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Is it true that just because a player meets NCAA admission standards they may not be allowed into the University of Tennessee because its standards are higher than what the NCAA mandates? If that answer is yes, what about SEC standards as well? Ive heard things but nothing concrete. The Orlando Brown thing with Oklahoma made me wonder.:search:
 
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Nocleats said:
Is it true that just because a player meets NCAA admission standards they may not be allowed into the University of Tennessee because its standards are higher than what the NCAA mandates? If that answer is yes, what about SEC standards as well? Ive heard things but nothing concrete. The Orlando Brown thing with Oklahoma made me wonder.:search:
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Yes. Hence all the talk about working with UTAD to promote a "level playing field" over the past 5 or more seasons.

Just because the LOI is signed does not guarantee enrollment.

Zeus may end up at either a prep school or JUCO.
 
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I want to say this happened before but can't remember who. Someone Kiffin or Dooley tried to get in maybe?
 
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ajvol01 said:
Yes. Hence all the talk about working with UTAD to promote a "level playing field" over the past 5 or more seasons.

Just because the LOI is signed does not guarantee enrollment.

Zeus may end up at either a prep school or JUCO.
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Is this a Jimmy Cheek thing?
 
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So my question now is, why? Seems like Haslam could fix this quickly
 
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UT isn't an ivy league school. Continuing eligibility GPA requirements vary from school to school , 1.8 - 2.0 is typical. Juco players now must have a 2.5 in transferable subjects, incoming frosh at 4yr schools must have a 2.3.
The ncaa has legislated a double standard. :question:
 
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orangeluvr said:
UT isn't an ivy league school. Continuing eligibility GPA requirements vary from school to school , 1.8 - 2.0 is typical. Juco players now must have a 2.5 in transferable subjects, incoming frosh at 4yr schools must have a 2.3.
The ncaa has legislated a double standard. :question:
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here is an ESPN article from 2009 discussing schools that allow "special admissions" for students on athletic scholarships

Report: Admissions exemptions benefit athletes at top football schools, according to AP review - ESPN

Tennessee is 1 of 7 schools that does not allow for special admissions

Air Force
Connecticut
Kansas State
Purdue
Tennessee
Texas
Virginia

Six schools besides Texas reported no use of special admissions on campus: Air Force, Connecticut, Kansas State, Purdue, Tennessee and Virginia.
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ajvol01 said:
The requirements changed after Travis Henry was at UT, but before Fulmer left.
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With that, some can begin to see why Coach Fulmer began to have difficulties (the deck was stacked against him) and why UT has such difficulty attracting coaches with a proven record. Don't get me wrong, I am very impressed with Coach Jones, but I think UT is very fortunate that he is willing to take on the challenge.
 
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Nocleats said:
Is it true that just because a player meets NCAA admission standards they may not be allowed into the University of Tennessee because its standards are higher than what the NCAA mandates? If that answer is yes, what about SEC standards as well? Ive heard things but nothing concrete. The Orlando Brown thing with Oklahoma made me wonder.:search:
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It is true, although in the 5 years since the change in policy was made, only 4 prospects have been declined admission. 2 in football, one in basketball and one in men's track.

The administration isn't trying to turn UT into the Ivy League. It has more to do with them making sure that athletes we let in can stay eligible. If a guy is going to fail out right away, despite all the help, they don;t want him in.

Denying the kids that were denied wasn't something that was done lightly.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
It is true, although in the 5 years since the change in policy was made, only 4 prospects have been declined admission. 2 in football, one in basketball and one in men's track.

The administration isn't trying to turn UT into the Ivy League. It has more to do with them making sure that athletes we let in can stay eligible. If a guy is going to fail out right away, despite all the help, they don;t want him in.

Denying the kids that were denied wasn't something that was done lightly.
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Sound logic, thanks for sharing.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
It is true, although in the 5 years since the change in policy was made, only 4 prospects have been declined admission. 2 in football, one in basketball and one in men's track.

The administration isn't trying to turn UT into the Ivy League. It has more to do with them making sure that athletes we let in can stay eligible. If a guy is going to fail out right away, despite all the help, they don;t want him in.

Denying the kids that were denied wasn't something that was done lightly.
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My response to this would be if these numbers are true, how many others were never offered to begin with and did they end up at rival schools where Tennessee had to compete against them. If they can enter Oklahoma, LSU, Miss St, Auburn , Clemson etc. they should be allowed into Tenn as well.
 
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where have you been the past couple years? why do you think we have kids that cant get into UT and then sign somewhere else to play?
 
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Nocleats said:
So my question now is, why? Seems like Haslam could fix this quickly
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Hate to be "that guy", but there is nothing to 'fix' here. The University is working on becoming one of the top 25 public institutions in the US, having people admitted that can't complete student requirements is bad for the university and bad for the other students. I love Zeus's play, but if he's not ready academically, then perhaps he needs to go JUCO and get some good grades. I repeat, there is nothing broken here and nothing Haslam needs to fix.

They are student-Atheletes, note the "student" part first.
 
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Brianchevy said:
Hate to be "that guy", but there is nothing to 'fix' here. The University is working on becoming one of the top 25 public institutions in the US, having people admitted that can't complete student requirements is bad for the university and bad for the other students. I love Zeus's play, but if he's not ready academically, then perhaps he needs to go JUCO and get some good grades. I repeat, there is nothing broken here and nothing Haslam needs to fix.

They are student-Atheletes, note the "student" part first.
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Yep, what he said. It's supposed to be the University of Tennessee not the Vols NFL feeder team.
 
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MedicT said:
With that, some can begin to see why Coach Fulmer began to have difficulties (the deck was stacked against him) and why UT has such difficulty attracting coaches with a proven record. Don't get me wrong, I am very impressed with Coach Jones, but I think UT is very fortunate that he is willing to take on the challenge.
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I think it's interesting how u skipped from Fulmer to CBJ as if there weren't 2 other coaches that had to deal with this. 2 coaches willing to take it on. 1 ran away quick and the other that was bashed and considered to be a "bad recruiter".

I know I'm going to get bashed by the usual folks, but this kind of stuff I wish people would take into consideration.
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Saw a news report a few weeks back. Said they'd done an independent investigation. Found that a good number of college football players didn't even read as well as a 5th grader.
 
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Study and get good grades

Education system has been lowered enough

It's not like UT is asking them to have a 4.0 to enter
 
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So,
7-6 in 2010
6-7 in 2011
5-7 in 2012
5-7 in 2013
and the new admission standards have been in effect for 5 years now. Not saying it is the reason, but if your competition isn't doing it, just saying
 
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