Its my body,

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#526
USMC-TNVOL said:
Your pro life position is not based only on science and natural law. Essentially, you’re stating once implantation happens, it’s murder. If that’s the case, then you’re against incest or rape abortions as well.
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You haven’t refuted my statement.
Are people born of rape or incest second class citizens or deserving of less human value??
 
#528
#528
USMC-TNVOL said:
What’s the definition of a baby? Not the definition non-medical people use.
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Deflection from the question since we are talking about women and their choice. How many times have you ever heard a woman refer to what she is carrying as an embryo?
 
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#530
0nelilreb said:
Deflection from the question since we are talking about women and their choice. How many times have you ever heard a woman refer to what she is carrying as an embryo?
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No it’s not a deflection. Almost all women call their embryos babies. Doesn’t mean they’re using it right. They’re using the term of what it will become once born.
 
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#531
Roustabout said:
You haven’t refuted my statement.
Are people born of rape or incest second class citizens or deserving of less human value??
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That’s not the point. It’s the woman’s decision as to whether they want it. So a woman should be forced to have a baby from rape or incest?
 
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#532
USMC-TNVOL said:
No it’s not a deflection. Almost all women call their embryos babies. Doesn’t mean they’re using it right. They’re using the term of what it will become once born.
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So the women you are sticking up for based on it being “ not a baby “ but a group of cells can’t even seem to wrap their head around it ? 🤔
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
That’s not the point. It’s the woman’s decision as to whether they want it. So a woman should be forced to have a baby from rape or incest?
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It is the point. Answer the question.
Forced? I’m pretty sure child birth is natural. I’ve never forced a woman to have a baby.
 
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Roustabout said:
That’s not what you asked.

But, for the sake of discussion I’ll gladly concede abortion for all rapes and incest so long as you support outlawing all others, deal?

Let me guess.........
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You know what was meant. Your view is rape or incest isn’t means for abortion.

In all other cases, I think up abortion should be legal until 24 weeks, when they are usually considered viable.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
That’s not the point. It’s the woman’s decision as to whether they want it. So a woman should be forced to have a baby from rape or incest?
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You are making your case on at best/worst 15% of abortions.

So you are saying we can get rid of the vast majority?
 
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#543
USMC-TNVOL said:
You know what was meant. Your view is rape or incest isn’t means for abortion.

In all other cases, I think up abortion should be legal until 24 weeks, when they are usually considered viable.
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So well after it's left the embryo stage of development.
 
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#545
USMC-TNVOL said:
Your pro life position is not based only on science and natural law. Essentially, you’re stating once implantation happens, it’s murder. If that’s the case, then you’re against incest or rape abortions as well.
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I'll say it. I am. An unjust act doesnt justify another, separate unjust act. I understand it's hard, traumatic and a terrible experience to be a victim of rape and I'm an advocate for severe punishment for rapists but the abortions due to that is significantly small and to justify a blanket authority to kill a baby based on that is asinine imo. I dont get my home broken into by Septic and then break into yours to recoup the tv that Sep stole. I would also steal his knives and forks so hes left with just spoons just to inconvenience him.

It is based on science and natural law. When a baby is formed, it is undeniably a separate human. Whether or not you value that human is inconsequential to the baby being a unique life
 
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