Is it worth the cost.......NO

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Fine Vol

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#1
Hey in Iraq we have killed Sadam and brought freedom to many Iraq people. We have freed there people from evil men and countless other great things....I agree!

O by the way what is the TAB an that?

3380 American lives and rising
2 Australian
148 Brits
13 Bulg.
6 Dane
2 Dutch
32 Italians
19 Poles and countless more:blink:
 
#2
#2
Hey in Iraq we have killed Sadam and brought freedom to many Iraq people. We have freed there people from evil men and countless other great things....I agree!

O by the way what is the TAB an that?

3380 American lives and rising
2 Australian
148 Brits
13 Bulg.
6 Dane
2 Dutch
32 Italians
19 Poles and countless more:blink:

How many terrorists? :ermm:
 
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#3
Hey in Iraq we have killed Sadam and brought freedom to many Iraq people. We have freed there people from evil men and countless other great things....I agree!

O by the way what is the TAB an that?

3380 American lives and rising
2 Australian
148 Brits
13 Bulg.
6 Dane
2 Dutch
32 Italians
19 Poles and countless more:blink:

yeah, using your logic (and others who bring this up) WWII was a resounding failure and should have been stopped long before the Normandy Invasion.

n April and May 1944, the Allied air forces lost nearly 12,000 men and over 2,000 aircraft in operations which paved the way for D-Day.

Total Allied casualties on D-Day are estimated at 10,000, including 2500 dead. British casualties on D-Day have been estimated at approximately 2700. The Canadians lost 946 casualties. The US forces lost 6603 men. Note that the casualty figures for smaller units do not always add up to equal these overall figures exactly, however (this simply reflects the problems of obtaining accurate casualty statistics).

Casualties on the British beaches were roughly 1000 on Gold Beach and the same number on Sword Beach. The remainder of the British losses were amongst the airborne troops: some 600 were killed or wounded, and 600 more were missing; 100 glider pilots also became casualties. The losses of 3rd Canadian Division at Juno Beach have been given as 340 killed, 574 wounded and 47 taken prisoner.

The breakdown of US casualties was 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach.

The total German casualties on D-Day are not known, but are estimated as being between 4000 and 9000 men.

Naval losses for June 1944 included 24 warships and 35 merchantmen or auxiliaries sunk, and a further 120 vessels damaged.

Over 425,000 Allied and German troops were killed, wounded or went missing during the Battle of Normandy. This figure includes over 209,000 Allied casualties, with nearly 37,000 dead amongst the ground forces and a further 16,714 deaths amongst the Allied air forces. Of the Allied casualties, 83,045 were from 21st Army Group (British, Canadian and Polish ground forces), 125,847 from the US ground forces. The losses of the German forces during the Battle of Normandy can only be estimated. Roughly 200,000 German troops were killed or wounded. The Allies also captured 200,000 prisoners of war (not included in the 425,000 total, above). During the fighting around the Falaise Pocket (August 1944) alone, the Germans suffered losses of around 90,000, including prisoners.

Today, twenty-seven war cemeteries hold the remains of over 110,000 dead from both sides: 77,866 German, 9386 American, 17,769 British, 5002 Canadian and 650 Poles.

Between 15,000 and 20,000 French civilians were killed, mainly as a result of Allied bombing. Thousands more fled their homes to escape the fighting.
 
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EASY, we had stock piled entirely to many bullets and needed a good reason to get rid of them. :thumbsup: The Germans :whistling:
The proliferation of nuclear knowledge and capability makes Federal Gov'ts sponsoring terrorism as dangerous to the US citizenry today as Germany was in 1940.
 
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yeah, using your logic (and others who bring this up) WWII was a resounding failure and should have been stopped long before the Normandy Invasion.

Please don't compare the Iraq conflict with WWII. You are really showing your ignorance. We went to Europe to lead an assault on Nazi Germany, who was in the middle of taking over a whole continent....Europe. Saddam Hussein, while certainly a murdering tyrant, wasn't even close to being the threat to the US and its allies like Hitler was. He didn't even have the capabilities to mount an air strike on anyone outside the middle east. somebody asked how many terrorists have been killed.Dumb question....utterly stupid.......more terrorists have surfaced since our invasion. The country will never be stable again. Yes, there is a freedom that exists for many that didn't exist four years ago. There is also much more danger for many more since 2003 in Iraq due to the civil war that has been created by the fall of Saddam.

Bush has shown his incompetence over and over again throughout this war. He has ignored everyone from his Dad and some of his Dad's closest advisors (all who forgot more than he will ever know) to our own military leaders. He has lost the support of the UK.

Don't ever be so stupid as to think we were ever defending our country by going to Iraq. The best thing W can do is shut up and listen and admit he is in over his head. He will certainly gain back some respect for admitting he was wrong. He will go down as one of the worst presidents in history...nothing can change that now, but the idiot is so worried about his legacy that he can't see the forest for the trees
 
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Please don't compare the Iraq conflict with WWII. You are really showing your ignorance. We went to Europe to lead an assault on Nazi Germany, who was in the middle of taking over a whole continent....Europe. Saddam Hussein, while certainly a murdering tyrant, wasn't even close to being the threat to the US and its allies like Hitler was. He didn't even have the capabilities to mount an air strike on anyone outside the middle east. somebody asked how many terrorists have been killed.Dumb question....utterly stupid.......more terrorists have surfaced since our invasion. The country will never be stable again. Yes, there is a freedom that exists for many that didn't exist four years ago. There is also much more danger for many more since 2003 in Iraq due to the civil war that has been created by the fall of Saddam.

Bush has shown his incompetence over and over again throughout this war. He has ignored everyone from his Dad and some of his Dad's closest advisors (all who forgot more than he will ever know) to our own military leaders. He has lost the support of the UK.

Don't ever be so stupid as to think we were ever defending our country by going to Iraq. The best thing W can do is shut up and listen and admit he is in over his head. He will certainly gain back some respect for admitting he was wrong. He will go down as one of the worst presidents in history...nothing can change that now, but the idiot is so worried about his legacy that he can't see the forest for the trees
Well put:salute: :thumbsup:
 
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wow, some noob called me ignorant and stupid in the same post.

:dance2:

although I suppose both you and fine vol thought Bill Clinton's illegal war against Slobodan Milosivic was justified. I'll stop comparing WWII to Iraq if liberals stop comparing Bush/Cheney to Hitler.
 
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wow, some noob called me ignorant and stupid in the same post.

:dance2:

although I suppose both you and fine vol thought Bill Clinton's illegal war against Slobodan Milosivic was justified. I'll stop comparing WWII to Iraq if liberals stop comparing Bush/Cheney to Hitler.
I wont compare bush to Hitler, I just dont like him. You can be Republican and still see Bush is a bad Pres. Being liberal has nothing to do with it. :peace2:
 
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#14
wow, some noob called me ignorant and stupid in the same post.

:dance2:

although I suppose both you and fine vol thought Bill Clinton's illegal war against Slobodan Milosivic was justified. I'll stop comparing WWII to Iraq if liberals stop comparing Bush/Cheney to Hitler.


Same republican rhetoric. why would you even bring Clinton up? Only the very far left compare Bush/Cheney to Hitler. this isn't about comebacks and whose party is right or wrong it is about the mess W has created with his "stay the course" BS.

You can compare WWII to Iraq all you want. I don't care how stupid you look. You should though. I don't care how stupid some of the far left are for making the Hitler comparison.

EVery time someone says something factual and correct about the high levels of incompetence in the oval office, some of the far right start talking about Clinton. who by the way, is about 100 times more competent than W. He had his flaws but he is so much more intelligent and 100 times more knowledgeable on the issues than W. He got some things wrong like all presidents, but the truth is, almost every single republican congressman would rather have him in the oval office than W. Face the facts
 
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I'll stop comparing WWII to Iraq if liberals stop comparing Bush/Cheney to Hitler.

I have never made that comparison and don't even see them to be similar in any way. Hitler was a lot brighter than W.
 
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#17
Hey in Iraq we have killed Sadam and brought freedom to many Iraq people. We have freed there people from evil men and countless other great things....I agree!

O by the way what is the TAB an that?

3380 American lives and rising
2 Australian
148 Brits
13 Bulg.
6 Dane
2 Dutch
32 Italians
19 Poles and countless more:blink:

sure it is. look to our fearless loser in washington, he will tell you all is well.:whistling:
 
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Please don't compare the Iraq conflict with WWII. You are really showing your ignorance. We went to Europe to lead an assault on Nazi Germany, who was in the middle of taking over a whole continent....Europe. Saddam Hussein, while certainly a murdering tyrant, wasn't even close to being the threat to the US and its allies like Hitler was. He didn't even have the capabilities to mount an air strike on anyone outside the middle east. somebody asked how many terrorists have been killed.Dumb question....utterly stupid.......more terrorists have surfaced since our invasion. The country will never be stable again. Yes, there is a freedom that exists for many that didn't exist four years ago. There is also much more danger for many more since 2003 in Iraq due to the civil war that has been created by the fall of Saddam.

Bush has shown his incompetence over and over again throughout this war. He has ignored everyone from his Dad and some of his Dad's closest advisors (all who forgot more than he will ever know) to our own military leaders. He has lost the support of the UK.

Don't ever be so stupid as to think we were ever defending our country by going to Iraq. The best thing W can do is shut up and listen and admit he is in over his head. He will certainly gain back some respect for admitting he was wrong. He will go down as one of the worst presidents in history...nothing can change that now, but the idiot is so worried about his legacy that he can't see the forest for the trees


Feel better?

:thumbsup:
 
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yeah, using your logic (and others who bring this up) WWII was a resounding failure and should have been stopped long before the Normandy Invasion.

the not-so-subtle difference is that, in WWII, we saw a very real and legitimate threat to the peace and way of life of free nations...with Iraq, we saw a government (ours) rush to war before any genuine threat could be verified, not to mention doing so on the premise of "pre-emptive" agression, something America was never known for and now monumentally regrets, by and large.
 
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Same republican rhetoric. why would you even bring Clinton up? Only the very far left compare Bush/Cheney to Hitler. this isn't about comebacks and whose party is right or wrong it is about the mess W has created with his "stay the course" BS.

You can compare WWII to Iraq all you want. I don't care how stupid you look. You should though. I don't care how stupid some of the far left are for making the Hitler comparison.

EVery time someone says something factual and correct about the high levels of incompetence in the oval office, some of the far right start talking about Clinton. who by the way, is about 100 times more competent than W. He had his flaws but he is so much more intelligent and 100 times more knowledgeable on the issues than W. He got some things wrong like all presidents, but the truth is, almost every single republican congressman would rather have him in the oval office than W. Face the facts

wow, and you once called me ignorant and stupid and a republican.
 

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