James Franklin having it his way

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James Franklin is going to fail miserably and it will be so exciting and entertaining and fun to watch happen.

Couldn't happen to a ****tier human being too.....
 
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madbamahater said:
James Franklin is going to fail miserably and it will be so exciting and entertaining and fun to watch happen.

Couldn't happen to a ****tier human being too.....
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Or a University, hate it for the players but I hope they suffer decades of mediocrity after what happened to those kids. How can anyone walk past those showers knowing what happened there
 
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He broke two different very well known rules there. First, of course you cannot promote a prospect like that. Second, you cannot display custom made graphics with the prospect's name and image.

The NCAA changed up the way secondary violations are handled last year, so I'll be very curious to see how this is handled.
 
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eVOLution said:
Or a University, hate it for the players but I hope they suffer decades of mediocrity after what happened to those kids. How can anyone walk past those showers knowing what happened there
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+1 and what he did was definitely a violation
 
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spikesglaring said:
He broke two different very well known rules there. First, of course you cannot promote a prospect like that. Second, you cannot display custom made graphics with the prospect's name and image.

The NCAA changed up the way secondary violations are handled last year, so I'll be very curious to see how this is handled.
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I think in this day and age it isn't that big of a deal. When a player visits a school there is often-times a jersey with their number in a locker with their name above it. Photos are taken and it's out on social media.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I think in this day and age it isn't that big of a deal. When a player visits a school there is often-times a jersey with their number in a locker with their name above it. Photos are taken and it's out on social media.
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That is not the same experience as hyping someone in the middle of a basketball arena. If what Franklin did was legal everyone would do it and college basketball games in January would turn into a showcase of football recruits. And you don't get to pick and choose which rules to follow based on what you decide is a big deal and what is not.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I think in this day and age it isn't that big of a deal. When a player visits a school there is often-times a jersey with their number in a locker with their name above it. Photos are taken and it's out on social media.
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In this case, the "locker" was in front of a live crowd, on center-ice of the intercollegiate hockey match, which gives the school an advantage not allowed.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is not the same experience as hyping someone in the middle of a basketball arena. If what Franklin did was legal everyone would do it and college basketball games in January would turn into a showcase of football recruits. And you don't get to pick and choose which rules to follow based on what you decide is a big deal and what is not.
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UT-Rex said:
In this case, the "locker" was in front of a live crowd, on center-ice of the intercollegiate hockey match, which gives the school an advantage not allowed.
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Which do you think has more of an impact:

1) Social Media

2) A scoreboard at a college hockey game. Attendance 6150.

And since you two are on your high-horse check out this nugget of info from the NCAA:

(WBIR) The University of Tennessee's compliance office has self-reported seven recent violations of NCAA bylaws.

Violations were found in football, women's basketball, track and field, as well as men's and women's golf. Each of them are secondary violations and self-reported.

Related: Full list of recent Tennessee self-reported NCAA violations

Some of the violations included a football recruit being shown on the video board at a home basketball game.

In another instance, the women's basketball staff gave too much money for a recruiting visit by $10. That recruit has to pay that extra money back.

The newest reported violations were all reported since April 17, 2014.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Which do you think has more of an impact:

1) Social Media

2) A scoreboard at a college hockey game. Attendance 6150.

And since you two are on your high-horse check out this nugget of info from the NCAA:

(WBIR) The University of Tennessee's compliance office has self-reported seven recent violations of NCAA bylaws.

Violations were found in football, women's basketball, track and field, as well as men's and women's golf. Each of them are secondary violations and self-reported.

Related: Full list of recent Tennessee self-reported NCAA violations

Some of the violations included a football recruit being shown on the video board at a home basketball game.

In another instance, the women's basketball staff gave too much money for a recruiting visit by $10. That recruit has to pay that extra money back.

The newest reported violations were all reported since April 17, 2014.
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There is no high horse in expecting a school to follow rules (which they have to know exist). Again, you don't get to pick and choose which rules to follow based on what you determine to be a big deal.

And I consider being acknowledged in front of a live crowd a more memorable experience for the recruit than anything that can be done on social media, which however extravagant it may be, will always have an impersonal feel to it... and I am well aware that Tenn has both self reported minor infractions and been turned in for them by rivals.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is no high horse in expecting a school to follow rules (which they have to know exist). Again, you don't get to pick and choose which rules to follow based on what you determine to be a big deal.

And I consider being acknowledged in front of a live crowd a more memorable experience for the recruit than anything that can be done on social media, which however extravagant it may be, will always have an impersonal feel to it... and I am well aware that Tenn has both self reported minor infractions and been turned in for them by rivals.
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Quit being so naive. Minor infractions happen all the time at pretty much every school. Yes, the school does get to choose which rules to break based on the severity of the penalty. Is it worth it, or not?

UT committed the exact same infraction. Again, it's no big deal.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Quit being so naive. Minor infractions happen all the time at pretty much every school. Yes, the school does get to choose which rules to break based on the severity of the penalty. Is it worth it, or not?

UT committed the exact same infraction. Again, it's no big deal.
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This was deliberate in nature unlike what Tennessee did... not to mention much more of a choreographed display.
 
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I think Boca is missing the fact that this kid getting on the jumbotron got all over social media. fans at the game, anyone else at the game or even the recruit can put it out there like they can for a locker with their number. and most of the time their number is already represented in the locker room so nothing special is needed. what makes one harmless is that the school is not putting it out there. putting a kid on the jumbotron the school is responsible for, especially when singled out.
 
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LouderVol said:
I think Boca is missing the fact that this kid getting on the jumbotron got all over social media. fans at the game, anyone else at the game or even the recruit can put it out there like they can for a locker with their number. and most of the time their number is already represented in the locker room so nothing special is needed. what makes one harmless is that the school is not putting it out there. putting a kid on the jumbotron the school is responsible for, especially when singled out.
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Which also happened at UT and probably 75% of the other schools. Penn St. did it at a hockey game. UT did it at a basketball game.

You guys are splitting hairs on this because it's Franklin.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I think in this day and age it isn't that big of a deal. When a player visits a school there is often-times a jersey with their number in a locker with their name above it. Photos are taken and it's out on social media.
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That's very different from a collegiate athletic event, attended by the media. Kiffin ruffled some feathers for throwing a fake media event for a recruit when he was here.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Which also happened at UT and probably 75% of the other schools. Penn St. did it at a hockey game. UT did it at a basketball game.

You guys are splitting hairs on this because it's Franklin.
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UT panned the camera to a recruit that was in the crowd, and put it on the big screen. PSU pranced him up on the ice and presented him to the crowd while showing a photoshopped picture of him as if he were playing for PSU.

That's two different rule violations, and both are a bit different from what you are comparing to.

Like I said, UT got busted for a similar event under Lane Kiffin. It was a minor infraction, as will this one be.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
UT panned the camera to a recruit that was in the crowd, and put it on the big screen. PSU pranced him up on the ice and presented him to the crowd while showing a photoshopped picture of him as if he were playing for PSU.

That's two different rule violations, and both are a bit different from what you are comparing to.

Like I said, UT got busted for a similar event under Lane Kiffin. It was a minor infraction, as will this one be.
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I think his point was they aren't that different. And if the punishments are about the same, sounds like they aren't.
 
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