Interesting scenario for CFP

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Let’s assume that...

Bama beats Georgia
Texas beats Oklahoma
Northwestern beats Ohio State
UCF beats Memphis

Now this is unlikely, but if this happens, who do you think deserves the 4th playoff spot?
 
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I assume you have Clemson beating Pitt:

1. Clemson
2, Georgia
3. Notre Dame
4. Alabama

If, and only if, Clemson loses to Pitt, I could possibly see them putting UCF in the 4th spot. But given the injury to Milton, I think Clemson would still be in unless they somehow get absolutely destroyed.
 
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bamawriter said:
I assume you have Clemson beating Pitt:

1. Clemson
2, Georgia
3. Notre Dame
4. Alabama

If, and only if, Clemson loses to Pitt, I could possibly see them putting UCF in the 4th spot. But given the injury to Milton, I think Clemson would still be in unless they somehow get absolutely destroyed.
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He said Bama beats UGA
 
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jp1 said:
He said Bama beats UGA
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Dyslexic moment there.

I still think it's:

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Georgia

If Bama destroys UGA and UCF destroys Memphis, then maybe UCF slides in. But UCF would have to win by a minimum of 4 TDs.
 
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bamawriter said:
Dyslexic moment there.

I still think it's:

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Georgia

If Bama destroys UGA and UCF destroys Memphis, then maybe UCF slides in. But UCF would have to win by a minimum of 4 TDs.
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You think a 2 loss UGA team doesn't fall out?
 
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jp1 said:
You think a 2 loss UGA team doesn't fall out?
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If they lose a decently close game to Bama, I think they're still in. It would need to be by no more than 2 scores. I think it's asking a lot of the Committee to ignore the Milton injury unless UCF crushes Memphis. Who would be aching to see Bama against UCF with a back up QB?
 
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bamawriter said:
If they lose a decently close game to Bama, I think they're still in. It would need to be by no more than 2 scores. I think it's asking a lot of the Committee to ignore the Milton injury unless UCF crushes Memphis. Who would be aching to see Bama against UCF with a back up QB?
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Fair point.
 
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bamawriter said:
If they lose a decently close game to Bama, I think they're still in. It would need to be by no more than 2 scores. I think it's asking a lot of the Committee to ignore the Milton injury unless UCF crushes Memphis. Who would be aching to see Bama against UCF with a back up QB?
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True, but you guys are likely going to destroy whoever you play, so might as well throw a bone to Cinderella. I actually think more people would be interested in UCF/Alabama than an Alabama/UGA rematch.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
True, but you guys are likely going to destroy whoever you play, so might as well throw a bone to Cinderella. I actually think more people would be interested in UCF/Alabama than an Alabama/UGA rematch.
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I think if UGA is the first team to keep it close all year, then I think the rematch can be sold. If it's another 20+ point Bama win, then yeah, the Committee is probably left selling an obvious beatdown either way. Might as well give it to UCF at that point.
 
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It's up to the committee, but there is something riding on whether Georgia loses by 3 or 30. If Georgia loses to Bama, most people would not think they need to see who's better again, and I think the committee will take that view. If it's UCF (or Georgia) then that means the committee will have to omit 3 (that is, most) of the P5 conference champions. That might be tough to stomach. If Oklahoma/Ohio State both win, I think they will go with oklahoma.

If however your unlikely scenario occurs, then it's UCF all the way. No problem for them in that case.
 
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bamawriter said:
I think if UGA is the first team to keep it close all year, then I think the rematch can be sold. If it's another 20+ point Bama win, then yeah, the Committee is probably left selling an obvious beatdown either way. Might as well give it to UCF at that point.
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UCF is not going to make the CFP. Period. On SOS alone, UCF is where, down around #70? Sorry, but 11-0 with that SOS doesn't trump a one, or even two-loss team with an SOS in the top 25.

Still amazed that anyone could even remotely consider UCF as a legitimate CFP contender. Reminds me of BYU's lopsided (24-17) National Championship victory over a 6-5 Michigan team. What a joke.

Takes all kinds, I guess.
 
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bamawriter said:
If they lose a decently close game to Bama, I think they're still in. It would need to be by no more than 2 scores. I think it's asking a lot of the Committee to ignore the Milton injury unless UCF crushes Memphis. Who would be aching to see Bama against UCF with a back up QB?
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Lets be real here. UCF doesn't need in even if Milton wasn't hurt. Just quickly naming off my head Penn St., OSU, OK, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, UM, WV, etc. would beat UCF.

Something that bothers me is seeing ND in the playoff. It's a huge advantage for them not to play in a championship game. And I think even if Bama beats Georgia (as long as it's close) that Georgia should get NDs spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the committee tell TCU a few years back they couldn't put them in because they didn't play in a championship game?
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
UCF is not going to make the CFP. Period. On SOS alone, UCF is where, down around #70? Sorry, but 11-0 with that SOS doesn't trump a one, or even two-loss team with an SOS in the top 25.

Still amazed that anyone could even remotely consider UCF as a legitimate CFP contender. Reminds me of BYU's lopsided (24-17) National Championship victory over a 6-5 Michigan team. What a joke.

Takes all kinds, I guess.
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Hey, they're the 2017 National Champions. Their stadium says so.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Lets be real here. UCF doesn't need in even if Milton wasn't hurt. Just quickly naming off my head Penn St., OSU, OK, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, UM, WV, etc. would beat UCF.

Something that bothers me is seeing ND in the playoff. It's a huge advantage for them not to play in a championship game. And I think even if Bama beats Georgia (as long as it's close) that Georgia should get NDs spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the committee tell TCU a few years back they couldn't put them in because they didn't play in a championship game?
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With 130+ teams.....it’s impossible to have equality in scheduling.
Just saying
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Lets be real here. UCF doesn't need in even if Milton wasn't hurt. Just quickly naming off my head Penn St., OSU, OK, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, UM, WV, etc. would beat UCF.

Something that bothers me is seeing ND in the playoff. It's a huge advantage for them not to play in a championship game. And I think even if Bama beats Georgia (as long as it's close) that Georgia should get NDs spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the committee tell TCU a few years back they couldn't put them in because they didn't play in a championship game?
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That might be what they said, but the committee didn't put them in because they're TCU. As I've said many times before, if the Big 12 champ had been Texas or OU that year they would've been in. They just used that as justification. Alabama didn't play in the SECCG last year, and OSU didn't play in the Big 10 cg the year before. They both got in. Notre Dame has shown consistently that they're not afraid to play anybody. No way a 2 loss Georgia gets in over an undefeated ND
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
UCF is not going to make the CFP. Period. On SOS alone, UCF is where, down around #70? Sorry, but 11-0 with that SOS doesn't trump a one, or even two-loss team with an SOS in the top 25.

Still amazed that anyone could even remotely consider UCF as a legitimate CFP contender. Reminds me of BYU's lopsided (24-17) National Championship victory over a 6-5 Michigan team. What a joke.

Takes all kinds, I guess.
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The committee sent the message that UCF has no shot when they parked Michigan in front of them. If the OP’s scenario played out it would be between UGA and Michigan.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
That might be what they said, but the committee didn't put them in because they're TCU. As I've said many times before, if the Big 12 champ had been Texas or OU that year they would've been in. They just used that as justification. Alabama didn't play in the SECCG last year, and OSU didn't play in the Big 10 cg the year before. They both got in. Notre Dame has shown consistently that they're not afraid to play anybody. No way a 2 loss Georgia gets in over an undefeated ND
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"Because they're TCU?" Notre Dame hasn't played anybody but Michigan this year.
24 to 16 over Ball State??
19 to 14 over Pitt?
Meh. My point is if they played a Conference Championship there's a possibility they get beat. As it is they are getting one less game advantage which means rest, no injuries, and no possibility of a loss.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Lets be real here. UCF doesn't need in even if Milton wasn't hurt. Just quickly naming off my head Penn St., OSU, OK, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, UM, WV, etc. would beat UCF.

Something that bothers me is seeing ND in the playoff. It's a huge advantage for them not to play in a championship game. And I think even if Bama beats Georgia (as long as it's close) that Georgia should get NDs spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the committee tell TCU a few years back they couldn't put them in because they didn't play in a championship game?
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As much as I hate it, ND deserves a shot. It’s tough to run the table and they did schedule aggressively but it just so happened they hit a year when VT, FSU, and USC all suck and Stanford isn’t as good as they have been. Once they switched starting QBs they really took off and only had 1 truly close game from that point on as USC scored very late to make that a one score game. Don’t get me wrong, Clemson will beat them but they deserve a chance. However, there’s no question this has become the 4 most deserving teams and not the best 4 necessarily. Look at OU vs OSU. Ohio St is probably the better team but they are behind OU because of how badly they lost to Purdue. Ohio St is the better overall team I’d say though. Same thing with ND. One of the 4 best? Probably not. One of the most deserving? Definitely.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
"Because they're TCU?" Notre Dame hasn't played anybody but Michigan this year.
24 to 16 over Ball State??
19 to 14 over Pitt?
Meh. My point is if they played a Conference Championship there's a possibility they get beat. As it is they are getting one less game advantage which means rest, no injuries, and no possibility of a loss.
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The committee didn’t lock TCU out just because they didn’t play in a championship game. But Ohio St had that extra game and killed UW so it gave them an advantage with TCU not having a showcase game. ND not playing in a championship game is no different than letting Bama and Ohio St in without winning their division.
 
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