Jeremy Banks out tonight

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UTFanHades said:
You pulled a statistic stating 90% of sexual assault cases are true as part of your argument. Do you deny doing this?
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No. I was making the point that it’s statistically more likely that an accuser is telling the truth since you’re bent on believing the accused.
 
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UTFanHades said:
My evidence is legal proceedings which she hasn’t prevailed in (criminal or civil). Even if 90% of charges are true-he was never charged with sexual assault. You clearly have some problem with him since you’ve gravitated from using claims without evidence as the truth to falsely accusing him of criminal misconduct.
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No doubt the woman has never won a single claim but Stoerner seems intent to slam Peyton on hearsay with NO facts to back it up. Evidently these so called witnesses never testified or changed there testimony like she has did countless times. But keep making your slanderous comments Stoerner your showing us what your all about.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
No. I was making the point that it’s statistically more likely that an accuser is telling the truth since you’re bent on believing the accused.
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That stat applies to sexual assaults and we both agree that’s not a sexual assault right? What is the relevance then for something other than that, which is what we’re now arguing? As far as me believing the accused, I don’t believe the accused, I believe the courts and legal system and the objective evidence standard required therein.
 
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I just don't see Banks getting called out for just an argument basically... Something else had to have went down... If we let him sit just because of an argument then we hurt ourself... Not having Banks hurt... He is our best pursuit guy after QBs.. And that lack of literally hurt us really bad... Banks pursuit of Young against Bama was huge.... Rattler is the same type of QB
 
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UTFanHades said:
That stat applies to sexual assaults and we both agree that’s not a sexual assault right? What is the relevance then for something other than that, which is what we’re now arguing? As far as me believing the accused, I don’t believe the accused, I believe the courts and legal system and the objective evidence standard required therein.
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It seems that the only logical fallacy you’re willing to reject is an ad hominem attack. You’re evidently fine with a straw man. Burden of proof is the standard for criminal guilt, with a guilty verdict being the only litmus test. To pretend like that is the standard for believing or not believing something is ridiculous. By your assertion, OJ is not guilty, and Trump is a fine moral specimen. There is substantial testimony, multiple financial settlements, and judges on record stating their doubt for the credibility of Manning’s testimony. As I said, I’m familiar with the case from primary sources. It seems you aren’t. At this point, I don’t have an interest in convincing you that Manning placed his goofy bottom in the face of our trainer, but I’m quite sure he did.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
It seems that the only logical fallacy you’re willing to reject is an ad hominem attack. You’re evidently fine with a straw man. Burden of proof is the standard for criminal guilt, with a guilty verdict being the only litmus test. To pretend like that is the standard for believing or not believing something is ridiculous. By your assertion, OJ is not guilty, and Trump is a fine moral specimen. There is substantial testimony, multiple financial settlements, and judges on record stating their doubt for the credibility of Manning’s testimony. As I said, I’m familiar with the case from primary sources. It seems you aren’t. At this point, I don’t have an interest in convincing you that Manning placed his goofy bottom in the face of our trainer, but I’m quite sure he did.
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Didn’t strawman-you’ve provided no proof. You inserted the allegation of sexual assault via using statistics related to them as proof, making the connection that it was. Thus, that is why I’m providing proof of no crime. As for pymts, I’ve already addressed why this doesn’t prove guilt. Again you’re being disingenuous in implying the payments were for the alleged assault and not defamation. As for the reference to OJ-it’s a very poor analogy. OJ was found liable civilly, Peyton wasn’t. Trump has zero relevance to anything related to Peyton and I’m not even sure what you’re alleging with that in regard to something Peyton has done. Still waiting on evidence of these primary sources and judges, who apparently don’t have names or citations to the case. I’m not disputing your surety of allegations you’ve made, you’ve made your opinion clear. I’m disputing that objective evidence obtained from legal rulings or police investigations exists for the sexual assault you’ve alleged through insinuation and now explicitly state in your last sentence.
 
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UTFanHades said:
Didn’t strawman-you’ve provided no proof. You inserted the allegation of sexual assault via using statistics related to them as proof, making the connection that it was. Thus, that is why I’m providing proof of no crime. As for pymts, I’ve already addressed why this doesn’t prove guilt. Again you’re being disingenuous in implying the payments were for the alleged assault and not defamation. As for the reference to OJ-it’s a very poor analogy. OJ was found liable civilly, Peyton wasn’t. Trump has zero relevance to anything related to Peyton and I’m not even sure what you’re alleging with that in regard to something Peyton has done. Still waiting on evidence of these primary sources and judges, who apparently don’t have names or citations to the case. I’m not disputing your surety of allegations you’ve made, you’ve made your opinion clear. I’m disputing that objective evidence obtained from legal rulings or police investigations exists for the sexual assault you’ve alleged through insinuation and now explicitly state in your last sentence.
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As I said, you’ve placed the burden for credibility to be equal to evidence for criminal prosecution. That’s patently absurd. if you don’t think you presented a straw man argument, then you don’t know what one is. Again the only witness who was not the accuser or the accused wrote Manning to ask him to own his mistake. In separate testimony, he stated that Manning’s bottom hitting her face may have been an accident, but he should admit he did it. The incidents didn’t lead to “a” settlement. They led to three. You parade this claim that the third settlement was for Manning’s false disparagement. The irony being that someone who needs to create a false narrative to discredit their accuser probably has something to hide. It’s obvious you have no interest in contemplating the possibilities or likelihoods, you want to protect the image of someone you admire. That’s a human flaw and an understandable, but your litmus test of asking for prosecutorial burden here isn’t something that’s a fair test, and it doesn’t prove his innocence.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Prove it
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Don’t have to, he already said it himself in a later post which is quoted in this thread. Why are you so miserable?

You’re surprised guys like Brent Hubbs and AP feed fans what the AD and HC want us to hear?

Do you take Heupel at his word in his press conferences when he is obviously trying to protect players privacy and maintain a competitive edge?
 
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joevols89 said:
Don’t have to, he already said it himself in a later post which is quoted in this thread. Why are you so miserable?

You’re surprised guys like Brent Hubbs and AP feed fans what the AD and HC want us to hear?

Do you take Heupel at his word in his press conferences when he is obviously trying to protect players privacy and maintain a competitive edge?
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That’s what I thought. Conjecture and nothing else.
 
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Has any other player in TN History been in as much trouble and continued to play? Crap, he was getting arrested in Memphis before he even arrived in Knoxville, and most people have no idea about it since the local media covers things up.
2018- Arrested in Memphis- Jeremy Banks Mugshot | 05/20/18 Tennessee Arrest

2019 Arrested in Knoxville- Tennessee FB Player Arrest Video, 'Where I'm From, We Shoot at Cops'

Bar Video -https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/video-surfaces-of-dismissed-tennessee-lb-jeremy-banks-allegedly-harassing-woman-outside-bar/

There are probably more I forgot about. No surprise people do not believe the explanation of the absence.
 
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websiteworld said:
Has any other player in TN History been in as much trouble and continued to play? Crap, he was getting arrested in Memphis before he even arrived in Knoxville, and most people have no idea about it since the local media covers things up.
2018- Arrested in Memphis- Jeremy Banks Mugshot | 05/20/18 Tennessee Arrest

2019 Arrested in Knoxville- Tennessee FB Player Arrest Video, 'Where I'm From, We Shoot at Cops'

Bar Video -https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/video-surfaces-of-dismissed-tennessee-lb-jeremy-banks-allegedly-harassing-woman-outside-bar/

There are probably more I forgot about. No surprise people do not believe the explanation of the absence.
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But but he can line up our D
 
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websiteworld said:
Has any other player in TN History been in as much trouble and continued to play? Crap, he was getting arrested in Memphis before he even arrived in Knoxville, and most people have no idea about it since the local media covers things up.
2018- Arrested in Memphis- Jeremy Banks Mugshot | 05/20/18 Tennessee Arrest

2019 Arrested in Knoxville- Tennessee FB Player Arrest Video, 'Where I'm From, We Shoot at Cops'

Bar Video -https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/video-surfaces-of-dismissed-tennessee-lb-jeremy-banks-allegedly-harassing-woman-outside-bar/

There are probably more I forgot about. No surprise people do not believe the explanation of the absence.
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JB may be a thug.


But, he is OUR thug!


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