it's the players' fault!!!

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gule said:
Blackburn? he ain't the AD.
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Who then? My sources say David has the "inside" lead, but our new female chancellor has no inside leanings, so anything is possible.

Point being: The new ad, no matter who he or she is, will give Holly one more year. Her contract runs out, and she has the Number 1 class arriving on Rocky Top.
 
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Voldon18 said:
Heartbreaking week in East Tennessee. I missed the game due to helping in Gaglinburg, but I kept checking my iPhone when possible.

Just watched the game, and thank goodness I was able to fast-forward. Maybe I should never watch live.

Sadly, this type of massive-failure loss can't be blamed on one entity, it's on everyone, from Holly down to the team managers. Holly's lost when it comes to teaching and motivating these young ladies; yet more importantly, the players are lost to the point of fundamental anarchy. They can't pass, block out, defend ... and in some cases even dribble the ball with finesse. They haven't been able to hit lay ups during Holly's reign, and the decline in consistent close-range shooting began in the last few years under Pat. The problem has never been addressed, period. If you take 400 lay ups in practice instead of utilizing 95% of your time on outside shots, you'll hit nine of 10 lay ups in the game.

If Holly survives this season and comes back for '17-18, she needs to can her entire staff, sans Reaves. We need a fundamental beast to coach our guards. A tough-as-nails up-and-comer to guide our post. Dean has been here too long. He'll get a good job. He's actually done a decent, but not great, job with Mercedes.

Diamond needs to go pro, even though $$ is no obstacle in her life. She's pressing and feels the sole pressure of living up to the Summitt legacy. She needs a fresh start. I actually love her game, when it's on. We aren't seeing "on" much this year. I cringe to think how much Te'a and Diamond could kill team chemistry if they play together. If Te'a leaves because DD goes pro, so be it. Hayes can be our now and future at the point.

David Blackburn won't fire Holly this summer. No way with a Number One class coming in. But she's on a one-year probation. No massive improvement and anything less than Final Four = retirement.

We can hope for steady improvement going forward. Things sure can't get worse, can they?
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I only have one minor tweak to what you wrote.
If DeShields and/or Russell leave after this year, it would be unreasonable to think that a team composed of mostly freshmen could make their way to the final four next year.
That would, imo, mean that Holly will be here the remainder of this year, next year and the year after that.
Which coincides with the expiration of Holly's contract (March 31, 2019)
 
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UTLadyvolsfan said:
My point is that if the coaches can't coach players like Nared, DD and Russell to be winners, how does anyone think it will be any better with Westbrook, etc?
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They played well individually against Baylor, but 2 or three players does not make a team.

Wholeheartedly agree tho. If we can't win with the players we have, then it's a coaches fault. Doris is 100% right in saying that so many teams would kill to have the players TN does.

If these Lady Vols were coached by Gino, Aston, Mulkey, Vandeveer, Staley, Walz, Frese, McGraw, or Schafer....we'd possibly be #1 in the country. Even tho we'd still have struggles at the PG position...
 
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Rickster said:
STFU....seriously. How crass. Your opinion is all that matters?
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Nope, opinions are all like *******s. Everyone's got one.

And this is a message board where we are all entitled to spew our opinions, not just the ones that make you feel warm and cuddly inside.
 
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Trixietrouble said:
But, couldn't this year's team performance have been reasonably predicted just based on attrition alone? You lose Bashaara, Andraya (unexpectedly), and Te'a (unexpectedly) from last year's team without any significant additions - this team just isn't going to be as good. No mystery here.
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From the standpoint of whether this team is less talented with the losses of Bashaara and Te'a, I agree with you. Which is why expectations were not as high this year as they were for the team last year going into the season.

Last year, they played so far below their potential that it was embarrassing. Although this year's roster was weaker by comparison, I expected them to have a better record than last year because Holly would have sorted out the chemistry and gameplay deficiencies in the off season. What we're left with is a team that is less talented than the one that underachieved last season, and still plagued with lack of competent coaching.

This is not a ranked team, and Tennessee will be irrelevant as a title contender or even a darkhorse before mid-December. Quite sad, actually.
 
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Trixietrouble said:
Certainly Holly takes a lot of the blame because she is the one who is ultimately accountable for the team's overall performance, regardless of the reasons.

But, couldn't this year's team performance have been reasonably predicted just based on attrition alone? You lose Bashaara, Andraya (unexpectedly), and Te'a (unexpectedly) from last year's team without any significant additions - this team just isn't going to be as good. No mystery here.
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QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR POOR PERFORMANCES.
For players OR coaches.
 
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utkCREW said:
They played well individually against Baylor, but 2 or three players does not make a team.

Wholeheartedly agree tho. If we can't win with the players we have, then it's a coaches fault. Doris is 100% right in saying that so many teams would kill to have the players TN does.

If these Lady Vols were coached by Gino, Aston, Mulkey, Vandeveer, Staley, Walz, Frese, McGraw, or Schafer....we'd possibly be #1 in the country. Even tho we'd still have struggles at the PG position...
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Doris knows we've got the #1 class in the country. Get them in here, then kick Holly out after coaching them 1 year if needed.
 
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