Instead of "Vol for life"

#26
#26
Good point, but I learned this during the '90's when a UT loss made headlines.

I remember being in the Old City at BW3 (for those that remember that place) and UT just lost to Miss State in Starkville. The game was a noon kickoff and about 9PM a few players came in and were having a good time. Here I was still upset and here were some players kicking back.

In sports you have to have amnesia. You can't celebrate any win or fret any loss too much. You have to prepare for the next game.

That leads me to your point about it being years of stewing. UT fans are ultra sensitive to anything right now...good or bad. And those terms are relative given the state of the program. If UT was coming off a 10 win season with nice bowl win the complaints would be minimal in losing the RB coach.

Back in 1998, David Cutcliffe left UT's program for Ole Miss after the SECCG and before the Fiesta Bowl. Randy Sanders' 1st game as OC was the NC game. If that happened in this day and age this place would blow up. But UT was 12-0 at the time and the program was on it's best run in 50 years. When UT lined up against FSU, it looked like the UT team we were used to seeing whether it was Cutcliffe or Sanders calling plays.

Blow up wouldn't begin to describe what would happen today. Fire and brimstone, matress burning, lightbulb kicking, dogs and cats living together...

Gosh I miss the days that we could lose a great coord and not think anything of it.
 
#27
#27
I love the "fans" who say it means more to them than it does to the players. Look. The biggest investment a fan puts into this is buying a dang ticket and coming to the stadium. The players invest 3 to 5 years of their lives with more work and committment than most of you can ever imagine. They put in the work, they put in the worry, they put their health on the line, they actually do the work.

You? You only show up at the games and cheer if they do good and whine if they don't. Then, you go home and sulk or talk trash about something you have absolutely nothing to do with how it turns out. The players and coaches go back to work because they can actually do something about it. You can't.

Jay Graham was a great Volunteer but now he is a Seminole. This doesn't diminish his accomplishments at UT nor does it diminish who he is. He was a great player and he is becoming a great coach. I wish him well.
 
#28
#28
I love the "fans" who say it means more to them than it does to the players. Look. The biggest investment a fan puts into this is buying a dang ticket and coming to the stadium. The players invest 3 to 5 years of their lives with more work and committment than most of you can ever imagine. They put in the work, they put in the worry, they put their health on the line, they actually do the work.

You? You only show up at the games and cheer if they do good and whine if they don't. Then, you go home and sulk or talk trash about something you have absolutely nothing to do with how it turns out. The players and coaches go back to work because they can actually do something about it. You can't.

Jay Graham was a great Volunteer but now he is a Seminole. This doesn't diminish his accomplishments at UT nor does it diminish who he is. He was a great player and he is becoming a great coach. I wish him well.

Think they were talking about the VFL program...

As far as Coach Graham goes I agree.
 
#29
#29
Blow up wouldn't begin to describe what would happen today. Fire and brimstone, matress burning, lightbulb kicking, dogs and cats living together...

Gosh I miss the days that we could lose a great coord and not think anything of it.

I miss those days as well. Hopefully one day UT will get back there.

I love the "fans" who say it means more to them than it does to the players. Look. The biggest investment a fan puts into this is buying a dang ticket and coming to the stadium. The players invest 3 to 5 years of their lives with more work and committment than most of you can ever imagine. They put in the work, they put in the worry, they put their health on the line, they actually do the work.

You? You only show up at the games and cheer if they do good and whine if they don't. Then, you go home and sulk or talk trash about something you have absolutely nothing to do with how it turns out. The players and coaches go back to work because they can actually do something about it. You can't.

Jay Graham was a great Volunteer but now he is a Seminole. This doesn't diminish his accomplishments at UT nor does it diminish who he is. He was a great player and he is becoming a great coach. I wish him well.

I think that's the difference. The players and coaches have to prepare for the next game and the fans can't.
 
#35
#35
How about we stop throwing labels on people and then being upset when they don't live up to a label that we created?
 
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#36
#36
How about we stop throwing labels on people and then being upset when they don't live up to a label that we created?

Stop trying to make sense on here!!!! :loco:

Need you be reminded of the Gruden saga that had more people sporting Grud-ons and Groners on here that was all self-created? :crazy:
 
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#37
#37
Or perhaps fans that think former players should just automatically want to coach for their alma mater no matter what probably should just get over it.
I graduated from U.T. in 1972. I am not a coach. At no time in the last 40 years have I had the desire to work at U.T. If they had offered me a job at any time, I would have had zero interest. I do not understand why some think that ex-players should feel a desire to go to work there.
 
#38
#38
I graduated from U.T. in 1972. I am not a coach. At no time in the last 40 years have I had the desire to work at U.T. If they had offered me a job at any time, I would have had zero interest. I do not understand why some think that ex-players should feel a desire to go to work there.

I couldn't agree more. But unfortunately many people think the world revolves around them and their interests though. Graham and Martin obviously made decisions that they thought were best for them and their careers but so many on here think that because they played for UT that they now owe the rest of their lives to the school/team, no matter if it may put their future well-being in jeopardy. It sucks that we lost JG but this is absolutely ridiculous IMO.
 
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#39
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I graduated from U.T. in 1972. I am not a coach. At no time in the last 40 years have I had the desire to work at U.T. If they had offered me a job at any time, I would have had zero interest. I do not understand why some think that ex-players should feel a desire to go to work there.

3 words.... Apples and oranges.
 
#40
#40
How about we stop throwing labels on people and then being upset when they don't live up to a label that we created?

This is just a silly thread with posters having a little fun to lighten the mood. Not trying to label anyone.... at least not here 😁
 
#43
#43
Surely people remember that VFL was a Dooley invention. It's a relatively new invention. Prior to Dooley there was no such thing as a Vol for Life.
 
#46
#46
I love the "fans" who say it means more to them than it does to the players. Look. The biggest investment a fan puts into this is buying a dang ticket and coming to the stadium. The players invest 3 to 5 years of their lives with more work and committment than most of you can ever imagine. They put in the work, they put in the worry, they put their health on the line, they actually do the work.

You? You only show up at the games and cheer if they do good and whine if they don't. Then, you go home and sulk or talk trash about something you have absolutely nothing to do with how it turns out. The players and coaches go back to work because they can actually do something about it. You can't.

Jay Graham was a great Volunteer but now he is a Seminole. This doesn't diminish his accomplishments at UT nor does it diminish who he is. He was a great player and he is becoming a great coach. I wish him well.

Are you a groupie? How is he becoming a great coach?
 
#49
#49
Here is my take on JG or any other former player coach and what it means to be a VFL...If they can get a promotion to coordinator or head coach elsewhere they should go. If they can get a significant raise that we cant or dont match then I dont blame them for going. But if we offer to match the raise and there arent additional personal or family circumstances to consider then they are not loyal to UT. JG may have a valid reason we dont know but if he left for 40k that we offered to match and there arent other solid reasons, then he is not a VFL and scr3w him!
 
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