Interesting scenario for CFP

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hUTch2002 said:
The committee didn’t lock TCU out just because they didn’t play in a championship game. But Ohio St had that extra game and killed UW so it gave them an advantage with TCU not having a showcase game. ND not playing in a championship game is no different than letting Bama and Ohio St in without winning their division.
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Sure it is. Bama and OSU got in those years for their SOC and beating people 55 to 10. It's also why a two loss team can get in before a one loss Notre Dame. They are undefeated so lets see how they do against a Bama or Clemson. Since Notre Dame doesn't want to join a conference the NCAA should make them play in one and rotate them each year. SEC one year, Big10 one year, Pac12 one year and so on.
 
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I have no idea what algorithm they use to get these numbers, but according to these UCF has the best chance at getting into the the 4th spot.
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
"Because they're TCU?" Notre Dame hasn't played anybody but Michigan this year.
24 to 16 over Ball State??
19 to 14 over Pitt?
Meh. My point is if they played a Conference Championship there's a possibility they get beat. As it is they are getting one less game advantage which means rest, no injuries, and no possibility of a loss.
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It's not their fault that Florida State and USC are both down. You don't put teams like that on the schedule because you want an easy schedule. BTW, who exactly has Clemson beaten this year?
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
It's not their fault that Florida State and USC are both down. You don't put teams like that on the schedule because you want an easy schedule. BTW, who exactly has Clemson beaten this year?
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I can give you that Texas A&M is their best game but Clemson has also been in the playoff discussion the laat 4+ years.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
I can give you that Texas A&M is their best game but Clemson has also been in the playoff discussion the laat 4+ years.
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Agreed. ND is the second most storied program in CFB history. Second only to Alabama (that just made me gag). They've beaten 2 teams that are playing in conference championship games. An undefeated ND will always get the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Sure it is. Bama and OSU got in those years for their SOC and beating people 55 to 10. It's also why a two loss team can get in before a one loss Notre Dame. They are undefeated so lets see how they do against a Bama or Clemson. Since Notre Dame doesn't want to join a conference the NCAA should make them play in one and rotate them each year. SEC one year, Big10 one year, Pac12 one year and so on.
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They’re an ACC team basically. It would be cool to rotate them but due to scheduling won’t happen. I don’t see an undefeated ND ever being left out. But if you get a 1-loss ND against a 2-loss conference champion then it is possible ND would be out in the cold. Like you said, that’s when the SOS really comes into play.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Lets be real here. UCF doesn't need in even if Milton wasn't hurt. Just quickly naming off my head Penn St., OSU, OK, LSU, Texas A&M, Florida, UM, WV, etc. would beat UCF.

Something that bothers me is seeing ND in the playoff. It's a huge advantage for them not to play in a championship game. And I think even if Bama beats Georgia (as long as it's close) that Georgia should get NDs spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the committee tell TCU a few years back they couldn't put them in because they didn't play in a championship game?
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Part of the blame goes to the ACC. They agreed to let them be a part time/sort of member in football and a full member in every other sport. They get the benefit of playing some ACC teams and getting dibs on an ACC slot in the bowls if they need to take it, but they don't have to do a full ACC schedule or worry about the ACC Championship.

The ACC should have told them to be full members in football or take a hike.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
They’re an ACC team basically. It would be cool to rotate them but due to scheduling won’t happen. I don’t see an undefeated ND ever being left out. But if you get a 1-loss ND against a 2-loss conference champion then it is possible ND would be out in the cold. Like you said, that’s when the SOS really comes into play.
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Their SOS holds up against just about anybody. They always play 4 or 5 ACC teams, one or two from the Big 10, plus USC and Stanford from the PAC 12. 10 of their 12 games are against P5 teams.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Their SOS holds up against just about anybody. They always play 4 or 5 ACC teams, one or two from the Big 10, plus USC and Stanford from the PAC 12. 10 of their 12 games are against P5 teams.
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It seems like they are a little lower than normal for them this year but through no fault of their own. They scheduled well and some of the opponents just flopped this year.
 
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I think they need to put UCF up against #5. Although their loudest fans will claim its different without their qb.. bah!

I still think ND and Clemson are overrated.
 
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shotgun83 said:
I think they need to put UCF up against #5. Although their loudest fans will claim its different without their qb.. bah!

I still think ND and Clemson are overrated.
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Exactly who do you think is behind Clemson that is better than Clemson? Maybe Georgia. Maybe. That’s it. Kind of hard to be considered overrated when you are one of the 3 best teams in the country. I don’t think being one spot higher, if they even are, constitutes being overrated. Being #3 like ND when UGA, OU, Ohio St, LSU, and maybe another couple teams are better is closer.
 
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I'm for UCF and ND getting in. Yes they didn't play in a P5 conf but UGA, OU and tOSU each have a loss and get the benefit of name on the jersey.

OU and tOSU have had their share of squeak buys this year. If UGA beats Bama it's a no brainer. If they lose and UCF looks good I say put them in.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Exactly who do you think is behind Clemson that is better than Clemson? Maybe Georgia. Maybe. That’s it. Kind of hard to be considered overrated when you are one of the 3 best teams in the country. I don’t think being one spot higher, if they even are, constitutes being overrated. Being #3 like ND when UGA, OU, Ohio St, LSU, and maybe another couple teams are better is closer.
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They play no one and they were saved by a ridiculous call in the A&M game that was so befuddling even slowest of individuals could recognize it was wrong. You can easily swap them with anyone ranked 2 - 7
Just my opinion 👍
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Exactly who do you think is behind Clemson that is better than Clemson? Maybe Georgia. Maybe. That’s it. Kind of hard to be considered overrated when you are one of the 3 best teams in the country. I don’t think being one spot higher, if they even are, constitutes being overrated. Being #3 like ND when UGA, OU, Ohio St, LSU, and maybe another couple teams are better is closer.
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OU seriously? Their defense is easier to score on than a hooker.
 
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volinbham said:
I'm for UCF and ND getting in. Yes they didn't play in a P5 conf but UGA, OU and tOSU each have a loss and get the benefit of name on the jersey.

OU and tOSU have had their share of squeak buys this year. If UGA beats Bama it's a no brainer. If they lose and UCF looks good I say put them in.
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UCF couldn't win even if Milton wasn't hurt. They definitely can't now. But I'm with ya. Put them in and against Bama first game. Maybe they will finally drop their narrative. Lol
 
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shotgun83 said:
They play no one and they were saved by a ridiculous call in the A&M game that was so befuddling even slowest of individuals could recognize it was wrong. You can easily swap them with anyone ranked 2 - 7
Just my opinion 👍
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Fair enough. Because of how they’ve beaten the bad teams they’ve played most games I definitely think they are top 3. I swear it seems like the teams at the top just don’t play as well as top teams of the past. I think it’s the Bama effect. They’ve been so good so long that others don’t look as good. Anyway, I don’t agree with you on Clemson but I get your perspective. I do agree on ND. I’d take UCF with Milton to beat ND, maybe even without Milton but we will have to see how they play today.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
OU seriously? Their defense is easier to score on than a hooker.
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I’d still take them to outscore ND but you are certainly right about their D. What offsets it is their O is historically good. ND is solid but they just aren’t quite as good as the other top 10 teams to me. I’d take UCF with Milton over ND. Maybe I’m wrong. They have a chance to prove it.
 
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That's why I want to see UCF get to play whomever gets ranked 5th. I also think they can give Michigan and OU a good game
 
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volinbham said:
I'm for UCF and ND getting in. Yes they didn't play in a P5 conf but UGA, OU and tOSU each have a loss and get the benefit of name on the jersey.

OU and tOSU have had their share of squeak buys this year. If UGA beats Bama it's a no brainer. If they lose and UCF looks good I say put them in.
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If OU, Ohio St, and UGA all lose and UCF looks good then I say give them a shot over a 2 loss team that didn’t win their conference. Why not at that point? I definitely wouldn’t want UGA to get another shot even if they probably would be the 4th best team. Their chance is today. I kind of feel the same way about Bama really but they would only have the 1 loss so it’s a little different. 1 loss Bama vs undefeated UCF is better than 2 loss UGA over undefeated UCF. It doesn’t matter though. No way NW beats OSU as much as I want them to do so.
 
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bamawriter said:
Dyslexic moment there.

I still think it's:

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Georgia

If Bama destroys UGA and UCF destroys Memphis, then maybe UCF slides in. But UCF would have to win by a minimum of 4 TDs.
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UCF gets zero love. They wouldn't get in no matter what. That's why the 'championship' is a farce.


Just give Tua the Hypeman, and Bama the trophy
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yes; I've watched them play through a weak ass conference and their best win is Cincinnati.

Whoopty freakin doo! You want another participation trophy?
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Then let them get blown out and you win your argument. It's like the P5 are afraid.
 
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