Indoor TV for outdoor area?

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On your original post, I can say from having boats there's no difference in the model radio/speaker/amp you would put in a car vs what you would put in a boat. The three differences in something for a boat is, it's labeled "marine", usually white, and is more expensive because of that "marine" label.

There's zero difference in specs otherwise.
That is patently false and misleading. Ever owned or maintained boats in a salt water (marine) environment or stored a boat in a constant moisture state like a marina slip? I have multiple times.
Don't know if you have just had good luck with regular audio equipment in boats before or what but just because you have put regular car stereos on your weekend ski boat doesn't make it true. I have had car stereo components on boats I own that don't see a lot of moisture do great and I have owned several boats in salt water environments or stored in wet slips at a lake that required marine grade electronics due the amount of moisture they are constantly in.

The "more expensive" is due to the fact that there are massive differences in marine electronics standards from water proof gaskets, IP6, IP7, or IP8 water resistance, internal component construction, face shields and remote controls, to internal components that are comprised non corrosive materials, to tinned wiring and coated circuit boards, full plating on connectors, NEMA type 4X junction boxes, etc....
Speakers (rubberized cones) and amps are the same thing requiring tinned (completely coated wiring and connectors) exposed metal or even the copper wiring in a boat.
FYI most are white due to use of UV stable polymers in the case construction but you can custom order colors.
Research JL audio equipment (which I have in 2 daily drivers, a classic chevelle with subs and amps, and two boats I run) and talk to their tech specialists to explain the differences to you or tear down a car amp and a marine amp like I have and the results will answer your incorrect assumptions.

To @allvol123 on your back porch not in your boathouse on the lake you will be fine with regular off the shelf stuff and the occasional mist, heavy dew, or fog. Keep out of direct sunlight both for viewing pleasure and longevity of the screen and you will get many years of service. You can even custom weld or glue a plastic shield "box" around the flat screen to reduce any glare if applicable.
EDIT @Orange_Vol1321 in re reading that statement it came off little more harsh than I intended Sorry bout that.
 
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Would recommend using gold plated HDMI connectors to prevent/reduce rust on the HDMI port. Also, you can order tv covers on Amazon. I ordered one two years ago and it has held up fine.
 
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Probably the most annoying thing about a TV on the porch -down here anyway- is that 2-3 week period starting in March when the godforsaken pollen starts dropping. I spend 10 minutes every day blowing off the porch and take a can of air and blow out the outlets and ports on the TV and wiping things off.
 
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Probably the most annoying thing about a TV on the porch -down here anyway- is that 2-3 week period starting in March when the godforsaken pollen starts dropping. I spend 10 minutes every day blowing off the porch and take a can of air and blow out the outlets and ports on the TV and wiping things off.
Was gonna say the only “issue” I’ve had with patio TV is wiping pollen off of it, the remote, and everything else.

We stuck the oldest TV we have outside and just plan on upgrading indoor TVs and rotating the oldest outside as they go out. Haven’t had any issues at all and I live in intense humidity.
 
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That is patently false and misleading. Ever owned or maintained boats in a salt water (marine) environment or stored a boat in a constant moisture state like a marina slip? I have multiple times.
Don't know if you have just had good luck with regular audio equipment in boats before or what but just because you have put regular car stereos on your weekend ski boat doesn't make it true. I have had car stereo components on boats I own that don't see a lot of moisture do great and I have owned several boats in salt water environments or stored in wet slips at a lake that required marine grade electronics due the amount of moisture they are constantly in.

The "more expensive" is due to the fact that there are massive differences in marine electronics standards from water proof gaskets, IP6, IP7, or IP8 water resistance, internal component construction, face shields and remote controls, to internal components that are comprised non corrosive materials, to tinned wiring and coated circuit boards, full plating on connectors, NEMA type 4X junction boxes, etc....
Speakers (rubberized cones) and amps are the same thing requiring tinned (completely coated wiring and connectors) exposed metal or even the copper wiring in a boat.
FYI most are white due to use of UV stable polymers in the case construction but you can custom order colors.
Research JL audio equipment (which I have in 2 daily drivers, a classic chevelle with subs and amps, and two boats I run) and talk to their tech specialists to explain the differences to you or tear down a car amp and a marine amp like I have and the results will answer your incorrect assumptions.

To @allvol123 on your back porch not in your boathouse on the lake you will be fine with regular off the shelf stuff and the occasional mist, heavy dew, or fog. Keep out of direct sunlight both for viewing pleasure and longevity of the screen and you will get many years of service. You can even custom weld or glue a plastic shield "box" around the flat screen to reduce any glare if applicable.
EDIT @Orange_Vol1321 in re reading that statement it came off little more harsh than I intended Sorry bout that.
I was always told that about Marine products and I have two friends that own audio stores. Obviously a salt water environment is a completely different situation.
 
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Was gonna say the only “issue” I’ve had with patio TV is wiping pollen off of it, the remote, and everything else.

We stuck the oldest TV we have outside and just plan on upgrading indoor TVs and rotating the oldest outside as they go out. Haven’t had any issues at all and I live in intense humidity.
I've got the remote along with a meat thermometer and a few other small things in a small Tupperware container just so I don't have to deal with exposing the small stuff.

Only thing I really did different outside is I used a boom mount rather than the typical bracket so I can swing the TV and change the viewing angle if I need to if I'm grilling off to the side or if the screen picks up glare.
 
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I've got the remote along with a meat thermometer and a few other small things in a small Tupperware container just so I don't have to deal with exposing the small stuff.

Only thing I really did different outside is I used a boom mount rather than the typical bracket so I can swing the TV and change the viewing angle if I need to if I'm grilling off to the side or if the screen picks up glare.
Smart on the Tupperware. I will be doing that.
unfamiliar with boom (maybe a brand?) but I used an elbow + swivel mount for the same reasons.

Also congrats OP and everyone else in here. Oddly great satisfaction in prepping meats, drinking and watching sports outdoors.
 
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Smart on the Tupperware. I will be doing that.
unfamiliar with boom (maybe a brand?) but I used an elbow + swivel mount for the same reasons.

Also congrats OP and everyone else in here. Oddly great satisfaction in prepping meats, drinking and watching sports outdoors.
I also pee off the porch if nobody is around. All kinds of things you can do out there.
 
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Smart on the Tupperware. I will be doing that.
unfamiliar with boom (maybe a brand?) but I used an elbow + swivel mount for the same reasons.

Also congrats OP and everyone else in here. Oddly great satisfaction in prepping meats, drinking and watching sports outdoors.

Man I am so stoked about this idea. I hope things get back to normal and I get college sports. Sounds fun for the family.

This pandemic at least made me realize how great my back porch was. It had become a catchall for lawn tools, half done projects, clutter etc. I cleaned it up and was like wow, this space is awesome. Gonna get 2 new ceiling fan, some outdoor furniture, small fridge, and a bada$$ tv. Please come back college football.
 
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What was your setup time and to get all your devices working on it. I've heard the devices running on 2.4 Ghz have a little trouble versus the devices running 5 Ghz not having issues.

It allows you to set it up initially through the app with a tablet or laptop. Once you complete that basic setup you can then login to the Orbi using your browser and going to Orbilogin.com. From there you have access to it's full range of features. Initial setup is 20 minute to an hour. I didn't have any issues connecting 2.4ghz or 5ghz devices.
 
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Man I am so stoked about this idea. I hope things get back to normal and I get college sports. Sounds fun for the family.

This pandemic at least made me realize how great my back porch was. It had become a catchall for lawn tools, half done projects, clutter etc. I cleaned it up and was like wow, this space is awesome. Gonna get 2 new ceiling fan, some outdoor furniture, small fridge, and a bada$$ tv. Please come back college football.

One thing I recommend is to mount your TV higher up - like what the bars do. That makes it easy to see and change directions if on a swivel mount. Also, it would be more difficult for a thief to steal it.
 
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I was always told that about Marine products and I have two friends that own audio stores. Obviously a salt water environment is a completely different situation.
Sorry just getting back around... I had been told that many years ago and I got tired of working on and replacing stuff in salt and non salt environments and researched myself. But I was told that by people who were “experts” at car stereo stuff... it may be semantics but what you said was there’s zero difference in specs and that applies equally to salt and non salt environments that there is a difference. Whether you need to spend the money or not for that difference is the question the op needs to answer on his outdoor use for an indoor product question. My answer was in his situation it’s probably not worth the money But there is a difference in product spec and cost between marine and non marine products Other than color.

I dont know what they (your friends) knew or thought they knew but they were incorrect. Will a great non marine stereo amp and sub perform fine on a Malibu ski boat that is on the water in summer, sunny days, for 10 hours then back home to a covered garage absolutely. You Don’t NEED marine components (and additional cost) for that boat in most cases but that same setup on a pontoon stored on a lift under an open boat house on the lake 9 months a year you can plan on replacing said equipment every couple of years and chasing electrical gremlins in wiring with cheap automotive wire, components and connections. People have to decide if the cost saving is worth it... I learned that lesson many years ago and any electrical stuff I have is marine grade cause I have a boat to fish, use and enjoy, not constantly work on. Btw one of my current boats is a 1973 mako 20cc with a 2016 Yamaha that I pulled the original Marine grade wiring from 43 years ago when I rewired and re powered the boat in 2015. That boat was in coastal N.C., ga, and Florida for 40 years before I brought it inland and that what marine grade junction boxes, connectors, gauges, and wiring does.
 

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