Is Donde Plowman the NCAA Kryptonite?

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#76
NCAA better buckle up - fatcats days of pushing around athletic departments are over.



Excellent read!! I ain't worried anymore about this ncaa crapola. Tom Mars....The Lawyer Opponents DREAD to see. (and do not want to face in Court!)
 
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in '75, they were paranoid about plagiarism. All English papers were graded, shown to you in class, and then collected. You couldn't keep them. Of course no computers back then. One other point, and then you all can get back to the topic of HOW BAD THE NCAA SUCKS, Engineers had been bounced out of English so many times, there was a rule where Freshmen English composition classes couldn't be graded with an "F". If you got "NC" that was the equivalent (No Credit) and it wouldn't go against your GPA. Anyway, I eventually passed my two English classes and got back into the fun stuff (math). If an English professor doesn't "like" you, you are at their mercy on grading. If a math teacher doesn't like you, it doesn't matter - they don't have that power over you as long as you work the problems.
How to get an A in english in the early '70s: Ed Chenette was my first English professor (1970). In his opening dialogue to the class, he announced: "I didn't know there were so many different color panties until ladies started wearing mini-skirts. If you ladies wearing mini-skirts will move up to the front row, your chances of getting an A will improve." My how things have changed. I busted my butt in that class and got a B. I think all the girls got an A.
 
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How to get an A in english in the early '70s: Ed Chenette was my first English professor (1970). In his opening dialogue to the class, he announced: "I didn't know there were so many different color panties until ladies started wearing mini-skirts. If you ladies wearing mini-skirts will move up to the front row, your chances of getting an A will improve." My how things have changed. I busted my butt in that class and got a B. I think all the girls got an A.
Wow. That’s interesting. Glad I didnt have to resort purple fruit of the looms!!
 
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#81
Off topic warning here (but relevant to the University of Tennessee in a roundabout way).

This will be lost on many, and I apologize and will try to enlighten those that didn't get a taste of this in their youth as students at UT. Taking English, there was this thing called the Harbrace Handbook. Always reminded me of that joke about the joke tellers convention where everyone knew every joke in the world and they saved time by just telling the number of the joke and everyone would laugh. One guys turn and he threw out "Joke 143" and nobody laughed. When he asked "why is nobody laughing"? The punchline: "You told it wrong". OK bad corny.

But Harbrace was like that in English. When your paper is graded, where you screwed up is just a code with no explanation. (like a joke number). My Achille's; heel was always "Superfluous Commas" (Commas were in Chapter 13 - I think it was a 13e for superfluous commas but it's been a minute) , and by golly the post that Unconditional Surrender is referring too put me in PTSD from UT English, Fall Quarter, 1975. Would be interesting to see the post he's referring to "coded up". LOL
I really wanted to be an English major, but I already spoke the language and this pushed me into Engineering instead.

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By the way, John C. Hodges, who wrote the handbook ( and who the undergraduate library of UT is named after), created this "monster work" and it has been adopted as the "go to" book by many schools and is the standard. If interested, more details in this link: Hodges, John Cunyus - Volopedia

My Dad was at UT in the '30s and he too had PTSD from this grading system. We were out fishing one day and he went on a diatribe about these grading codes. When fishing, sometimes you run out of things to talk about.
I was at UTK mid 90s, but I can still remember Freshman English.. it was rough..lol.. we had a professor from South Africa and he was brilliant and would gut your papers, but you also could write a dang good paper when you left the class.. MLA handbook…APA formatting 😂
 
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The NCAA has chosen the form of their destructor... and it ain't the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man.
 
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They picked on UNC? The heels got away with fake classes for athletes with no penalty
Exactly. Don't forget 'Cuse. And does anyone really believe that had UT been at the center of the cheating scandal that the NCAA would have stepped aside and allowed the SEC to slap Heupel's wrist with a 4 game punishment after cheating their way to a natty? Especially since they're trying to bundle Tony V's issue with Ahuna into this present episode? No way in hades. They would have gotten as big a bite of the apple as humanly possible. When's the last time we saw the NCAA snooping around any of the elites in any sport? It's never those guys that get things leaked to ESPN or SI. They hoard 5 stars but never, ever get an eye cast their way. They're above suspicion and reproach. It's never bottom feeders either. It's teams like UT that are high value targets who might threaten the established order that get the attention, the leaks and the perpetual threat of bowl bans, sanctions and punishments. Hell, Nico plays flag football and takes a flight and he's targeted to be declared ineligible for UT. Pearl lies about a damned hamburger and BBQ and he's got to pay. Let him roll over to Auburn and it's fine and dandy. Bet if Nico decided to pull up stakes and transfer to bama or OSU, he'd instantly be the golden boy and the presumptive heistman winner next year. If the rules are concise and clear....if the rules are equally applied and enforced, I got no problems, but this is completely corrupt and morally wrong.
 
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Exactly. Don't forget 'Cuse. And does anyone really believe that had UT been at the center of the cheating scandal that the NCAA would have stepped aside and allowed the SEC to slap Heupel's wrist with a 4 game punishment after cheating their way to a natty? Especially since they're trying to bundle Tony V's issue with Ahuna into this present episode? No way in hades. They would have gotten as big a bite of the apple as humanly possible. When's the last time we saw the NCAA snooping around any of the elites in any sport? It's never those guys that get things leaked to ESPN or SI. They hoard 5 stars but never, ever get an eye cast their way. They're above suspicion and reproach. It's never bottom feeders either. It's teams like UT that are high value targets who might threaten the established order that get the attention, the leaks and the perpetual threat of bowl bans, sanctions and punishments. Hell, Nico plays flag football and takes a flight and he's targeted to be declared ineligible for UT. Pearl lies about a damned hamburger and BBQ and he's got to pay. Let him roll over to Auburn and it's fine and dandy. Bet if Nico decided to pull up stakes and transfer to bama or OSU, he'd instantly be the golden boy and the presumptive heistman winner next year. If the rules are concise and clear....if the rules are equally applied and enforced, I got no problems, but this is completely corrupt and morally wrong.
LSU was supposedly in trouble in multiple programs over many years.. and they told the NCAA to go kick rocks every time 😂 it really does suck when you comply and they still have a laser focus on your program
 
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