Israel vs Palestinians

[UTFanForLife]

A watermelon is not racist, but if I am talking about black people and I am holding a watermelon it would appear racist. Coincidentally, holding an octopus is not anti-Semite, but holding an octopus while showing support for a group of individuals who inherently hate Jewish people would appear anti-Semite.

My only guess is the people who think that was a nazi salute also think the crowd are nazis. Which also means they have an IQ of room temperature water.

 

[Vol8188]

The point of this was not complicated and I assume you're missing it deliberately, Greta is also autistic and did something far less "offensive" on its face and many in this thread (probably including you) were whining about it without any references to "grace"

My memory of the Greta thing was you continually bringing it up and no one caring.

 

[volbound1700]

A watermelon is not racist, but if I am talking about black people and I am holding a watermelon it would appear racist. Coincidentally, holding an octopus is not anti-Semite, but holding an octopus while showing support for a group of individuals who inherently hate Jewish people would appear anti-Semite.

My only guess is the people who think that was a nazi salute also think the crowd are nazis. Which also means they have an IQ of room temperature water.

Technically, the Nazis stole the salute from Fascist Italy who believe it was the Roman salute from the Ancient World (Fascist Italy was going to remake the Roman Empire).

You see mimics of it in a lot of old school movies depicting Romans (notably Ben Hur).

 

[NashVol11]

My memory of the Greta thing was you continually bringing it up and no one caring.

Then you don't remember very well, it was the other way around and people kept trying to make it bigger than it was. It was a toy FOR autistic people

Yes, it was intentionally in the photo. Nothing gets by the VN detectives. I will repeat, who gives a ****?

 

[82_VOL_83]

Does he? He was respectfully asked a question that he very intentionally ignored by me. Feel free to phrase it as respectfully as you believe necessary, but he still won’t answer.

He answers people he thinks have sympathy for his misguided causes. If you disagree with him in anyway, you are simply wrong and not worth responding to.

 

[EasternVol]

Then you don't remember very well, it was the other way around and people kept trying to make it bigger than it was. It was a toy FOR autistic people

He misremembered? Imagine that.

 

[NashVol11]

He answers people he thinks have sympathy for his misguided causes. If you disagree with him in anyway, you are simply wrong and not worth responding to.

85SugarVol doesn't agree with me on pretty much anything except the Yankees, but we're fine. I don't generally respond to you because your only contributions are personal attacks

 

[82_VOL_83]

85SugarVol doesn't agree with me on pretty much anything except the Yankees, but we're fine. I don't generally respond to you because your only contributions are personal attacks

I don't ride that fence like he does. I have pretty solid beliefs and when someone posts things as asinine as most of yours are, not much else to do than point out where you are wrong. Even that gets old.

 

[85SugarVol]

85SugarVol doesn't agree with me on pretty much anything except the Yankees, but we're fine. I don't generally respond to you because your only contributions are personal attacks

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. I’m betting we’re probably 98% aligned on LGB.

 

[85SugarVol]

I don't ride that fence like he does. I have pretty solid beliefs and when someone posts things as asinine as most of yours are, not much else to do than point out where you are wrong. Even that gets old.

Lol. As Nash correctly pointed out (mostly) we disagree all over this board across a range of topics - we’re simply capable of discussing it civilly (usually). Neither of us sacrifice our beliefs.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

US Green Card Holder Stabs 4 In Israel Terror Attack — Then Is Shot Dead​

A Moroccan national with a US green card stabbed and wounded four people in a terror attack in Israel on Tuesday before he was shot dead, officials said.

Abdelaziz Kaddi, 29, went on a rampage attacking four men between the ages of 24 to 59 in Tel Aviv, the Times of Israel reports.

Kaddi, who held a US permanent resident card, had entered Israel on Jan. 18 with a tourist visa, Israeli officials said.

Israeli police say the attack happened in Tel Aviv’s Nahalat Binyamin neighborhood Tuesday evening, with witnesses reporting that Kaddi was killed by an armed civilian.

US green card holder stabs 4 in Israel terror attack — then is shot dead

Kaddi, who held a US permanent resident card, entered Israel on Jan. 18.

nypost.com

US green card holder stabs 4 in Israel terror attack — then is shot dead

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I don't know what the concealed/open carry laws are like in Israel for actual citizens, but if I was one of them I would be walking around at maximum loadout 24/7 and have a lethal weapon in every room of the house as well...and I almost never carry a gun here. If you cant carry a gun, I would carry the largest blade allowed even if it was a kukri/machete/short sword. Its always been dangerous there because of the muslims...but Oct. 7th changed things in my opinion. Plus, Israel has been at war for their survival for thousands of years. War against coward terrorists is the worst kind IMO, never knowing who, when, or where you will be attacked. We are blessed to be Americans and wake every morning with the natural barriers of the Atlantic and Pacific to protect us from attacks. Few countries on Earth have the peace of mind that comes from our location.

The Israeli people have had to regularly run to bomb shelters in their neighborhoods and hunker down to be safe for their entire lives...its amazing that they show the restraint which they do when attacking the enemy. I highly doubt that we would. People who have had to live in fear for their entire lives from rockets and missiles raining down on their homes, schools, churches and supermarkets could easily and understandably have short fuses and little to no mercy. This hasnt been the case though...in fact, Israel does more to avoid civilian casualties with their attacks than anyone I know of when at war. Despite the holocaust, the 6 day war, and countless other attempts to eradicate the Jewish people and their country. It's actually remarkable.

 

[NashVol11]

I don't know what the concealed/open carry laws are like in Israel for actual citizens, but if I was one of them I would be walking around at maximum loadout 24/7 and have a lethal weapon in every room of the house as well...and I almost never carry a gun here. If you cant carry a gun, I would carry the largest blade allowed even if it was a kukri/machete/short sword. Its always been dangerous there because of the muslims...but Oct. 7th changed things in my opinion. Plus, Israel has been at war for their survival for thousands of years. War against coward terrorists is the worst kind IMO, never knowing who, when, or where you will be attacked. We are blessed to be Americans and wake every morning with the natural barriers of the Atlantic and Pacific to protect us from attacks. Few countries on Earth have the peace of mind that comes from our location.

The Israeli people have had to regularly run to bomb shelters in their neighborhoods and hunker down to be safe for their entire lives...its amazing that they show the restraint which they do when attacking the enemy. I highly doubt that we would. People who have had to live in fear for their entire lives from rockets and missiles raining down on their homes, schools, churches and supermarkets could easily and understandably have short fuses and little to no mercy. This hasnt been the case though...in fact, Israel does more to avoid civilian casualties with their attacks than anyone I know of when at war. Despite the holocaust, the 6 day war, and countless other attempts to eradicate the Jewish people and their country. It's actually remarkable.

"Israelis have had to live in fear of like 800 civilians dying, it's amazing and remarkable that they only killed ~40 THOUSAND Palestinian civilians (so far) who definitely don't have to live in fear or run to bomb shelters. Israel is truly the victim here"

 

[NashVol11]

Just very funny to talk about people who have had to live in fear of rockets and missiles being understandably angry without realizing you are describing Palestinians to a T, with the missiles (and checkpoints, food restrictions, etc.) coming directly from the entity you are portraying as the victim

 

[LSU-SIU]

"Israelis have had to live in fear of like 800 civilians dying, it's amazing and remarkable that they only killed ~40 THOUSAND Palestinian civilians (so far) who definitely don't have to live in fear or run to bomb shelters. Israel is truly the victim here"

If it were truly up to the 40,000 those Jews would have been dead a long time ago. They would wipe them out completely if they could. The countries that claim they care could easily take in all those people. I'm not saying its a good situation but it is what it is.

They are meaningless pawns. Not much I can do about it.

 

[StarRaider]

 

[volfanhill]

Where are the American hostages?

 

[hog88]

Where are the American hostages?

Good question.

 

[KB5252]

"Israelis have had to live in fear of like 800 civilians dying, it's amazing and remarkable that they only killed ~40 THOUSAND Palestinian civilians (so far) who definitely don't have to live in fear or run to bomb shelters. Israel is truly the victim here"

While there is a point to what you are saying you avoid a very unsettling truth.

Palestinian terrorist either raped, and or tortured, and or kidnapped and or killed every Jew they could find that day, every single one. Some received all the above.

If Israel wanted to enact the same vengeance on Palestinians they would effectively cease to exist in Israel based on their capabilities.

While I agree with you their actions have gone too far and will do more harm to their cause than good they've certainly shown more restraint than their Palestinian counterparts based on capabilities.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

While there is a point to what you are saying you avoid a very unsettling truth.

Palestinian terrorist either raped, and or tortured, and or kidnapped and or killed every Jew they could find that day, every single one. Some received all the above.

If Israel wanted to enact the same vengeance on Palestinians they would effectively cease to exist in Israel based on their capabilities.

While I agree with you their actions have gone too far and will do more harm to their cause than good they've certainly shown more restraint than their Palestinian counterparts based on capabilities.

Yeah I just can't. Its like trying to discuss Trump with LG or Luther. Or argue with my wife when shes PMS crazy...you cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational person. Its impossible. My post was meant for all the people who do not hate the Jews or actually believe that terrorists have rights...because they don't. Got nothing but love for everybody that posts here, but I am not gonna argue with irrational strangers in my spare time.

 

[NashVol11]

Yeah I just can't. Its like trying to discuss Trump with LG or Luther. Or argue with my wife when shes PMS crazy...you cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational person. Its impossible. My post was meant for all the people who do not hate the Jews or actually believe that terrorists have rights...because they don't. Got nothing but love for everybody that posts here, but I am not gonna argue with irrational strangers in my spare time.

Palestinian civilians aren't "terrorists" and you keep talking about them like they aren't humans, damn right you "just can't" parrot that ghoulish bull**** with no pushback. Bombing hospitals and killing 6-year-olds like Hind Rajab for no reason whatsoever but poor them

 

[NashVol11]

It's really remarkable they're so nice to civilians. Poor them the killers are the real victims

Rajab and her family were fleeing Gaza Citywhen their vehicle was shelled, killing her uncle, aunt and three cousins, with Rajab and another cousin surviving and contacting the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) to ask for help while noting that they were being attacked by an Israeli tank. The cousin was later also killed and Rajab was left stranded in the vehicle for hours on the phone, as paramedics from PRCS attempted to rescue her. Both Rajab and the paramedics were later also found killed on 10 February after an Israeli withdrawal.

Israel claimed that there weren't any troops present in the neighborhood and denied carrying out the attack. However, this was refuted by investigations relying on satellite imagery and visual evidence, which concluded that a number of Israeli tanks were indeed present and one had likely fired 335 rounds on the car that Rajab and her family had been in, with tank operators being able to see that the car had civilians including children in it.[5] The Forensic Architecture investigation also concluded that an Israeli tank had also likely attacked the ambulance that came for Rajab.

 

[Orangeslice13]

It's really remarkable they're so nice to civilians. Poor them the killers are the real victims

^^^^^^^
The irony of this.

 

[NashVol11]

^^^^^^^
The irony of this.

If Palestinian civilians were the killers you might be onto something

 

[Orangeslice13]

It’s an absolute fact that there are not 40k plus dead Hamas/Palestinians if the Hamas/Palestinians don’t attack on 10/07.
It’s also a fact that nobody has any idea the identity and the percentage of that identity killed. It’s just as likely that all of them are Hamas terrorist as it is that they were all innocent civilians