Immigration Bill

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#151
you would think there would be a compromise somewhere. the republicans are still arguing amongst themselves on some issues. it just goes to show how far away these two sides are from getting along. right now bush's approval rating is 36% and the GOP senate is even lower. this keeps up we will have a democrat president and congress. it seems to me maybe things would run smoother if we have a republican president and democrat congress or opposite. maybe they would compromise more often.
 
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#152
Congress did not fair much better in the apporval ratings, what did they poll at, 30%?

I think most Americans are just fed up with every thing politically!

I know I am getting that way.....
 
#153
#153
that is very true empire, i'm that way myself. it seems like they all have there own agenda and it is not to make our country a better place. hopefully they will get there act together and get something accomplished, but it really looks dim right now.
 
#154
#154
Hey!

We agree on two things!

1.) Bob Taft is a terrible govenor.

2.) Politicians are a joke.

Simple solution to our political problem, get rid of career politicians!
 
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#155
How about we protest this way..........NONE OF US PAYS OUR TAXES!!!!.........(Now, this will hurt Sam a little bit, for maybe like 3 years, but it won't work unless over 80% of the population agrees to not pay their taxes in protest)






Of course, I'm j/k :bump3:
 
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(OrangeEmpire @ Apr 8 said:
Simple solution to our political problem, get rid of career politicians!
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Or get rid of Lobbyists.
 
#157
#157
i'm all for getting rid of the politicians, and not paying taxes. i think the man would come and take us away if we didn't pay.
 
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#158
in favor of getting rid of career politicians and lobbyists. About half of them are morally bankrupt.
 
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(GAVol @ Apr 9 said:
Lobbyists have a bad name, but they are absolutely necessary
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I may be way wrong here and teach me if I am GA but don't Lobbists basically make corrupt politicians? A politician gets elected and lobbyists pursue them with ''perks'' to sway voting their way on issues? Does'nt this system make politics an arena for special intrests to rule the nation economically? I can see how this is great for big business who can afford to schmooze senators and congress people, But does'nt this make things harder across the board for middle class...especially the lower middle class who live payday to payday? I can't see how their necessary.
 
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(GAVol @ Apr 9 said:
Lobbyists have a bad name, but they are absolutely necessary
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yes without lobbyist politicians might decide issues based on their relative merits, as opposed to who is sponsoring their campaigns.
 
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(GAVol @ Apr 9 said:
Lobbyists have a bad name, but they are absolutely necessary
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Is that why we need 65 lobbyists for every politician? Lobbyists are fine if you don't mind them and the big corporations writing your legislation and running your country.

Do you think that the NRA should write the gun legislation? Or oil companies writing energy bills..or how about pharmaceutical companies dealing with healthcare?

We don't have to get rid of all of them, but why not trim it down to 1 or 2 lobbyists per politician?
 
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(Orangewhiteblood @ Apr 9 said:
Is that why we need 65 lobbyists for every politician? Lobbyists are fine if you don't mind them and the big corporations writing your legislation and running your country.

Do you think that the NRA should write the gun legislation? Or oil companies writing energy bills..or how about pharmaceutical companies dealing with healthcare?

We don't have to get rid of all of them, but why not trim it down to 1 or 2 lobbyists per politician?
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I agree with your post, in whole. However, I believe that not a soul should be writing gun legislation. Reason for my belief?

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

I am not sure what 'shall not be infringed' means to you, but I sure as hell see that as are founders clearly stating that neither the federal nor local governments should be able to pass any legislation regarding firearms.
 
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(therealUT @ Apr 9 said:
I am not sure what 'shall not be infringed' means to you, but I sure as hell see that as are founders clearly stating that neither the federal nor local governments should be able to pass any legislation regarding firearms.
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When you really think about it, they shouldn't be writing or passing legislation on a lot of things, but they do anyway.
 
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(oklavol @ Apr 9 said:
yes without lobbyist politicians might decide issues based on their relative merits, as opposed to who is sponsoring their campaigns.
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Like I said, the big money lobbyists have a bad name, but there are a lot of good lobbyists that are essential to helping get people's voices heard. It's a free speech issue.
 
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(GAVol @ Apr 9 said:
Like I said, the big money lobbyists have a bad name, but there are a lot of good lobbyists that are essential to helping get people's voices heard. It's a free speech issue.
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Thats how it is with most things, a few bad apples ruin it for everyone else. Look what OWB did to the reputation of you mod's.
 
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(oklavol @ Apr 9 said:
Thats how it is with most things, a few bad apples ruin it for everyone else. Look what OWB did to the reputation of you mod's.
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No kidding . . . We've been trying to live down that decision for about a year now.
 
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(oklavol @ Apr 9 said:
Thats how it is with most things, a few bad apples ruin it for everyone else. Look what OWB did to the reputation of you mod's.
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Yep, and I have a ban button too little buddy. :gun:
 
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(GAVol @ Apr 9 said:
No kidding . . . We've been trying to live down that decision for about a year now.
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I'm sending 100 lobbyists to your house at 6 in the morning since you like them so much... :moon2:
 
#170
#170
Guys, here is a petition to sign in opposition to our "leaders" rewarding illegal aliens for breaking the law.

Congress knows that the majority of legal citizens oppose what they want to do.

Sign the petition and make sure they feel the pressure. It just started about 2 days ago.



petition
 
#171
#171
Or, don't sign the petition and continue to benefit from cheap labor in the U.S. along with greater tax revenue generated than the state and federal governments would receive from minimum wage workers doing the jobs...
 
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(therealUT @ Apr 9 said:
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
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I prefer this version:
 

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#173
I've stayed out of this argument, mainly because I can get pretty riled up discussing the whole issue, and I have better things to do. However, I thought I'd post some links that you all might find interesting.

Check out the Negative Population Growth website and their Proposed National Population Policy. They also have many position papers covering a wide range of topics. I would especially encourage you to read the one entitled A Vast Social Experiment: The Immigration Act of 1965 as it covers the historical events that have led us to where we are today. I'd also recommend reading Lindsey Grant's book Too Many People: The Case for Reversing Growth. You can find the entire text of the book at that link.
 
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(Big Orange Nation @ Apr 12 said:
LOL neandervol
the right to bear arms

i love it!!
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Yeah, me too. I ran across that about six months ago, and it still cracks me up everytime I look at it. It's actually from this t-shirt.
 
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