Jalen Tabor has an opinion

[CobbVol]

Jalen Tabor ....

Florida's Jalen Tabor compares NCAA to 'modern form of slavery' | NCAA Football | Sporting News

 

[RockyTop411]

I would love to get my school payed for and have a degree without thousands of dollars in debt.

 

[malinoisvol]

He should quit the team. That'll show them. Nah!

 

[Burger]

I would love a full ride and a stipend. Players really don't appreciate what they have.

 

[crusse10]

I would love to get my school payed for and have a degree without thousands of dollars in debt.

maybe with a rudimentary spelling and grammar class thrown in

 

[crusse10]

I don't disagree. Yes, they all get a full ride to get their degree, but they're also playing a sport proven to destroy their brains. Is the scholarship really a fair level of compensation? I hardly believe so.

 

[Through_The_T]

I don't disagree. Yes, they all get a full ride to get their degree, but they're also playing a sport proven to destroy their brains. Is the scholarship really a fair level of compensation? I hardly believe so.

Then they need to work for an academic scholarship in order to get a free ride, like the rest of society. I have little pity for someone playing a game and receiving their education paid for, as well as their room/board and meals. Comparing it to slavery is asinine and shows how spoiled and coddled these athletes are.

Also, if you truly want athletes to be paid, they need to be paid what they are worth, as is the case with the rest of our Capitalist society. So the Deshaun Watson's of the world can be multi-millionaires, but the vast majority who will not go on to the NFL, and aren't marketable to the masses, won't be compensated. We'll see how much complaining there is after that....

 

[Backwards K]

I don't disagree. Yes, they all get a full ride to get their degree, but they're also playing a sport proven to destroy their brains. Is the scholarship really a fair level of compensation? I hardly believe so.

Nobody's making them play. To compare big time college football to slavery is ignorance at it's finest.

 

[crusse10]

Then they need to work for an academic scholarship in order to get a free ride, like the rest of society. I have little pity for someone playing a game and receiving their education paid for, as well as their room/board and meals. Comparing it to slavery is asinine and shows how spoiled and coddled these athletes are.

Also, if you truly want athletes to be paid, they need to be paid what they are worth, as is the case with the rest of our Capitalist society. So the Deshaun Watson's of the world can be multi-millionaires, but the vast majority who will not go on to the NFL, and aren't marketable to the masses, won't be compensated. We'll see how much complaining there is after that....

Spoiling and coddling a group of people who are killing themselves on the field for your entertainment and then killing themselves with a gun a little later in their lives may not be the least humane thing ever

God forbid they're paid properly to the point they can set up proper savings for the inevitable medical issues they'll have for the rest of their lives

 

[crusse10]

Nobody's making them play. To compare big time college football to slavery is ignorance at it's finest.

A lot of kids from poorer communities feel that sports is the only way to get out of the terrible situations they are in. In that respect, you could say that their society is making them play. You could also say that their families are making them play.

 

[rocktopper16]

Spoiling and coddling a group of people who are killing themselves on the field for your entertainment and then killing themselves with a gun a little later in their lives may not be the least humane thing ever

God forbid they're paid properly to the point they can set up proper savings for the inevitable medical issues they'll have for the rest of their lives

No one is forcing them to play though.

 

[BearCat204]

Jalen Tabor is a moron

 

[crusse10]

No one is forcing them to play though.

Do you truly believe that nobody in their families forced them to play football growing up? And when they realized the kid's potential, that the parents and other adult figures didn't force them to keep working and keep improving as a way to try and get him on the path to the NFL?

 

[BearCat204]

Spoiling and coddling a group of people who are killing themselves on the field for your entertainment and then killing themselves with a gun a little later in their lives may not be the least humane thing ever

God forbid they're paid properly to the point they can set up proper savings for the inevitable medical issues they'll have for the rest of their lives

They are paid properly in the form of education. If they want some dollars, they are welcome to go to Canada.

 

[BearCat204]

I don't disagree. Yes, they all get a full ride to get their degree, but they're also playing a sport proven to destroy their brains. Is the scholarship really a fair level of compensation? I hardly believe so.

This equals slavery to you?

 

[crusse10]

They are paid properly in the form of education. If they want some dollars, they are welcome to go to Canada.

Do you not think that, in playing a sport known to irreparably harm the brain, one of the most hollow payments possible is schooling without included funding to protect that knowledge in the form of a medical savings account?

 

[crusse10]

This equals slavery to you?

Slavery in the sense of not being paid adequately, not being able to own rights to yourself, not being able to transfer and play immediately (unless you've already completed your degree)

Yeah. There are a few things in the business of college football where the player is told a list of things normal Americans can legally do that he cannot do.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

A lot of kids from poorer communities feel that sports is the only way to get out of the terrible situations they are in. In that respect, you could say that their society is making them play. You could also say that their families are making them play.

You're exactly right; they feel this way because their community/environment perpetuates the thought process. However, that doesn't make it right.

The communities in the FL Muck think this way and the emphasis is put on sports rather than education, skills, jobs etc. Kids grow up thinking that if they don't make it out via sports, then they're destined to sling rocks in downtown Belle Glade or Pahokee. It's not only an either/or option, but its been ingrained in them to believe it is.

 

[Burger]

Slavery in the sense of not being paid adequately, not being able to own rights to yourself, not being able to transfer and play immediately (unless you've already completed your degree)

Yeah. There are a few things in the business of college football where the player is told a list of things normal Americans can legally do that he cannot do.

So most working Americans are slaves?

 

[Through_The_T]

Slavery in the sense of not being paid adequately, not being able to own rights to yourself, not being able to transfer and play immediately (unless you've already completed your degree)

Yeah. There are a few things in the business of college football where the player is told a list of things normal Americans can legally do that he cannot do.

Again, equating a system that pays for your education, meals and a roof over your head to slavery is asinine and extremely disrespectful to the millions over global history that have had to endure it. It's ignorance at best.

To the next point, supporters of paying players want it both ways, though. If you pay all of the players a set amount, that isn't a reflection of the rest of society.

If you truly want to pay players, they need to be compensated according to what they bring to their programs, like every other employee/employer relationship in this country. So, the Deshaun Watson, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey types can make their deserved millions off of merchandise, ticket sales, etc. and the rest of the athletes need to be paid according to what they are worth. For the non-starters and non big-name players, tough luck, you don't get squat. That's the free market for you.

Is that the system you want to see implemented?

 

[jpope9]

The term slave gets thrown around too loosely now, I didn't realize playing a sport you love with a free education with a potential to make millions, or graduating and getting a good job because of connections to institution was slavery. I could have sworn it meant working against your will while not being able to freely leave or stop doing it....

 

[crusse10]

Again, equating a system that pays for your education, meals and a roof under your head to slavery is asinine and extremely disrespectful to the millions over global history that have had to endure it. It's ignorance at best.

To the next point, supporters of paying players want it both ways, though. If you pay all of the players a set amount, that isn't a reflection of the rest of society.

If you truly want to pay players, they need to be compensated according to what they bring to their programs, like every other employee/employer relationship in this country. So, the Deshaun Watson, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey types can make their deserved millions off of merchandise, ticket sales, etc. and the rest of the athletes need to be paid according to what they are worth. For the non-starters and non big-name players, tough luck, you don't get squat. That's the free market for you.

Is that the system you want to see implemented?

It's never going to be a perfect system, just like the NFL isn't. I could see it being a scenario where every school has a set amount every year, and but unlike the NFL, you renegotiate it after every year. I'm not sitting here saying that I have all the answers. I'm simply saying that I understand where a player is coming from when they say that they work harder than just about every student on campus at a profession that will either kill you or will drive you to kill yourself, and that because of it, they should have compensation to set up a health fund, ownership of their name and likeness, and ownership of themselves if they intend to transfer. Coaches, as long as they pay the piper, can dip out whenever, but players can literally be told where they can and cannot continue their schooling on scholarship.

It's not slavery. I agree. But there are certain aspects of the current collegiate athletics model that can be related to a slavery system.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

It's never going to be a perfect system, just like the NFL isn't. I could see it being a scenario where every school has a set amount every year, and but unlike the NFL, you renegotiate it after every year. I'm not sitting here saying that I have all the answers. I'm simply saying that I understand where a player is coming from when they say that they work harder than just about every student on campus at a profession that will either kill you or will drive you to kill yourself, and that because of it, they should have compensation to set up a health fund, ownership of their name and likeness, and ownership of themselves if they intend to transfer. Coaches, as long as they pay the piper, can dip out whenever, but players can literally be told where they can and cannot continue their schooling on scholarship.

It's not slavery. I agree. But there are certain aspects of the current collegiate athletics model that can be related to a slavery system.

You make it sound like every football player past and present is going to die because they played football. That simply is not the case. There are issues, but not at the level you seem to think.

 

[Burger]

I think the concussion thing is highly exaggerated. More often than not, players go onto a fruitful career outside of sports. Lawrence Phillips and others also did drugs, which do way more damage than football.

 

[crusse10]

You make it sound like every football player past and present is going to die because they played football. That simply is not the case. There are issues, but not at the level you seem to think.

A solid amount have heightened physical pains for the rest of their lives, and more and more are being found to suffer from early onset dementia or are killing themselves from CTE. Because of the physical toll, I think it's good for them to be able to, at the very least, make money off their name and likeness to be able to set money aside. Would they do that with the money they get? That's tough to answer.