Is the SECW just a whole lot better than the SECE??

#54
#54
LSU and Auburn make the West Better. both of those teams are better than any team in the East. JMO. that's right now of course, since GA, TN and FL get chances at both of them it could be evened out by the end of the season....but just from what i've seen, those two teams are on another level...the kind of level UT and FL were on in the 90's.

the balance has shifted imo to the west. and if Bama gets better, which you know they will, it's just a matter of time, you'll have a conistent 3 way race, just like there is in the East.
 
#56
#56
LSU and Auburn make the West Better. both of those teams are better than any team in the East.
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See, I don't know where this mind set comes from. Auburn and LSU have started out against much worse opponents than the top 3 East teams, which, of course, skews the stats.
Take this into consideration.
Here's the West.
Auburn's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 19-27 last year. They've played 1 bowl team from the previous year, LSU. On a side note, keep scheduling teams like 1-10 Buffalo and I'll keep tellin you why you won't be playing for the NC.
LSU's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 20-25 last year. They've played 1 bowl team from the previous year, Auburn.
Now, on to the East.
Florida's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 23-24 last year (yeah, that's partly TN's bad :hmm: ).They've played 2 bowl teams from the previous year (Southern Miss, UCF) and a TN team that's better than both of those bowl teams.
Georgia's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 25-22 last year. They've played 2 bowl teams from the previous year (albeit, they stink this year), SC and Colorado.
TN's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 25-21 last year. They've played 2 bowl teams from the previous year (not to mention both of these teams are on most peoples lists as NC contenders), Cal and FL.
Do people think the East can't hang 40+ points against teams like UL-Lafayette, Arizona or Tulane? GA's defensive stats are around the same as LSU's. I just don't see where there is such a big difference. I've heard people say Auburn and LSU may be #'s 1 and 2 in the country. I agree that FL and Auburn are top 5 material, but LSU at 9 and TN at 16? That's just nuts.
 
#58
#58
VolTSX23 said:
But here in the next 4-5 weeks we will now exactly wheter the SECE or the SECW is better as UF plays Auburn, LSU, and Bama and UT plays Bama, LSU, and Ark.
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Ya beat me to it... we'll all get to find out where the LSU, Auburn, Florida, and UT's of the world stand in the coming months.

In the mean time... I would say that Auburn and LSU are one and two, followed by UF, UT, and UGA. Maybe put Arkansas and Alabama slightly ahead of UK and Vandy with the Mississippi schools clearly at the bottom.

Pretty balanced, I suppose.
 
#59
#59
SWS22 said:
Arkansas is the 3rd best team in the sec west not alabama. Alabama has struggled with a weak schedule. Plus they barely beat Vandebilt, Hawaii and lost to Arkansas over the weekend. They did beat some horrible out of conference team.
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Alabama was a kicker away from beating Arkansas.

Vanderbilt played Arkansas closer than they did Alabama, if you're going to use that comparison.

I wouldn't say there's much of a difference at all in Arkansas and Alabama. They beat eahc other up to a 1 point difference and beat Vanderbilt by 2 and 3 respectively.
 
#60
#60
tidwell said:
Alabama was a kicker away from beating Arkansas.

Vanderbilt played Arkansas closer than they did Alabama, if you're going to use that comparison.

I wouldn't say there's much of a difference at all in Arkansas and Alabama. They beat eahc other up to a 1 point difference and beat Vanderbilt by 2 and 3 respectively.
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I'm glad you said "kicker". Had he made any of 4 makeable kicks they would have won.
 
#61
#61
salutethehill said:
See, I don't know where this mind set comes from. Auburn and LSU have started out against much worse opponents than the top 3 East teams, which, of course, skews the stats.
Take this into consideration.
Here's the West.
Auburn's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 19-27 last year. They've played 1 bowl team from the previous year, LSU. On a side note, keep scheduling teams like 1-10 Buffalo and I'll keep tellin you why you won't be playing for the NC.
LSU's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 20-25 last year. They've played 1 bowl team from the previous year, Auburn.
Now, on to the East.
Florida's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 23-24 last year (yeah, that's partly TN's bad :hmm: ).They've played 2 bowl teams from the previous year (Southern Miss, UCF) and a TN team that's better than both of those bowl teams.
Georgia's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 25-22 last year. They've played 2 bowl teams from the previous year (albeit, they stink this year), SC and Colorado.
TN's first 4 opponents combined for a W/L record of 25-21 last year. They've played 2 bowl teams from the previous year (not to mention both of these teams are on most peoples lists as NC contenders), Cal and FL.
Do people think the East can't hang 40+ points against teams like UL-Lafayette, Arizona or Tulane? GA's defensive stats are around the same as LSU's. I just don't see where there is such a big difference. I've heard people say Auburn and LSU may be #'s 1 and 2 in the country. I agree that FL and Auburn are top 5 material, but LSU at 9 and TN at 16? That's just nuts.
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First, let me commend you on your break down of the opponents each team has played. nice job.

And it's fairly convincing i might add.

but when i give LSU, Auburn, UF, TN the "eyeball" test, i see two teams, LSU and Auburn, that are playing better football.

I look at Florida and i see potential. they have skill on offense, but they still don't have the identity of a truly powerful offensive team. they have a good defense up front, but TN and UK showed they have a weakness in the secondary. they struggle in the kicking game, and they are prone to making some stupid penalties and if not for one of our own stupid penalties, an Chris Leak INT could have sealed their fate. UF is a good football team, don't get me wrong.

I look at TN and i see a much improved team on offense, at least a the qb and WR positions, but i also see a team that can't take over a game up front on either side of the ball. I also see a team that gives up too much yardage in kick off and punt coverage. I see a team that can't run the ball effectively, consistently. I see a team that loses the T.O.P., and i see a team that is really thin on Defense.

Neither LSU or Auburn are perfect, not saying that, but just in watching all 4 teams play, the product i've seen from LSU and Auburn looks better than what i've seen from TN, UGA or UF.

it will, as has already been stated, play out in the end, but right now, today, this is how i see it.
 
#62
#62
rwemyss said:
I'm glad you said "kicker". Had he made any of 4 makeable kicks they would have won.
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Had he made the FG in the first OT they would have won. Had he made any of the other kicks they would have had a better chance to win but no guarantee. :good!:
 
#66
#66
Lexvol said:
It proved that Auburn at their worst is still at least one touchdown better than SC at their best.
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But, does that mean anything? SC is probably the 4th best team in the East. Lucky for this thread, we have an entire schedule of SEC games in the next 2 months to settle this debate. Florida plays Alabama, LSU, and Auburn in the next three weeks. Georgia and Auburn match up late-season. Tennessee awaits Alabama and a sure-to-be heated matchup with LSU.

My gut says that Auburn and LSU are teams to fear, but the SEC-E has three that should qualify, and four if Spurrier can work his magic.
 
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