Jaden Rashada sues Florida for reneging on $13 mil NIL

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lawgator1 said:
Yes. Though the NIL money is a whole 'nother level of incentive to jump ship every year.
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Yes, it probably puts gas on the fire to a certain degree, but you'd have this nonsense of a guy playing for 4 schools in 5 years without NIL. I'm just saying that everybody who doesn't like how the game has changed blames NIL when I think the transfer rules are what has really changed it, for better or worse.
 
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TheDeeble said:
That's because transfer rules back then were significantly more prohibitive. Player had to ask for a release from the school he was enrolled in. If the school said no and the player left, then he lost a year of eligibility since he wasn't allowed to play for one year and had to pay out of pocket for the year of school he transferred to. Transferring then wasn't worth it.

If players could transfer as easily then as they can now, then I think we would have seen a lot more transfers. Under the table money and playing time were still very motivating factors.
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I do not disagree, that's why its the combination of the portal and NIL which are killing the concept of college football, as it existed just five years ago.
 
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05_never_again said:
What has really changed the sport are the transfer rules. Way more so than NIL. These situations where guys are playing for 3-4 different schools in their career that have almost become routine wouldn't happen.

Even if NIL didn't exist, guys would still be moving around all over the place looking for more playing time, a better under the table deal, etc.
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Agreed. The unlimited transfer portal is more of the villain than NIL. The portal has been the biggest contributing factor in the exponential increase in NIL money being thrown around.
 
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I like the snippet from Crawford at 247 that Kirby gave the green light to the suit being filed. Obviously twisting the knife on Napier.
 
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Glad it ain't my money.

I do think that there will be exhaustion, at some point. What we've see over the last 30 years, I think, is that paying people more money doesn't make them smarter. So if 100 teams want a $100 million NIL budget, the available player skill be unaffected. That's fundamental. Nobody is going to run faster when he has unlimited money. After about 10 years of seeing that, the people paying all those billions will be wearied.
 
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05_never_again said:
What has really changed the sport are the transfer rules. Way more so than NIL. These situations where guys are playing for 3-4 different schools in their career that have almost become routine wouldn't happen.

Even if NIL didn't exist, guys would still be moving around all over the place looking for more playing time, a better under the table deal, etc.
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plenty of guys played for three schools. start out a one school, go to Juco, transfer to a third school. the process is much simpler now. heck you throw in a graduation and that guy could play at a fourth school without any problems under the old system.
 
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LouderVol said:
plenty of guys played for three schools. start out a one school, go to Juco, transfer to a third school. the process is much simpler now. heck you throw in a graduation and that guy could play at a fourth school without any problems under the old system.
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I'm talking about guys playing 3-4 different D1 schools.

Under the old rules once in a blue moon a guy ended up playing for 3 D1 schools, with the third coming as a grad transfer. It'd get special attention during the broadcast, announcers would talk about how unusual that was, etc. It's pretty commonplace now.
 
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Delmar said:
Problem is now we are seeing average talent getting 400K.
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like who? I mean if you mean average as in starting SEC quality, then maybe. but average to me is a back up or starting at MTSU or something.

I am a believer that the economic side of things will work itself out. right now the players have all the power as they are the new commodity with all buyers. eventually the splurge on the new commodity will dry up. it will start with the small G5 schools. make it ways to the bottom of the barrel P5. then the top G5, middle P5, and eventually to the top P5.

as the market adjusts the dollar amounts will too. no way the market will maintain higher pay for college kids than the pro-athletes for long.
 
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LouderVol said:
1. not sure how this is Napiers, or UF's fault the NIL deal thru with a third party collective or agent.
2. seems like he is opening up himself to getting sued by Miami for backing out of his NIL deal there. this could set a dangerous precedence for players getting sued in return for not meeting the NIL requirements.
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Exactly. Unless there is video of Napier promising something, it's basically "He said she said". That doesn't meet the legal standard for proof.
 
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LouderVol said:
like who? I mean if you mean average as in starting SEC quality, then maybe. but average to me is a back up or starting at MTSU or something.

I am a believer that the economic side of things will work itself out. right now the players have all the power as they are the new commodity with all buyers. eventually the splurge on the new commodity will dry up. it will start with the small G5 schools. make it ways to the bottom of the barrel P5. then the top G5, middle P5, and eventually to the top P5.

as the market adjusts the dollar amounts will too. no way the market will maintain higher pay for college kids than the pro-athletes for long.
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Yes for an average SEC player. I mean I’m pretty sure we are offering more than that right now for a guy we hope averages 12 points a game for the bball team. To me that’s pretty average. Pretty sure Arkansas is going to pay Aidoo more than that and I don’t believe he is worth it. But it is the law of supply and demand now and Cam Newton was a long time ago. Nowadays Cam Newton would be staring at millions and nobody would say a word.
 
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And this reiterates a point I have made elsewhere, which is that the most successful teams in the best markets will have the money to keep getting the very best players. Teams like Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, Vandy, they are all screwed because the rich will just get richer with the best talent they can legally now buy.

I get the legality of that and it is what it is. But I fully predict that in a relatively short period of time you will see a lot of programs just close up shop in football because they can never spend the money it will take to be competitive. Far easier to have an NIL budget of a few million for an entire basketball team than $10 million + for one elite football player.
 
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i would almost bet money that prominent UF boosters have already met or had phone discussions to figure out if the way the pruitt firing went down here can be applied to napier. i would almost bet a little more money that when the gators open the season, napier will not be the head coach
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm talking about guys playing 3-4 different D1 schools.

Under the old rules once in a blue moon a guy ended up playing for 3 D1 schools, with the third coming as a grad transfer. It'd get special attention during the broadcast, announcers would talk about how unusual that was, etc. It's pretty commonplace now.
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Those NCAA old times violated at least 2 federal laws. The Interstate Commerce Act and the Sherman Antitrust Act. It is appalling that the NCAA got away with it for as long as they did.
 
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There is always going to be a steady supply of top talent going to lower tier teams like Duke, Louisville, Indiana, ...etc because they want to play. Four and Five star talents that did not catch on when they signed with Bama, UGA, tOSU. So they transfer and they chose this team because they WILL start.
 
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ptgrbn said:
Kid may forever tarnish his brand for being litigious. Reputations are forever. Good luck Jaden, bad move. You should fire your handler and focus more on justifying your worth on field. Geez!!!!
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He's riding the pine at Az St. Something may change of course, but that $14 million may be more money than he makes the rest of his life

Given the situation I would be trying to get every dime promised to me. Put yourself in that situation and I'm sure you would also.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Tip of the iceberg for college football. You will see some iteration of this kind of claim over and over and over, again. Its a function of the incomprehensible manner in which NIL came to be. No one messed this up on purpose, it was disorganization and lack of communication, distinct roles as between the football program and the outside NIL entity. I imagine odds are high he will get something out of it in the form of settlement as the university doesn't want these question marks out there as Napier tries to rebuild the team..

Having said that, there is a certain irony that, as soon as UF could not meet its original commitment, he immediately bolted to Arizona State, and then immediately now bolts to UGA. Three schools in basically 18 months. Can't blame him, but its the equivalent of unrestricted free agency every Spring now for all 5 stars, moving from highest bidder to highest bidder.

The sport, as I grew up with it, is no more.
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I don’t think you’ll see the suits that much. Just with the schools like Florida that make promises they can’t actually come through on. Lol.
 
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Gatoringa said:
If in fact they have text messages Florida has no choice than to fire Napier. All because Florida refused to hire a coach who could manage things at this level.
It’s now another starting over point. Probation, staff firings and players bolting
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Here comes the Lane Train.
 
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ptgrbn said:
Kid may forever tarnish his brand for being litigious. Reputations are forever. Good luck Jaden, bad move. You should fire your handler and focus more on justifying your worth on field. Geez!!!!
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Georgia may rue the day that let that guy in their locker room.
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What is wrong with you people?

If your kid was promised 9.5M to do a job, then got a better offer for 13M, then they couldn't pay him........ you'd think your kid is the bad guy for suing the people who ACTUALLY cost him millions by lying to him about their offer?

How can he be the bad guy in your eyes? FL lured him away from Miami with lies about paying him more.

What if it was you? What if another company offered you 1/3rd more money so you took that job instead of another job, then you find out they can't really pay you? What would you do?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
What is wrong with you people?

If your kid was promised 9.5M to do a job, then got a better offer for 13M, then they couldn't pay him........ you'd think your kid is the bad guy for suing the people who ACTUALLY cost him millions by lying to him about their offer?

How can he be the bad guy in your eyes? FL lured him away from Miami with lies about paying him more.

What if it was you? What if another company offered you 1/3rd more money so you took that job instead of another job, then you find out they can't really pay you? What would you do?
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Didn’t he have a CONTRACT with Miami?
 
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