Jarnell Stokes/Jared Sullinger

[bleedingTNorange]

I would say he is more of an Anthony Mason type. Athletic, has decent handles, but not the best outside shot.

Someone who I just thought of and can't believe I didn't think of sooner! Kevin jones from wvu. Physically they are almost identical jones is 6' 8" 260lbs pretty much exactly stokes. Their game is also very similar in that they can hit the outside shot but are usually down low and have a good mid range game. I really think that if your trying to make a comparison this is about the most realistic and fair comparison that can be made.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Could we see Golden, Tatum, Maymom, Stokes and Hall on the court?

I doubt it cause that'd be stokes at the 3 and as far as I can tell he is a 4 may get some minutes at the 5 in our system. I don't think your far off Woolridge getting time at the 3 it's definitely a possibility, especially since coach Martin seems to like Woolridge and wanting to reward his effort with minutes. Also, Cameron and Jordan's struggles could also help get renaldo some time at the 3.

 

[MemphisCanes]

Sully is 6'10"-6'11" 280 and a legitmate 5 with elite post skills.

Stokes is 6'7"-6'8" 270 (from last reports, he's put on a lot of weight since he's not been playing organized ball, could be a good thing or bad thing). Stokes is a 4 man with a decent outside shot. Good rebounding instincts but not really a polished, fundamental, back-to-the-basket post game.

Carmelo Anthony was something like 6'7" 210 lbs. when he was a freshman in college, and was labeled as a SF. Even now for the Knicks, he only weighs 230. Melo has a completely rounded game and can play conmfortably on the perimeter. Besides the fact that they look a bit alike, I don't really see too many similarities between Melo and Stokes.

Like someone else said, I expect Stokes to play like Tobias Harris did last season, with better rebounding and worse handles.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Sully is 6'10"-6'11" 280 and a legitmate 5 with elite post skills.

Stokes is 6'7"-6'8" 270 (from last reports, he's put on a lot of weight since he's not been playing organized ball, could be a good thing or bad thing). Stokes is a 4 man with a decent outside shot. Good rebounding instincts but not really a polished, fundamental, back-to-the-basket post game.

Carmelo Anthony was something like 6'7" 210 lbs. when he was a freshman in college, and was labeled as a SF. Even now for the Knicks, he only weighs 230. Melo has a completely rounded game and can play conmfortably on the perimeter. Besides the fact that they look a bit alike, I don't really see too many similarities between Melo and Stokes.

Like someone else said, I expect Stokes to play like Tobias Harris did last season, with better rebounding and worse handles.

No the melo comparison are absurd I dot care who you are coming out of high shool we shouldn't be comparing to a perennial NBA all-star that's idiotic. I do get people say it because he has said that's who e model his game after and watches a lot, it his favorite player but please don't compare them your setting yourself up for disappointment.

I still feel very good in comparing him to Kevin jones I really think those of you that have watched jones play that is about what you can expect.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

The first person on VN to compare Stokes to Anthony was ONLY talking about looks. I'm pretty sure no one declared that their games are similar, this talk just stemmed from their facial similarities.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

The first person on VN to compare Stokes to Anthony was ONLY talking about looks. I'm pretty sure no one declared that their games are similar, this talk just stemmed from their facial similarities.

Ok that would make sense then, fair enough. They do look as though they could pass for brothers definitely.

 

[zjcvols]

Sully is 6'10"-6'11" 280 and a legitmate 5 with elite post skills.

Stokes is 6'7"-6'8" 270 (from last reports, he's put on a lot of weight since he's not been playing organized ball, could be a good thing or bad thing). Stokes is a 4 man with a decent outside shot. Good rebounding instincts but not really a polished, fundamental, back-to-the-basket post game.

Carmelo Anthony was something like 6'7" 210 lbs. when he was a freshman in college, and was labeled as a SF. Even now for the Knicks, he only weighs 230. Melo has a completely rounded game and can play conmfortably on the perimeter. Besides the fact that they look a bit alike, I don't really see too many similarities between Melo and Stokes.

Like someone else said, I expect Stokes to play like Tobias Harris did last season, with better rebounding and worse handles.

Sullinger is not 6'10-6'11. Are you insane? He's barely 6'9. He would be the first pick if he was 6'11.

Carmelo was 6'8 when he was at Cuse.

And from latest reports, Stokes is 6'9/270, and is in very good shape.

 

[JelloPuddinPup]

Since nobody really knows with all the video we have is some drills from practice and highlights on YouTube why don't we give him a few games to show us who he plays like.

But since we'll keep going regardless I'll give my opinion.

It certainly isn't Melo, yet. Stokes just doesn't have the quickness and speed with the ball to be the offensive player Melo is. He can be a MUCH better defender than Melo because that is one thing Melo will never be accused of...playing defense.

I see Tobias in the way that he's a high IQ player and will be a little methodical yet effective on offense. So maybe a slightly slower, less offensively polished yet stronger and more physical Tobias inside and out.

I don't know anywhere enough about his back to the basket game to compare him to the best post up player in the NCAA in Sullinger.

I'd also like to see him shoot outside some on video before I really say anything about his shot. All his highlight videos that had him shooting outside or posting up seemed to be mostly against sub-par competition so I don't draw much from those. (Ex: Scotty Hopson's high school highlights were phenomenal!)

Anyway you spell it though, I think he brings some serious size, skill and talent and raises our teams ceiling quite a bit. If he can be even remotely effective this season it's a bonus we weren't expecting.

GBO!

 

[bleedingTNorange]

i really honestly feel from seeing both of them in person and after just watching uconn-wvu last night jarnell stokes game strongly resembles kevin jones. look him up if you get a chance and watch some video, same size, build and same game. he is someone you can watch and get a pretty good idea as to how jarnell will play the game. as stated though, nobody realliy knows how he is going to play only time will tell.

 

[MemphisCanes]

Sullinger is not 6'10-6'11. Are you insane? He's barely 6'9. He would be the first pick if he was 6'11.

Carmelo was 6'8 when he was at Cuse.

And from latest reports, Stokes is 6'9/270, and is in very good shape.

Sullinger measured 6'10" 280 at the draft combine. Jared Sullinger measures in at 6'10, 281 lbs | NBADraft.net

I've seen him listed as tall as 6'11", but probably on Ohio State publications.

Carmelo was listed as 6'7" coming into college. Carmelo Anthony - Yahoo! Sports

Stokes may say otherwise, but most think he's no taller than 6'7" at this point.

He may be pushing 6'8" now, but he definitely ain't no 6'9".

 

[zjcvols]

Sullinger measured 6'10" 280 at the draft combine. Jared Sullinger measures in at 6'10, 281 lbs | NBADraft.net

I've seen him listed as tall as 6'11", but probably on Ohio State publications.

Carmelo was listed as 6'7" coming into college. Carmelo Anthony - Yahoo! Sports

Stokes may say otehrwise, but most think he's no taller than 6'7" at this point.

Carmelo is listed at 6'7" on Rivals/Scout. He may be pushing 6'8" now, but he definitely ain't no 6'9".

Jared is listed 6'9 on Ohio State's website. If he was up to 6'11 he'd be the #1 pick.

Carmelo is definitely 6'8. Now, he's not 6'9. But he's 6'8. I'm pretty sure he was 6'8 at Cuse, cause he played PF for them.

Stokes has said 6'9 (which isn't unlikely because he has size 20 shoes, he's still growing) and is 6'8 among everything I have read. I'm pretty sure he was also 6'8 at the LeBron James Skills academy, though I may have read that wrong.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

He is every bit of 6' 8" comparing him in person to others. He may be close to 6' 9" but I have no doubt he is atleast 6' 8".

 

[MemphisCanes]

Jared is listed 6'9 on Ohio State's website. If he was up to 6'11 he'd be the #1 pick.

Carmelo is definitely 6'8. Now, he's not 6'9. But he's 6'8. I'm pretty sure he was 6'8 at Cuse, cause he played PF for them.

Stokes has said 6'9 (which isn't unlikely because he has size 20 shoes, he's still growing) and is 6'8 among everything I have read. I'm pretty sure he was also 6'8 at the LeBron James Skills academy, though I may have read that wrong.

Yeah, you just said that. I showed you a link where it was reported Sully clocked in at 6'10" this summer.

I also said that when Melo was Stokes' age he was listed 6'7". I'm not sure how anyone can definitively say that Cuse used Melo as the 4. He and Warrick played almost the same position.

Stokes has said he's 6'9". He's not. I also conceded he may be 6'8" by now. He knows he'll be an undersized 4 in the NBA, which is why he's dedicated to modeling his game after Melo, and rounding out his perimeter game. He's stated as much.

Why are you intent on arguing this?

 

[zjcvols]

Yeah, you just said that. I showed you a link where it was reported Sully clocked in at 6'10" this summer.

I also said that when Melo was Stokes' age he was listed 6'7". I'm not sure how anyone can definitively say that Cuse used Melo as the 4. He and Warrick played almost the same position.

Stokes has said he's 6'9". He's not. I also conceded he may be 6'8" by now. He knows he'll be an undersized 4 in the NBA, which is why he's dedicated to modeling his game after Melo, and rounding out his perimeter game. He's stated as much.

Why are you intent on arguing this?

Wait. Stokes is always going to be 6'8? Please, tell us how you know this.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I've seen nowhere where he said he knows hell be an undersized nba player, link? To everything I've heard he thinks he is still growing and trying to just improve every aspect of his game.

 

[zjcvols]

Yeah, you just said that. I showed you a link where it was reported Sully clocked in at 6'10" this summer.

I also said that when Melo was Stokes' age he was listed 6'7". I'm not sure how anyone can definitively say that Cuse used Melo as the 4. He and Warrick played almost the same position.

Stokes has said he's 6'9". He's not. I also conceded he may be 6'8" by now. He knows he'll be an undersized 4 in the NBA, which is why he's dedicated to modeling his game after Melo, and rounding out his perimeter game. He's stated as much.

Why are you intent on arguing this?

When have you seen Jarnell? When's the last time you've seen him? Also, who were you comparing him to height wise? Was he standing beside someone 6'10? Also, if he may be 6'8 now, why can't he be 6'9?

 

[MemphisCanes]

When have you seen Jarnell? When's the last time you've seen him? Also, who were you comparing him to height wise? Was he standing beside someone 6'10? Also, if he may be 6'8 now, why can't he be 6'9?

Memphis players. UT players. High School players. The guy hasn't grown 2 inches over the weekend. Dude's 6'8" max. Just wait til you see him on the court.

I've read your posts where you list him as progressively bigger and bigger, we know you'd like him to be 6'11".

Just hold your breath until that happens.

 

[zjcvols]

Memphis players. UT players. High School players. The guy hasn't grown 2 inches over the weekend. Dude's 6'8" max. Just wait til you see him on the court.

I've read your posts where you list him as progressively bigger and bigger, we know you'd like him to be 6'11".

Just hold your breath until that happens.

I hope he's 6'11. He'll be a higher draft pick. By no means does it mean it's going to happen. I also know he wears a size 20 shoe, which means there's a pretty decent he's not done growing. Ever heard of Paul George?

 

[MemphisCanes]

I hope he's 6'11. He'll be a higher draft pick. By no means does it mean it's going to happen. I also know he wears a size 20 shoe, which means there's a pretty decent he's not done growing. Ever heard of Paul George?

Either the guy from Fresno or Boy Geroge's husband.

 

[zjcvols]

Either the guy from Fresno or Boy Geroge's husband.

He just grew two inches over the summer at 21-22. He has like size 19 shoes. Will it happen to Jarnell? I don't know. But it's not illogical thinking that Jarnell might grow a couple more inches.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Either the guy from Fresno or Boy Geroge's husband.

apparently where this guy is from you stop growing at 16 and do not grow anymore. point is 6'8" ok we can all agree on that, the kid JUST turned 18 its a scientific fact that most males grow past the age of 18 look it up if you want to argue that. theres a good chance he may grow a few more inches then again he may also shrink and become mugsy bogues.

 

[MemphisCanes]

He just grew two inches over the summer at 21-22. He has like size 19 shoes. Will it happen to Jarnell? I don't know. But it's not illogical thinking that Jarnell might grow a couple more inches.

Yeah, but isn't that guy like 6'8" even after the growth spurt? Same shoe size as Stokes. Honestly, I've never met a group of guys as fixated on shoe sizes as some of the Vols fans here.

Kids come into college, for the most part, the height that they're going to be forever. Every once in a while sombody will grow an inch here or there. Maybe one in a few thousand will grow two; George and the kid from Baylor are the only ones that come to mind.

 

[zjcvols]

Yeah, but isn't that guy like 6'8" even after the growth spurt? Same shoe size as Stokes. Honestly, I've never met a group of guys as fixated on shoe sizes as some of the Vols fans here.

Kids come into college, for the most part, the height that they're going to be forever. Every once in a while sombody will grow and inch here or there. Maybe one in a few thousand will grow two; George and the kid from Baylor are the only ones that come to mind.

No. He was 6'8. Now he's 6'10.

And shoe size can show that people aren't done growing. We are saying it's possible that Stokes isn't done growing as you likely point out. Now why come on a Vol board and tell us that he's done growing when you don't know that?

 

[MemphisCanes]

No. He was 6'8. Now he's 6'10.

And shoe size can show that people aren't done growing. We are saying it's possible that Stokes isn't done growing as you likely point out. Now why come on a Vol board and tell us that he's done growing when you don't know that?

I don't think I've once said he was done growing. There's no way for you or I to know. I do, however, think it's MUCH more likely that he's done growing than that he'll grow another 2 inches. But I can't come outright and say he's done, nor have I.

I'm just sort of amused by the idea that you're expecting him to grow to 6'9" or taller. The only basis that I've heard for the assumption is that he's got size 20 shoes (weird that you even know that and think it's such an awesome thing) and that one other dude you know of grew 2 inches when he was 21.

It's befuddling. I'd think you'd be happy with Stokes as-is.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Yeah, but isn't that guy like 6'8" even after the growth spurt? Same shoe size as Stokes. Honestly, I've never met a group of guys as fixated on shoe sizes as some of the Vols fans here.

Kids come into college, for the most part, the height that they're going to be forever. Every once in a while sombody will grow an inch here or there. Maybe one in a few thousand will grow two; George and the kid from Baylor are the only ones that come to mind.

Does the NBA know some type of secret or something? Here are some examples. Feel free to do research on them so you know I am not lying. Most of these are late growth spurts and some not too late but just HUGE growth spurts. This is all pretty inspiring.

your right its very rare...

Dennis Rodman - He was 5'6 in high school. Then at the age of 19, he went from 5'9 to 6'8! Almost a foot! Growing pains....ouch.

David Robinson - 5'9 his junior year of high school and 6'7 his senior year and then 7'0 in College.

Scottie Pippen - Entered college at 6'1. Final height? 6'8.

Michael Jordan - He grew from 5'10 to 6'3 from his sophmore to junior year in highschool. Final Height is 6'6. I also heard no one in his family is over 6'0, but that was from only one source so not sure.

Chris Anstey - Played tennis until age 17. Then started playing basketball and grew 7 inches. Final height was 7'0. Hmmm did he grow taller because of basketball?

Tim Duncan - Grew 8 inches in some of his highschool years and now maxes out at 6'11.

Lamar Odom- Was 6'2 as a highschool point guard. Out of nowhere he hit a huge growth spurt to 6'9.

Manu Ginobli- Hes from Argentina, a country whose average height is 5'8 1/2. Both of his brothers were late bloomers, and reached 6 ft in their teens. Manu was also a late bloomer and in two years, he shot up 10 inches from 5'8 to 6'6.