Inexcusable

#26
#26
oklavol said:
They overlooked a 1-9 AP team and weren't mentally ready to play. It happens, that falls on the coaching staff, so much basketball left to play, need to wait till the end of the season to evaluate the coaching.
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Disagree with your last statement. I'm not saying the decision as to whether CCM keeps his job should be made after 8 games, but I think you cam look at the collective body of work after 8 games and determine with a fair amount of certainty that their are some real deficiencies, especially pertaining to defensive coaching.

In your profession, does your boss wait until the end of the year to tell you that you were screwing up in March? No. So, its not unfair after 25% of the games have been played, to evaluate how his team has played to this point and stating what needs improvement.
 
#27
#27
alumvol08 said:
Yeah, you all are right. I'm the dumbass that gives up on a coach and team after 8 games. I guess now I'll just cry about how great we were when Bruce was here and ***** about the team 24/7.
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Roberta, we are sorry for criticizing your husband, I'm sure he will bounce back and get the job done. LOL jk
 
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#29
#29
sfmcfar said:
Weren't the guards 1 for 15? That's why we lost.
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I didn't independently confirm the stat, but I heard our inside guys were 3 for 3 in the second half.

If you're the coach watching this unfold, don't you call a timeout and demand that players start feeding it inside or they're sitting down?

What am I missing?
 
#30
#30
sfmcfar said:
Weren't the guards 1 for 15? That's PART OF THE REASON why we lost.
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FYP

Hard to blame the offense entirely though. It was good enough to win for 38+ minutes. We scored 70 points. With sound defense, 70 points should win most games.
 
#32
#32
This thread should be renamed to Kotex... geesh...

Seriously, we have a new coach, with players trying to play new roles, throw in several new comers and a team in which every single player is trying to find their role and this is what you get. Good games and bad, this is still my TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS!!! I will root for them win or lose, through sickness and in health!

GO VOLS!!! Enough with the negavols and pissing contests! Leave those in the football forums please and thank you.
 
#33
#33
knowthevols said:
Didn't say I had give up on the team. The problem with
you Pearl haters is that you condemn lying, but, can't abstain from it yourself.
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I'm sorry I confused *****ing and moaning about every single aspect of our current team with you not giving up. The only thing that you say on here between changing your depends is something negative about a coach, player, or the team.

I'm not a Pearl hater. I've always thought that he did a lot of positive things for the program, you'd be a moron not to think that. However, I do hate the position he put us in by his own actions and I also don't agree with people who now deify him since he's gone. Is he an awful coach? No. Is he one of the best coaches in the nation and will UT never be able to be competitive again without him? Hell no.
 
#35
#35
The simple fact is some of these players lacked the desire the play hard for the time they are out there. Getting out rebounded and poor defense is a lack of effort. Which in turn is a lack of coaching. CM said if you don't play defense you can't play for me. Well there's a lot of guys out there not playing defense Saturday and I didn't see a whole lot of sitting. I would like to see us go bigger and sit Tatum.
 
#36
#36
Velo Vol said:
You're welcome.

What's the point in visiting a forum if all you are going to say is GO VOLS!!!!!!?
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I didn't say, and I won't ask for unified opinions. Whining and pissing on eachother's shoes helps the forum in what way exactly? Unless you like musky, wet shoes I don't see the benefits on here.
 
#37
#37
I think an issue of gelling and playing team defense is the root of our problems. That, and only giving Kenny Hall minimal minutes. I'd rather go smaller and Have Yemi starting over Hall. Tatum hasn't been the issue IMO, he just hasn't been the answer either.
 
#38
#38
cncchris33 said:
You're starting to come around I see. Would you say our team defense has had anything to do with it, or do you still think we are "an above average defensive team"?
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Other than the Peay game, yes we have been an above average defensive team. Not my fault you can't see that.
 
#39
#39
zjcvols said:
Other than the Peay game, yes we have been an above average defensive team. Not my fault you can't see that.
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Funny. The last time you spouted off about our defensive laurels, it was the Oakland game you conceded as bad defense. I guess you just changed your mind about that one.

It's sorry that you can't concede that defense has cost us in every loss except Duke.
 
#40
#40
cncchris33 said:
Funny. The last time you spouted off about our defensive laurels, it was the Oakland game you conceded as bad defense. I guess you just changed your mind about that one.

It's pathetic that you don't concede that defense has cost us in every loss except Duke.
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And Oakland. I forgot. Just got home from work.

I won't, because it's not true. Did I say we are a great defensive team? No. I said above average. I have no idea why you think I'm making this defense out to be incredible.
 
#41
#41
Yankee_Vol said:
Im making the 2 1/2 drive Wednesday night. I'll be the one wearing orange. We knew this team wouldn't be great. A few close games and people's expectations went thru the roof. It'll work out in the end.
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I was going to make the 6 hour trip (have friends in Charleston) before I realized that I had an exam Thursday. Bleh. Hope you enjoy yourself and get to see a win!
 
#43
#43
zjcvols said:
And Oakland. I forgot. Just got home from work.

I won't, because it's not true. Did I say we are a great defensive team? No. I said above average. I have no idea why you think I'm making this defense out to be incredible.
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If its not true, please break down our losses and tell me why we lost and how defense was not the key issue. I tried doing the same and pointed out why defense was the key issue in another thread. You seemed to have no retort there.

Where I come from, above average means better than at least half your peers. This team is not better than half the SEC, the nation, or even half the state of Tennessee. The term "above average" was your terminology, not mine. Define it for me since I seem to have a warped perception of how you have somehow redefined the phrase.
 
#45
#45
cncchris33 said:
If its not true, please break down our losses and tell me why we lost and how defense was not the key issue. I tried doing the same and pointed out why defense was the key issue in another thread. You seemed to have no retort there.
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Pitt loss was all on the boards. Defense started out excellent, had some breakdowns late. But that wasn't the loss. We rebound, we win.
 
#46
#46
Velo Vol said:
We are last in the SEC in scoring defense.

- Overall Statistics
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Don't bring facts to this show. We are last in scoring defense, last in TO margin, next to last in FG% defense, next to last in 3 point FG% defense, 7th in defensive rebounding, 7th in blocks and 10th in steals.

Yet, that translates to the redefined definition of "above average".
 
#47
#47
Incipient said:
Pitt loss was all on the boards. Defense started out excellent, had some breakdowns late. But that wasn't the loss. We rebound, we win.
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Yes, rebounding on the defensive end and boxing out the opponent so that they don't get easy baskets under their own goal. Defensive rebounding is a phase of defense.
 
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#49
#49
Incipient said:
What do the tempo-free stats say? Scoring defense is hoops is meaningless.
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I wouldn't call it meaningless. Obviously it can be skewed according to tempo (teams that play a faster tempo exchange more opportunities to score with the other team). However, you and I both know, Tennessee is not an up-tempo team, so being last in the conference certainly suggests that we are giving up too many easy and/or uncontested baskets and that is only supported by the rankings in FG% and 3 point FG% defense.
 
#50
#50
cncchris33 said:
I wouldn't call it meaningless. Obviously it can be skewed according to tempo (teams that play a faster tempo exchange more opportunities to score with the other team). However, you and I both know, Tennessee is not an up-tempo team, so being last in the conference certainly suggests that we are giving up too many easy and/or uncontested baskets and that is only supported by the rankings in FG% and 3 point FG% defense.
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Yep. Freaking box out. Please.
 
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