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Don't be distracted by Georgia posters on this board. Right now, you have got to worry about LSU. You lose to LSU, and it does not matter what happens with Georgia, and here is why.

Let's say my beloved UF wins out in the SEC and you are cooked as far as the SEC c-ship is concerned. But, BCS has room for 2 teams not winning their conferences. Getting into the BCS is still entirely within reach for UT even if the Gators win out in the SEC East, but only if you win the rest of your games, starting with LSU.

Can two-loss teams still go to the BCS? Sure. But not you if you lose next weekend. The reason is that, if you lose that game, at 1-2 the pollsters have to drop you to the bottom of the Top 25 or maybe even out of it altogether and then we are talking Cap One Bowl because you don't have enough marquis games to get back into the Top 8.

The second scenario is that UF loses to LSU or 'bama plus an SEC East game. If you've won out (including Ga.), you control your own destiny as far as the SEC East is concerned.

The thing about your schedule this year is that you cannot survive in the polls and computers by starting out 0-2 versus the SEC. Win Saturday and you have hope and a plan. Lose, and I just don't see UT being mentioned much in the boardrooms outside of Orlando or Tampa.

Not being mean. Its just the way it is. Time for your squad to get serious and come out looking to be the pissed off machine you know they can be if they get on a roll offensively.

No more standing on the sidelines and looking bewildered, Casey. Ainge, if you get in the game don't be pissed off when there are 12 guys in the huddle -- YOU need to get your head together and call the time out and not rely on the coaches to do it for you. Fulmer, let's start grabbing some of the facemasks on these kids and giving them what for when they blow an assignment. Tell them its not okay!!

 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Sep 18, 2005 4:35 PM
Let's say my beloved UF wins out in the SEC
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Lets see that actually happen first
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Sep 18, 2005 5:35 PM
No more standing on the sidelines and looking bewildered, Casey. 
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He can't help it he works for Mississippi.

Just kidding. I know you meant Rick.

:wink2:
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Sep 18, 2005 6:35 PM
Fulmer, let's start grabbing some of the facemasks on these kids and giving them what for when they blow an assignment.  Tell them its not okay!!
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I have never seen Phil do that. I would love to see it though. It beats the "it's ok" and the pat on the head he gives them now.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Sep 18, 2005 5:35 PM
Don't be distracted by Georgia posters on this board.  Right now, you have got to worry about LSU.  You lose to LSU, and it does not matter what happens with Georgia, and here is why.

Let's say my beloved UF wins out in the SEC and you are cooked as far as the SEC c-ship is concerned.  But, BCS has room for 2 teams not winning their conferences.  Getting into the BCS is still entirely within reach for UT even if the Gators win out in the SEC East, but only if you win the rest of your games, starting with LSU.

Can two-loss teams still go to the BCS?  Sure.  But not you if you lose next weekend.  The reason is that, if you lose that game, at 1-2 the pollsters have to drop you to the bottom of the Top 25 or maybe even out of it altogether and then we are talking Cap One Bowl because you don't have enough marquis games to get back into the Top 8.

The second scenario is that UF loses to LSU or 'bama plus an SEC East game.  If you've won out (including Ga.), you control your own destiny as far as the SEC East is concerned.

The thing about your schedule this year is that you cannot survive in the polls and computers by starting out 0-2 versus the SEC.  Win Saturday and you have hope and a plan.  Lose, and I just don't see UT being mentioned much in the boardrooms outside of Orlando or Tampa.

Not being mean.  Its just the way it is.  Time for your squad to get serious and come out looking to be the pissed off machine you know they can be if they get on a roll offensively.

No more standing on the sidelines and looking bewildered, Casey.  Ainge, if you get in the game don't be pissed off when there are 12 guys in the huddle -- YOU need to get your head together and call the time out and not rely on the coaches to do it for you.  Fulmer, let's start grabbing some of the facemasks on these kids and giving them what for when they blow an assignment.  Tell them its not okay!!
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i agree completely
 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Sep 18, 2005 5:59 PM
He can't help it he works for Mississippi.

Just kidding. I know you meant Rick.

:wink2:
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Maybe you meant Mississippi State.
 
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Originally posted by Jmxvol@Sep 18, 2005 7:44 PM
Maybe you meant Mississippi State.
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I did. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

:kiss:
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Sep 18, 2005 4:52 PM
I have never seen Phil do that.  I would love to see it though.  It beats the "it's ok" and the pat on the head he gives them now.
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I think it would be redundant. They know when they have screwed up.
 
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Fulmer is just a passive aggresive kind of guy. I would love to see what he's like in the locker room before a game and at halftime. Anyone ever been there in person? All I have seen are a few clips here and there.

I'm not sure if he possesses that fired up trait.
 
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It's not always necesary. Our old HS coach, Craig Reucker was quiet and calm in the locker room before games. But our team played intensley enough to make the playoffs 17 times in 21 seasons with 2 state titles in that span.

Just goes to show it depends from coach to coach. I think intensity is better got from emtoional leaders on the team rather than the coach. It feels more... personal.
 
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Yeah ok, but highschool ball and college ball are two different things, but you know that.

I will make a reference to Pat Summit, she yells and yells and yells and she gets results out of it. (only thing I could think of this late)

I think when the players fear the coach, they tend to perform better. It's not even really about the fear as much as the intensity.

Would you say that Fulmer is intense?
 
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Lots of coaches yell and get nowhere.

Yelling is over-rated.

Unless you can coach, it is pointless
 
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Originally posted by U-T@Sep 19, 2005 2:12 AM
Yelling is over-rated.
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Is this a proven theory? There are plenty of great coaches out there that do it. I'm not saying that Fulmer has to walk around the sideline in everyones face all of the time. Every now and then couldn't hurt anything.
 
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And there are plenty of those that don't yell that prevail too.

Unless you can coach, it doesn't matter if you yell or not.

Zook yelled a lot. What good it did him
 
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Originally posted by U-T@Sep 19, 2005 1:33 AM
And there are plenty of those that don't yell that prevail too.

Unless you can coach, it doesn't matter if you yell or not.

Zook yelled a lot. What good it did him
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Its not the yelling that matters. In fact, I regret using that word to describe it. Its more a question of intensity. I think the UF players look up the sideline now and see an intense UM, a guy who stops players coming off the field and pats them on the back when they do well and gets in their face when the blow it. Not yelling so much as trying to keep their heads in the game and learning the whole time. Zook yelled, but did not seem as in command or intense. I think Fulmer looks bored sometimes. Not all the time. but sometimes. I just don't think he exudes that "let's go get it" mentality.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Sep 18, 2005 5:35 PM
Don't be distracted by Georgia posters on this board.  Right now, you have got to worry about LSU.  You lose to LSU, and it does not matter what happens with Georgia, and here is why.

Let's say my beloved UF wins out in the SEC and you are cooked as far as the SEC c-ship is concerned.  But, BCS has room for 2 teams not winning their conferences.  Getting into the BCS is still entirely within reach for UT even if the Gators win out in the SEC East, but only if you win the rest of your games, starting with LSU.

Can two-loss teams still go to the BCS?  Sure.  But not you if you lose next weekend.  The reason is that, if you lose that game, at 1-2 the pollsters have to drop you to the bottom of the Top 25 or maybe even out of it altogether and then we are talking Cap One Bowl because you don't have enough marquis games to get back into the Top 8.

The second scenario is that UF loses to LSU or 'bama plus an SEC East game.  If you've won out (including Ga.), you control your own destiny as far as the SEC East is concerned.

The thing about your schedule this year is that you cannot survive in the polls and computers by starting out 0-2 versus the SEC.  Win Saturday and you have hope and a plan.  Lose, and I just don't see UT being mentioned much in the boardrooms outside of Orlando or Tampa.

Not being mean.  Its just the way it is.  Time for your squad to get serious and come out looking to be the pissed off machine you know they can be if they get on a roll offensively.

No more standing on the sidelines and looking bewildered, Casey.  Ainge, if you get in the game don't be pissed off when there are 12 guys in the huddle -- YOU need to get your head together and call the time out and not rely on the coaches to do it for you.  Fulmer, let's start grabbing some of the facemasks on these kids and giving them what for when they blow an assignment.  Tell them its not okay!!
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If Florida wins out, they're going to have to do what we're having to do: Find an offense.

Both offenses deserved to lose Saturday, and that's the truth of it.
 
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I dissagree with that statement. Florida was able to move the ball when they had to and march down the field to put the game clinching 3 points on the board. They were just facing one of the best defenses in the SEC with alot of talent and speed that matched up with their players well.
 
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Originally posted by vols3131@Sep 19, 2005 8:56 AM
Florida was able to move the ball when they had to
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No they weren't. We stopped them many a times in crunch time included twice when we gave the ball away near our red zone and got them to score just 3
 
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They did move the ball in the 4th quarter, on their last fg drive. That essentially put the game away.
 
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Only after the offense inability to sustain a drive forced them to be on the field for almost the entire 3rd & 4th qtr's. Both offenses were pathetic - we lost get over it... move on...life is too short to gripe about all this BS!!!!!
 
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