Is Utah State really that good???

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thebjd said:
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great catch my B! LOL

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Tennesseeduke
 
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615vols said:
Yeah but those past teams don't matter. They replace a large part of their lines like we do. At wr, they don't really look too impressive. Starting qb and RB both coming back from serious injuries, this will actually be first game back for them.
Secondary looks to be a weakness for them. Apparently having some center to qb exchange issues.
First game of year, in neyland at night in front of 100,000 + .

Over the course of the past 5 years, Utah St. has played one OCC game, on the road, against big time competition in big time atmospheres.

2009: 19 pt.dog on the road in College Station and lost 38-30
2010: 34 pt. dog on the road in Norman and lost 31-24. (The following week OU hammered #17 FSU, 47-17).
2011: 23 pt. dog on the road @ Auburn and lost 42-38.
2012: 14 pt. dog on the road in Madison & lost 16-14.
2013: 6 pt. dog on the road @ The Coliseum and lost 17-14 to the Trojans.

I do not know what they have this year but they are better then you think.
Vols win by at least 10.
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Looks to me like they lost all those games!

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KBVol said:
You have no idea what you're talking about. He got the overwhelming majority of his carries, if not all of them, running with UTs first team vs other teams' first team defenses. He wasn't a freakin JV Runningback or only getting mop up duty during blowouts. They were quality carries and he was virtually interchangeable with our "starter" Neal. I think a majority of posters would've wanted him as the "starter" last year.
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I have posted Lane's stats... :). Back on track
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/cfb/players.asp?id=203402
 
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owenfieldreams said:
Over the course of the past 5 years, Utah St. has played one OCC game, on the road, against big time competition in big time atmospheres.

2009: 19 pt.dog on the road in College Station and lost 38-30
2010: 34 pt. dog on the road in Norman and lost 31-24. (The following week OU hammered #17 FSU, 47-17).
2011: 23 pt. dog on the road @ Auburn and lost 42-38.
2012: 14 pt. dog on the road in Madison & lost 16-14.
2013: 6 pt. dog on the road @ The Coliseum and lost 17-14 to the Trojans.

I do not know what they have this year but they are better then you think.
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This year they are in the 2nd year of a new coach.

They have lost most of the significant contributors from the teams you listed. They have Keeton and a couple of big LB's that are getting some NFL attention.

They lost their top two WR's from last year after having lost their top 4 from the year before. Their top returning WR had some legal trouble over the summer... maybe one of their other leading skill players too. Even with those guys, losing that much production over two years will hurt them. And remember, the guy who built them into a winner is gone.

The lost their top rusher from last year but apparently get a good RB back from injury. They dispute over how many starters were lost (6 or 7) but what is undeniable is that they lost 7 of their top 11 tacklers... which included 4 DB's in that top 11. Their returning DB's had about 130 tackles total including mop up and ST's. The 4 mentioned that they lost combined for 225. They lost 2 or 3 on the DL.

It would be impossible to quite say that they won't be as good... but like the Vols... they'll definitely be "different" than the past few years.
 
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I don't think anyone would predict a Vol loss in this one but contrary to observations herein, they have played in big time environments, on the road, & consistently acquitted themselves quite well.

My assumption is that they changed personnel in each of the past 5 years so while they may be less experienced this year than in the recent past, they will be competitive.
 
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I still believe HUMIDITY will be our 12th man. Over the years I have seen many mountain and west coast teams wilt in the humidity of Tennessee in September
 
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owenfieldreams said:
I don't think anyone would predict a Vol loss in this one but contrary to observations herein, they have played in big time environments, on the road, & consistently acquitted themselves quite well.

My assumption is that they changed personnel in each of the past 5 years so while they may be less experienced this year than in the recent past, they will be competitive.
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IMHO, you would be right except for one match up. Their smallish, inexperienced DB's aren't likely to hold up well to UT's athleticism at WR. In fact, UT's receivers at all positions should have a significant athletic advantage over their back 7. I believe that is the factor that takes this game from a close one to a 17+ pt Vol victory.

I'm thinking something like 35-17.
 
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gogators13 said:
I'm not sure but Vegas knows what they are doing... Utah St started as a 4.5 favorite. Tn is now a 7 point favorite. Sounds good but TN has a home field advantage. Vegas isn't giving the Vols a walk in the park.

I keep hearing about UTs RBs but so far they haven't proved anything on the college level.
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Dumb troll alert!
 
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sameolvol said:
Dumb troll alert!
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No,.. Just facts... Vegas has it close. I predicted the Vols by 10 in another post. The Vols are young with new lines and first game out of the gates. I think Vegas is taken those facts into consideration.
 
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I really liked their previous coach Gary Andersen. I had really hoped we'd hire him. They were very solid defensively when he was there. Glad we aren't playing him tbh. I think their team is headed down while we are headed up and that's not even taking into account that under Butch we've played our best football at home. Should be a coming out party for the Vols.
 
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norrislakevol said:
I mean come on......They have lost more players than we have. They also have a new offensive line...are their new O-linemen better than ours? I think not. They are green at receiver and not even nearly as talented as us there. No comparison at RB...we are much better. On defense they are quite green in the secondary. We have more talent and experience there. Not sure about the front 7, but we are most certainly bigger, stronger, and faster there as well. Sooooo they have a better QB? Is that it? This is what determines that they will keep it so close with us? A QB that is coming off of a major injury to boot.
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A few things to consider. They went 9-5 last year. If we played their schedule, I think we would have won every game they won last year, and we would also have beaten Utah, who they lost to, for 10 wins. We played 5 teams in the top 9 as of the end of year rankings (beat one, SCe), and 6 in the top 25. They played only one top 25 (USC) who they did lose a close game with, 17-14.
I think they will be fired up and keep it close, possibly even a small lead at the half, but we will settle down and take control in the second half, taking advantage of their young secondary. Go Vols.
 
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I've said it in another thread but i'll say it again. USU has only won their season opener once in the past 12 years. One time, call it bad luck or whatever but thats a pretty crazy stat thats gotta bode well for the vols. And i only went back to 2002 so they could have actually lost more.
 
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gogators13 said:
I'm not sure but Vegas knows what they are doing... Utah St started as a 4.5 favorite. Tn is now a 7 point favorite. Sounds good but TN has a home field advantage. Vegas isn't giving the Vols a walk in the park.

I keep hearing about UTs RBs but so far they haven't proved anything on the college level.
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Lane is averaging over 5 yards a carry at the college level
 
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This sounds the same when people were worried about Western Kentucky. We saw how that turned out.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
You really think there's going to be a full throated Third Saturday in November level Vol crowd for Utah State? If they score first you'll be able to hear the farts of the guy in the upper deck who asked for extra beans in his Petros.
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I actually am expecting a big turnout for the opener. With the curiosity and excitement of the "legacy" class and the majority of fanbase being full Butch, Neyland should be close to if not completely full. Utah State is going to see and hear a "Neyland crowd". Whether it stays that way is a different matter.

IMO of course.
 
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1 Thing you can be certain is they will play the full game, you will not see them give up or quit.

So take the game for a full game, or they will continue to press us.
 
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