Is this holding?

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KTrain said:
It’s according to the score and if any points need to be shaved. Penalties are tools to be used to control the betting lines.
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In all fairness to my previous comments, the Keyton catch toward the end of the game was ruled a catch to insure the spread stayed intact. I told my wife during the review the refs were consulting Vegas on their headsets.
 
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GiveHim6InSC said:
I was skeptical until this year. I’m fully on board now
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I really don't think their out to get UT, I mean if the game is playing out the way the money is leveraged they just call it straight up. One ref that can call holding on the Oline or/ignore it on any play and One ref that can call PI or ignore it on the D on any pass play can control and guide the score. I think most of the time its called straight up because the guys setting the lines & doing the spreads are really good. The refs are trying to do their best and miss some from time to time but penalties or used or ignored when the spread is not what the Big money says it should be. Just need 1 or 2 refs to be players, not the whole crew millions of dollars involved in these P5 games. Always follow the money, still fun to watch these games. I never was a wrestling fan but everyone knows that 100% fixed but they still sellout arenas.
 
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I know this answer won’t be popular but … I don’t see holding. It appears, to me at least, that the Kentucky lineman has his arms extended in front of his body and not outside his shoulders which I believe is perfectly legal. The picture of Tyler Baron last week was certainly holding as I understand it and should have been called. The other picture shown just appears to be a collision of multiple big bodies with no clear evidence of holding IMO. That said, I do believe that Tennessee is not be treated fairly this year and I sure would like to know WHY.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
In all fairness to my previous comments, the Keyton catch toward the end of the game was ruled a catch to insure the spread stayed intact. I told my wife during the review the refs were consulting Vegas on their headsets.
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Are you talking about the review that they initiated 5 seconds into the next play?
 
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Officiating in the SEC is near an all time low IMO. However we're not alone. I watched the Oklahoma/Kansas game yesterday and it was just as bad. The SEC and NCAA are making enough money to have trained professional officials.
 
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Daniel_Lincolns_Foot said:
Also looks like hands to the face. At least from this angle.
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This was my first thought when I looked at the OP. What are the rules and definitions for illegal hands to the face for offensive linemen in the NCAA?

Anybody know? (My schedule today will delay research til late tonight.)
 
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BruisedOrange said:
This was my first thought when I looked at the OP. What are the rules and definitions for illegal hands to the face for offensive linemen in the NCAA?

Anybody know? (My schedule today will delay research til late tonight.)
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I’d only heard it called in NFL games as “hands to the face” in particular, but the rule still exists in college. But I think it may just be designated as a facemask? Not sure.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Officiating in the SEC is near an all time low IMO. However we're not alone. I watched the Oklahoma/Kansas game yesterday and it was just as bad. The SEC and NCAA are making enough money to have trained professional officials.
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This.

I don't think officials are nearly skilled enough to make strategically specific bad calls. That would be like (and appear like) someone skilled with a hammer being asked to reprogram a computer.

What I suspect is going on with the officiating--and against the Vols, possibly--is something broad and general, comparable to umpires narrowing the called strike zone to increase hitting to enhance fan interest, or widening the strike zone in a game that's been promoted as a "pitcher's duel."

I think the lack of holding calls could be a general approach to enhance the passing game and offense, and to produce more close games that hold viewers.

Tennessee's new offense, and especially combined now with an improved defensive pass rush, threatens to create more blowouts that only Tennessee fans would be watching by the 4th quarter. That could be enough for the league office to let it be known that, for the good of the SEC('s coffers) "Tennessee's conference games need to be closer."

I've also wondered what would happen to the entire NCAA football TV product if Heupel's offense became the trend and spread to a majority of college teams. It becomes a different game, in relation to time and continuity--which changes the advertising equation--which means you're messing with the goose that lays the golden eggs that get EVERYONE in the college football business paid.

I've wondered if Tennessee's success last season scared the powers-that-be, and they're trying to squelch the system's success this season while they research whether this new style of football is a threat, or if it can be used to increase revenues.

When you follow the money, also be reminded that RISK MANAGEMENT is job One for making and investing money. It's hard to say how many entities saw last season's Vols as a risk to be managed. But hammer-wielding referees could be used to "nudge" against certain aspects of it, while it's still being studied by accountants and TV programmers.
 
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The last holding call called on the opposing team was against TAM and there was only one called in that game.

The RT for A&M took Pearce to the ground and that’s the last one I can remember.
 
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