Is Derek Reese a wing or Post player?

[bleedingTNorange]

Reese has signed already, so there won't be any of that. Reese supposedly is a very good outside shooter and I am willing to bet CCM likes that attribute about him and was the reason for the offer.

Also, he is not 6-8 or 6-9. That is, unless he has grown recently. He is listed at 6-7, which usually translates to 6-6 or 6-7 with shoes on.

a very good outside shooter automatically allows me to disregard the comparison to woolridge thank god. i have been happy with CCM ability to evaluate talent so far so im going to have faith in him for sure. wing is also a position of need next year obviously so it cant hurt too much. curious to see if chievous is able to do anything. we'll have richardson, mcrae, chievous, reese, and edwards all fighting for minutes at the 3 should be interesting.

 

[germanicus]

He hit 40% on 3s last year, but he only averaged 3 a game, so that's a bit of disconnect. And, he's still only averaging around 10 ppg for his high school team this year. Been overshadowed by a couple of other guys on that team, with the breakout guy being a 6-7 F who signed with Tulane early.

Tennessee recruited him as a wing, but he's playing mostly inside this year.

He is a wing. Think Renaldo with a better jumper.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

He hit 40% on 3s last year, but he only averaged 3 a game, so that's a bit of disconnect. And, he's still only averaging around 10 ppg for his high school team this year. Been overshadowed by a couple of other guys on that team, with the breakout guy being a 6-7 F who signed with Tulane early.

Tennessee recruited him as a wing, but he's playing mostly inside this year.

nothing i have heard from anyone that seems to know this kids game has made me feel good about him. i mean this guys best offer besides us is murray state and is filled with teams like florida gulf, florida atlantic, jacksonville, youngstown i mean then you see committed tennessee. do you think this was a guy that ccm just jumped the gun on thinking that maybe he was gonna have to recruit less talented guys at first?

 

[DaDuRkEr]

Murray State can evaluate talent as well. I think CCM will surprise some people when Reese plays a decent role on this team is last couple years here

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Murray State can evaluate talent as well. I think CCM will surprise some people when Reese plays a decent role on this team is last couple years here

im just seeing an overcrowding problem on the wings. mcrae, richardson, chievous, edwards, reese. we are in on some top flight sg and sf in the '13 class as well, so i just wonder if all these guys finish their careers here.

 

[cncchris33]

im just seeing an overcrowding problem on the wings. mcrae, richardson, chievous, edwards, reese. we are in on some top flight sg and sf in the '13 class as well, so i just wonder if all these guys finish their careers here.

I agree about the over-crowding at the wing, but five posts up, you claimed wing as a position of need next year??? It can't be both.

I think we should have only signed one of Edwards or Reese and found another PG, but perhaps Martin knows something re: next years' roster (i.e. perhaps some potential/probable transfers). Perhaps he believes Reese can help down the road while Edwards is immediate help with experience at the JC level.

 

[cncchris33]

a very good outside shooter automatically allows me to disregard the comparison to woolridge thank god. i have been happy with CCM ability to evaluate talent so far so im going to have faith in him for sure. wing is also a position of need next year obviously so it cant hurt too much. curious to see if chievous is able to do anything. we'll have richardson, mcrae, chievous, reese, and edwards all fighting for minutes at the 3 should be interesting.

To be fair, I did say RW with a better jump shot. The comparison was mostly related to his body type and the fact that Reese seems to be more comfortable on the wing, much like RW his first three seasons.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I agree about the over-crowding at the wing, but five posts up, you claimed wing as a position of need next year??? It can't be both.

I think we should have only signed one of Edwards or Reese and found another PG, but perhaps Martin knows something re: next years' roster (i.e. perhaps some potential/probable transfers). Perhaps he believes Reese can help down the road while Edwards is immediate help with experience at the JC level.

what im saing with the over crowding, im referencing we have a bunch of guys who i feel are all average, or maybe 1 or 2 above average. i feel like we have 3 or 4 good back up wings but not any that really excite me starting. so thats why im saying were trying to get a few kids in the 13' class who are wings and so we'll have what 6 or 7 wings on scholarship? thats just too many. when i said wing is a position of need next year i mean that, but i mean a good starting caliber wing and i really dont know who thatd be.

im with you and thats why ive been wondering about reese maybe being asked to look elsewhere. i feel like edwards could come in and contribute, and having experience is always a positive too.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

To be fair, I did say RW with a better jump shot. The comparison was mostly related to his body type and the fact that Reese seems to be more comfortable on the wing, much like RW his first three seasons.

his body type would be lovely RW has a protypical NBA body, just doesnt have the game to go with it unfortunately.

 

[cncchris33]

what im saing with the over crowding, im referencing we have a bunch of guys who i feel are all average, or maybe 1 or 2 above average. i feel like we have 3 or 4 good back up wings but not any that really excite me starting. so thats why im saying were trying to get a few kids in the 13' class who are wings and so we'll have what 6 or 7 wings on scholarship? thats just too many. when i said wing is a position of need next year i mean that, but i mean a good starting caliber wing and i really dont know who thatd be.

im with you and thats why ive been wondering about reese maybe being asked to look elsewhere. i feel like edwards could come in and contribute, and having experience is always a positive too.

Gotcha. Like I said earlier though, I believe Reese has already signed, so asking him to look around isn't really an option.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Gotcha. Like I said earlier though, I believe Reese has already signed, so asking him to look around isn't really an option.

Yea I know just wishing he hadnt I guess maybe. Maybe chievous will leave too, but then again in sure ccm wants to see what he'll bring.

 

[MannyD]

Yea I know just wishing he hadnt I guess maybe. Maybe chievous will leave too, but then again in sure ccm wants to see what he'll bring.

I don't see Chievous leaving. I think Cuonzo likes him and thinks he'll be able to contribute. Another person I talked to said something that makes sense: There seems to be something more to their relationship than the normal coach & player/recruit dynamic. Cuonzo obviously has ties to the Chicago area and NBA. He and Derek Chievous may be friends, and Cuonz's taking Quinton under his wing in a mentoring type role. I don't know if he'll be able to contribute, but in responses to the questions he's been asked in regards to Chievous, Cuonzo has indicated that he thinks he'll be a good player for us.

 

[jknox33]

He hit 40% on 3s last year, but he only averaged 3 a game, so that's a bit of disconnect. And, he's still only averaging around 10 ppg for his high school team this year. Been overshadowed by a couple of other guys on that team, with the breakout guy being a 6-7 F who signed with Tulane early.

Tennessee recruited him as a wing, but he's playing mostly inside this year.

I believe you are correct in regards to him playing post for his HS team. He's going to be more of a small forward that can hopefully be bulked up to be able to guard a 4. I also heard he was close to 6'8 now. In AAU he played wing and apparently shot the lights out, but is one of the tallest players on his HS team and is playing down low. Also, if Counzo recruited him, you know he'll have a defensive mentality. He evaluated him for a while so Counzo knows exactly what he is getting. Every team needs consistent outside threats. Don't think he's in the mold of a star, but he will be a solid role player before its all said and done IMO.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I don't see Chievous leaving. I think Cuonzo likes him and thinks he'll be able to contribute. Another person I talked to said something that makes sense: There seems to be something more to their relationship than the normal coach & player/recruit dynamic. Cuonzo obviously has ties to the Chicago area and NBA. He and Derek Chievous may be friends, and Cuonz's taking Quinton under his wing in a mentoring type role. I don't know if he'll be able to contribute, but in responses to the questions he's been asked in regards to Chievous, Cuonzo has indicated that he thinks he'll be a good player for us.

Yea just like with Wes I think CCM really likes those guys and don't envision them leaving unless they are wanting to leave. I hope chievous can contribute, I'm curious to see how he plays to say the least we could use a break out player at the wing next year, maybe one of these guys will surprise us.

 

[Shaun1985]

The In state talent is absolutely loaded. We are in on a lot of '14 guys and and a couple of '15 guys already.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

The In state talent is absolutely loaded. We are in on a lot of '14 guys and and a couple of '15 guys already.

This is why I hope Memphis tanks and pastner gets the boot cause we can step in there and steal some big time guys.

 

[Shaun1985]

I agree. But with the talent Pastner has in his backyard, an Amish 10 year old that's never seen a basketball could coach that team into the tournament with that pathetic conference schedule.

Also, Pelphrey never really bothered me but Anderson might sneak across the river and take a couple too.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I agree. But with the talent Pastner has in his backyard, an Amish 10 year old that's never seen a basketball could coach that team into the tournament with that pathetic conference schedule.

Also, Pelphrey never really bothered me but Anderson might sneak across the river and take a couple too.

And yet pastner has been less than stellar in his 3 years there. If they miss the dance another time or two it could be the end of that one.

 

[jknox33]

And yet pastner has been less than stellar in his 3 years there. If they miss the dance another time or two it could be the end of that one.

Honestly, we need Pastner there and we need to have him continue his mediocre ways. The less confidence the city of Memphis has in him, the less (not by much) these recruits are swayed to play for him. As much as many on here dislike Memphis, many coaches would love to coach there with the facilities, fanbase and, of course, the talent in their back yard. If and when Memphis comes looking for another coach, you better believe they'll hire someone who can recruit over someone with superior x's and o's. Pastner can recruit, but his on the court results hopefully hinder him consistently beating us out for recruits there.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Honestly, we need Pastner there and we need to have him continue his mediocre ways. The less confidence the city of Memphis has in him, the less (not by much) these recruits are swayed to play for him. As much as many on here dislike Memphis, many coaches would love to coach there with the facilities, fanbase and, of course, the talent in their back yard. If and when Memphis comes looking for another coach, you better believe they'll hire someone who can recruit over someone with superior x's and o's. Pastner can recruit, but his on the court results hopefully hinder him consistently beating us out for recruits there.

JMO but I don't see them bringing in a big time coach that gets recruits excited and makes them want to stay. Pastner was given the head coaching job as a no head coach experience hire. That's not exactly a huge hire but Memphis knew he could damage recruiting having been on the staff. I think Memphis takes a huge step back recruiting wise is pastner is let go JMO though. They no longer have the ad there that brought in the guys like cal.

 

[jknox33]

True, but Memphis is what it is...a hotbed of talent. It's not that Memphis will steal away significant power conference head coaches, but they will look at the up and coming guys at other mid-majors that have a knack for recruiting. My point being is that Memphis wants to keep their hometown boys at Memphis and it will take a recruiter to keep them from coming to the likes of us or the power programs like KU, UK, UNC or Duke. IMO they value a recruiter's mentality over an x's and o's mentality.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

True, but Memphis is what it is...a hotbed of talent. It's not that Memphis will steal away significant power conference head coaches, but they will look at the up and coming guys at other mid-majors that have a knack for recruiting. My point being is that Memphis wants to keep their hometown boys at Memphis and it will take a recruiter to keep them from coming to the likes of us or the power programs like KU, UK, UNC or Duke. IMO they value a recruiter's mentality over an x's and o's mentality.

There was a time Memphis boys didn't always go to memphis. A few lowing season and a new coach or not and it will get easier and easier to pull some kids out of there.