Israel caught spying on the USA...again.

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From the NPR.


US Sees Israel, Tight Mideast Ally, As Spy Threat

NPR.org, July 28, 2012 · WASHINGTON (AP) — The CIA station chief opened the locked box containing the sensitive equipment he used from his home in Tel Aviv, Israel, to communicate with CIA headquarters in Virginia, only to find that someone had tampered with it. He sent word to his superiors about the break-in.

The incident, described by three former senior U.S. intelligence officials, might have been dismissed as just another cloak-and-dagger incident in the world of international espionage, except that the same thing had happened to the previous station chief in Israel.

It was a not-so-subtle reminder that, even in a country friendly to the United States, the CIA was itself being watched.



US Sees Israel, Tight Mideast Ally, As Spy Threat
 
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Yeah, but I don't like the thought of an "ally" spying on us but gladly taking millions for their military defense straight from the USA.

if you don't think the US spies on it's allies, you're dreaming. It's only logical that our allies try to get inside our head as well.
 
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So let me get this straight, we are butthurt because our guy in charge of spying against Israel had his spy gear messed with by their counter intel guys? And in exactly the same way they messed with his predecessor?

Shouldn't they have covered that in the transition briefing? Could they maybe have changed security protocols? Instead of *****ing about Israel messing around, shouldn't someone be getting fired?
 
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So let me get this straight, we are butthurt because our guy in charge of spying against Israel had his spy gear messed with by their counter intel guys? And in exactly the same way they messed with his predecessor?

Shouldn't they have covered that in the transition briefing? Could they maybe have changed security protocols? Instead of *****ing about Israel messing around, shouldn't someone be getting fired?



We have a CIA branch in Israel just like we do in a handful of other countries. The point was apparently an Israeli broke in and messed up the equipment.
 
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We have a CIA branch in Israel just like we do in a handful of other countries. The point was apparently an Israeli broke in and messed up the equipment.
Wow, really? Must have missed it! What other countries do we have CIA branches in, wouldn't mind knowing.
 
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if it has an embassy, it has a CIA field office. But you already knew that :)

I would swear on a stack of bibles I never saw a sign for a CIA field office in any embassy, nor did I ever meet anyone with the title CIA Station Chief on his business card, never.
 
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Given Israel's position, they have to know everything...all the time...about everyone.
 
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I would swear on a stack of bibles I never saw a sign for a CIA field office in any embassy, nor did I ever meet anyone with the title CIA Station Chief on his business card, never.

that means they were doing their job
 
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The better question may be which countries does the US officially not spy against?

I believe the answer is Canada, Great Britain, Austrailia, and New Zealand. Same officially goes for the with regard to us. Note that Israel is not on that list.
 
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The better question may be which countries does the US officially not spy against?

I believe the answer is Canada, Great Britain, Austrailia, and New Zealand. Same officially goes for the with regard to us. Note that Israel is not on that list.

We tried spying on Australia, but all they do is get drunk and sheer sheep.
 
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I'm virtually certain that YorkVol is being truthful while serving up a heaping helping of sarcastic tone.

I mean - why would the Deputy to the Social Events Laison at the embassy have a CIA business card??
 
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Haha, that's what I was thinking. "Hi, I'm
Bob Smith, I'm heading up our CIA Branch here in this foreign country."

Good ole sarcasm.
 
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We have a CIA branch in Israel just like we do in a handful of other countries. The point was apparently an Israeli broke in and messed up the equipment.

Remember when our CIA chief in Beiruit was captured, murdered and film of him swinging and kicking from a garrot as he died was sent back to us by Hezbollah who also bombed and killed something like 250 Marine peacekeepers while they slept in their barracks.

The breakin and tampering with communications equipment by whoever did it, (why do you automaticly say it was the Israelis, although it probably was) is no big deal compared to Beiruit, we do it ourselves all the time also in foreign embassies all over the world.

FYI we most likely have at least one CIA operative in each of the 165 or so countries in which we maintain an presence.

Back when I was wearing the earphones we copied Vatican City for God's sake, you are trying to make something out of nothing.

PS; Tenntradition, where have you been?
I've been meaning to ask you, could you reccomend the six best resturants in Boston? Someone keeps telling me thy can't find a good one there.
 
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GS - I've been around. Split my time with another board.

As for restaurants, it depends on what kind of cuisine they are looking for, but I can highly recommend the following:

Pizza - Pizzeria Regian (North End)
Italian - Al Dente (North End)
French - Gaslight (South End)
Tapas - Dali (Cambridge) and Taberna de Haro (Brookline)
-If they do Taberna, make sure they get the Bienmesabe
Seafood - Neptune Oyster (North End) (mainly just for great selection of oysters)
Thai - The Chili Duck (Back Bay)
Mexican - Ole's (Cambridge) traditional Mexican, not tex-mex - great drinks
Pub Food - Cambridge Common (Cambridge) or Tavern in the Square (Cambridge)


That's a start...let me know if they have something more specific they're looking for.
 
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GS - I've been around. Split my time with another board.

As for restaurants, it depends on what kind of cuisine they are looking for, but I can highly recommend the following:

Pizza - Pizzeria Regian (North End)
Italian - Al Dente (North End)
French - Gaslight (South End)
Tapas - Dali (Cambridge) and Taberna de Haro (Brookline)
-If they do Taberna, make sure they get the Bienmesabe
Seafood - Neptune Oyster (North End) (mainly just for great selection of oysters)
Thai - The Chili Duck (Back Bay)
Mexican - Ole's (Cambridge) traditional Mexican, not tex-mex - great drinks
Pub Food - Cambridge Common (Cambridge) or Tavern in the Square (Cambridge)


That's a start...let me know if they have something more specific they're looking for.

Thanks every so much, allways the gentelman and scholar.

Maybe another seafood place and where to get the best breakfast.


Mens et Manus and Veritas Vos Liberabit
 
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Thanks every so much, allways the gentelman and scholar.

Maybe another seafood place and where to get the best breakfast.


Mens et Manus and Veritas Vos Liberabit

Mens et Manus, indeed. i don't think that Veritas Vos Liberabit is one of ours...but I suppose we are speaking truth about food....so it works for me.

For seafood, one place that my wife spoke highly of, but I never made it to was East Coast Grill (Cambridge St., Cambridge).

Seafood, outside of raw bars (which boston has some great places for) is kind of weird in Boston. I found most of it to be kind of average with a relatively high price tag. I think it is because Boston itself isn't a fishing port (more shipping) and the fisheries somewhat collapsed along the northeast...so the fish is good, but not amazing. Legal Seafood is a local chain that actually has pretty good fish for a more reasonable price, but I wouldn't single it out as "special."

As for breakfast, that is definitely a wide-open area because everyone seems to have their favorites...and it tends to be more of a local thing. But, we frequented diners like Sound Bites (Broadway near Ball Square in Somerville) and Deluxe Town Diner (Watertown). For more of the Boston feel, you can go downtown to the Paramount (Charles Street in Beacon Hill). I'm not sure it's necessarily better, but some people like the Beacon Hill feel.
 
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Mens et Manus, indeed. i don't think that Veritas Vos Liberabit is one of ours...but I suppose we are speaking truth about food....so it works for me.

For seafood, one place that my wife spoke highly of, but I never made it to was East Coast Grill (Cambridge St., Cambridge).

Seafood, outside of raw bars (which boston has some great places for) is kind of weird in Boston. I found most of it to be kind of average with a relatively high price tag. I think it is because Boston itself isn't a fishing port (more shipping) and the fisheries somewhat collapsed along the northeast...so the fish is good, but not amazing. Legal Seafood is a local chain that actually has pretty good fish for a more reasonable price, but I wouldn't single it out as "special."

As for breakfast, that is definitely a wide-open area because everyone seems to have their favorites...and it tends to be more of a local thing. But, we frequented diners like Sound Bites (Broadway near Ball Square in Somerville) and Deluxe Town Diner (Watertown). For more of the Boston feel, you can go downtown to the Paramount (Charles Street in Beacon Hill). I'm not sure it's necessarily better, but some people like the Beacon Hill feel.

Thanks again.

Veritas Vos Liberabit is more of a Tennessee thing, although not neccessarily UT.

It could also apply to CO2 as well as food.

You do know that the effect of CO2 as it relates to weather is logarighmic rather than linear?

It contribues zero to actual warming.

Any other effect it may have on the atmosphere is absolutely minimal but consider what we have done and continue to do based on either bad science or in many cases outrights lies.

NOAA has just been exposed to be manipulating what they report temperature wise upward from actual data purely for political reasons.

We are using tens of thousands of acres of food producing land to produce ethanol and subsidizing the whole process from planting to refining.

Negative effects;

1. Increased gasoline prices and taxes to pay for the process.

2. Increased food prices and even famine in some parts of the world because of a decrease in food production.

3. More CO2 is introduced into the atmosphere which may not really be a bad thing but it is if you believe the alarmist mantra that CO2 is going to kill us all.

This year 57 coal fired electrical plants will close and that will grow to number in the hundreds in just a few short years.

NO ONE should be the least bit surprised when their electrical bill grows exponentially, everything the consumer will buy will become greatly inflated because all the producers, distributors and retailers will also have to pass along their electrical costs.

NO ONE should be the least bit surprised when we start to experience huge brownouts and blackouts because of decreased production and just not enough to go around, particularly during times of extreme heat of cold.

We continue to pour money down the drain by wasting resources on solar, wind and algae energy sources that just aren't going to replace what we are now destroying not to mention that many if not most just belly up and go bankrupt without huge government subsidies and even then most go out of business as soon as the federal gray train runs dry.

All of this is just insane if you look at the big picture from an logical, rational point of view.

Still we keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

PS; Your wife still waterski? :thumbsup:
 
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Waterski?

Ummm...not really. Not that she ever did all that much....why?

Especially not now since she is 36 weeks pregnant...
 
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Waterski?

Ummm...not really. Not that she ever did all that much....why?

Especially not now since she is 36 weeks pregnant...

My heartfelt congratulations!

Bless you. You will never have another moment in life equal to the birth of your first child.

(Don't know why you didn't receive many more congratulations from posters here, especially among those who swear by AGW.)

Re; state farm tailgate commercial;

You have a ski boat?

You're married?

Oh, so she is European?

I thought you would remember that.

Mens et Manus.

BTW, the guy who delivered those lines is now appearing in a Pizza Hut commercial in which he plays essentially the same character. I couldn't catch his lines since I was babysitting grandchildren and they were spouting their own lines.

FWIW I am expecting another grandchild.

Someone once said; 'you teach your children about life, your grandchildren teach you how to live.'

I would say there is a lot to truth to that statement.

Any comment on my assessment of our current energy policy?

Back to the essense of the original thread.

The Israelies are petitioning for the pardon of Pollard, who has been imprisoned by the USA for 27 years.

Now Holder optained the pardon of Mark Rich who was the greatest tax cheat in American history, Pueto Rico communist terrorists who were responsible for scores of terrorist bombings against civilian targets and hundreds of drug dealers who were mostly involved in cocaine trafficing.

What are the chances of Pollard being set free by the current anti-Israeli administration?

Anyone want to answer that question?
 

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