Jermaine Burton Forgives Himself For Taking Swings At Vol Fan

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SpookyAction said:
Sociologists have been studying the dropping crime rate for a couple of decades.
I studied it in grad school for two years.
The simple fact is crime rates are way down and the raw number of violent crimes are way down since the 90s.
Here is the FBI data.
It is the same. There has been a significant recent uptick during Covid, staring in 2020.
Federal Bureau of Investigations Crime Data Explorer
Go to filters, select New York state and then New York City for Agency Select
Scroll down to Summary Crime reported by the New York City Police Department 1990-2021
input from 1990 or whatever year you wish to 2021, then crime select all violent crime, or any crime listed, practically all of them trend down over time in almost all local agencies you can choose. An exception in some locales is rape and sexual assault rising because the crime is reported in more instances as the stigma is less than the past.View attachment 528687
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Crime went down in New York because of 3 words..... Stop and frisk. Thank you Bernie and Rudy G.
 
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vols40 said:
My take was not that there aren't incredibly amazing people out there now my take is that it's way more rare to see that today. Nothing more implied so not sure how you took that to serial killers it's not helpful to your argument. It was also not a knock on the younger generation. At no point in my post did I mention that. I can see this on all generations of people.

And since you mentioned it maybe it has something to do with how the public education system has "educated" our kids the past 40 years? Now we have a school in Virginia (Thomas Jefferson?) that intentionally withheld information that students were receiving merit scholarship awards because school officials were afraid of how it would make students "feel" who didn't qualify.
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vols40 said:
How difficult it must be for people of the WWII generation to see sacrifice of oneself almost non existent in their lifetime.
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Big difference between "way more rare" and "almost non existent".

I am an actual teacher and work with rich, poor, gifted, slow and challenged children. Many have parents in jail or prison, 1/3 of our school children lives with grandparents or other family members besides parents. It is a low income school district and I see children being as courteous, giving, compassionate and self-sacrificing as my classmates were in 1990 when I graduated from High School. My kids aren't worse than my classmates ever were. There are fewer drugs in the school than when I was in Jr.High and High school. Fewer fights happening for sure. They are not as socially interactive, but that has a lot to do with video games and social media. There is little bullying at our school due to proactive staff, but there is more social media bullying.

I googled that Virginia school. It is a weird thing to do, withholding awards to not hurt other kids. I will wager almost all schools are just like mine. We present all academic awards in assemblies with all students present, and have the parents and local newspaper there to take pictures and write a story about all of the great things our students have achieved.

There are 97,568 public schools in the USA (2021) and there are always going to be a few goobs with such a large sample size. It is ridiculous to judge the 98K schools and 3,684,000 teachers by these few infuriating examples of a situation handled badly. Most problems I see from children are a reflection of their parents, not the school or education system.

It is misguided to take Mr. Burton's actions and leap to saying self-sacrifice is almost non existent today.

How many of us on this forum have great kids who will sacrifice to help others or make something better?
I bet a big majority of us would have lots of stories of our children doing great things that make us proud.
 
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vols40 said:
Crime went down in New York because of 3 words..... Stop and frisk. Thank you Bernie and Rudy G.
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Then why did crime rates also go down across the USA at the same time?
NYC Police's Stop and Frisk ended in 2013 and crime rates continued to go down.
 
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SpookyAction said:
Most young people I know are incredible. In my public school, there are hundreds of young people doing public service in nursing homes or Habitat for Humanity, etc.
Our own team is full of young men with the right heart.
Most kids on the Crimson Tide sidelines are amazing people.

Most organizations have trash people around.

The university's angelic lawyers told them what to say with a united front.
The university is probably really upset he said anything off script, and of course, the statement is pretty damaging to Burton's image (which the BAMA worked hard to frame up). That is who he is. It doesn't paint his whole generation as jerks.

Are the baby boomer's the most homicidal, since Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgway were so evil?
Take that as an equivalent statement to saying self sacrifice is almost non-existent based on Burton's actions and statement.
The violent crime statistics are lower today than any time in the last 40 years.
Would never know that watching certain news channels.



Chart is number of violent crimes per 100,000 people
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If your running for DA in some progressive city please keep telling your potential voters this! If not, just admit this kid played the victim card when he was actually a real JERK!! Lay off the politic's we know how smart you are!
 
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SpookyAction said:
Sociologists have been studying the dropping crime rate for a couple of decades.
I studied it in grad school for two years.
The simple fact is crime rates are way down and the raw number of violent crimes are way down since the 90s.
Here is the FBI data.
It is the same. There has been a significant recent uptick during Covid, staring in 2020.
Federal Bureau of Investigations Crime Data Explorer
Go to filters, select New York state and then New York City for Agency Select
Scroll down to Summary Crime reported by the New York City Police Department 1990-2021
input from 1990 or whatever year you wish to 2021, then crime select all violent crime, or any crime listed, practically all of them trend down over time in almost all local agencies you can choose. An exception in some locales is rape and sexual assault rising because the crime is reported in more instances as the stigma is less than the past.View attachment 528687
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Jesus man, unless you are running for a progressive DA position give it a rest! The kid played the victim card instead of manning up Speaks volumes to his character
 
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SpookyAction said:
Then why did crime rates also go down across the USA at the same time?
NYC Police's Stop and Frisk ended in 2013 and crime rates continued to go down.
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You cited new York. I cited two people who were very much involved in the reason for the decrease in crime. And your right it did continue to go down. But do you feel safe now waiting on the subway in New York?
 
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GAVol said:
I really don’t get what the point of him speaking about it was supposed to be.
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I guess he was asked about it after the Sugar Bowl. All the articles I've found on it are vague on exactly what he was asked.
 
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SpookyAction said:
Big difference between "way more rare" and "almost non existent".

I am an actual teacher and work with rich, poor, gifted, slow and challenged children. Many have parents in jail or prison, 1/3 of our school children lives with grandparents or other family members besides parents. It is a low income school district and I see children being as courteous, giving, compassionate and self-sacrificing as my classmates were in 1990 when I graduated from High School. My kids aren't worse than my classmates ever were. There are fewer drugs in the school than when I was in Jr.High and High school. Fewer fights happening for sure. They are not as socially interactive, but that has a lot to do with video games and social media. There is little bullying at our school due to proactive staff, but there is more social media bullying.

I googled that Virginia school. It is a weird thing to do, withholding awards to not hurt other kids. I will wager almost all schools are just like mine. We present all academic awards in assemblies with all students present, and have the parents and local newspaper there to take pictures and write a story about all of the great things our students have achieved.

There are 97,568 public schools in the USA (2021) and there are always going to be a few goobs with such a large sample size. It is ridiculous to judge the 98K schools and 3,684,000 teachers by these few infuriating examples of a situation handled badly. Most problems I see from children are a reflection of their parents, not the school or education system.

It is misguided to take Mr. Burton's actions and leap to saying self-sacrifice is almost non existent today.

How many of us on this forum have great kids who will sacrifice to help others or make something better?
I bet a big majority of us would have lots of stories of our children doing great things that make us proud.
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I never said that Mr Kotter (kidding). I responded to a post whose response to Burtons ridiculous response of forgiving himself. Response was it's a result of the me generation. Surely a highly skilled educator posses the ability to read.

And I know several teachers that are wonderful teachers. My take on that is it starts with those of you on the front line to police yourselves and out these lunatics who are indoctrinating instead of educating. Secondly you could really help the entire country by telling these worthless teachers unions to have a coke and a smile.
 
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All high school thug football players probably want to go to Alabama so they can do what they want to.
 
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Voltopia said:
Alabama’s Jermaine Burton Addresses Incident at Tennessee With Field-Storming Woman - Sports Illustrated

“I can’t hold that against myself forever. But a mistake is a mistake. You move past it. I’m not going to let situation frame me as a person or shape me as a person because I know who I am, and my team knows who I am.”

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F that guy.
 
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He's either going to be a future Aaron Hernandez or end up in a worse place. He's not good enough for the NFL.
 
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SpookyAction said:
Big difference between "way more rare" and "almost non existent".

I am an actual teacher and work with rich, poor, gifted, slow and challenged children. Many have parents in jail or prison, 1/3 of our school children lives with grandparents or other family members besides parents. It is a low income school district and I see children being as courteous, giving, compassionate and self-sacrificing as my classmates were in 1990 when I graduated from High School. My kids aren't worse than my classmates ever were. There are fewer drugs in the school than when I was in Jr.High and High school. Fewer fights happening for sure. They are not as socially interactive, but that has a lot to do with video games and social media. There is little bullying at our school due to proactive staff, but there is more social media bullying.

I googled that Virginia school. It is a weird thing to do, withholding awards to not hurt other kids. I will wager almost all schools are just like mine. We present all academic awards in assemblies with all students present, and have the parents and local newspaper there to take pictures and write a story about all of the great things our students have achieved.

There are 97,568 public schools in the USA (2021) and there are always going to be a few goobs with such a large sample size. It is ridiculous to judge the 98K schools and 3,684,000 teachers by these few infuriating examples of a situation handled badly. Most problems I see from children are a reflection of their parents, not the school or education system.

It is misguided to take Mr. Burton's actions and leap to saying self-sacrifice is almost non existent today.

How many of us on this forum have great kids who will sacrifice to help others or make something better?
I bet a big majority of us would have lots of stories of our children doing great things that make us proud.
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This was a thread about a thug who hit a girl and some others, with no repercussions. Most on here don't want to take the time to research to refute your hobby horse stats. But, about everyone can look around themselves and see the state of the world and country quite clearly. Maybe social moralizing is better suited for a political or other forum.
 
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Voltopia said:
Alabama’s Jermaine Burton Addresses Incident at Tennessee With Field-Storming Woman - Sports Illustrated

“I can’t hold that against myself forever. But a mistake is a mistake. You move past it. I’m not going to let situation frame me as a person or shape me as a person because I know who I am, and my team knows who I am.”

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Not surprising, I know, but I just wanted to document the remarkable humility displayed in this situation.
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Such an humble young man. He paid the consequences of assaulting a young woman and realizes his errors after corrective actions were made. He’ll never make such a mistake again because he learned his lesson after receiving all the corrective discipline……(the font is blue, y’all). Also, the Alabama school where I go told me that I have make sure I know where the cameras is and I learned a lot from that. Next time I hit a girl in the back, I’m gonna know there ain’t no cameras around. Just a huge learning experience that I ain’t got the whole time I’s down here. Mad apology to the Elephant faithful. Row tide
 
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Little B**** made boy.

Excuse me.

Let's all be sure to retweet/tweet his situation around the draft next year. Maybe we can remind the NFL teams what kind of person he is.
 
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DaddyChad said:
And his POS coach.

Saban had many people’s respect but that kind of goes out the window when you make excuses for deplorable behavior like Burton’s.
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I wonder how ole nick would feel is an opposing player hit his ms terry or his daughter like that? Put yourself in that sport czar. I know you think you and your players play by different rules cause you are turds but get real old man.
 
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0311 said:
Jesus man, unless you are running for a progressive DA position give it a rest! The kid played the victim card instead of manning up Speaks volumes to his character
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HIS character. I think you got cross ways when you tried to generalize it across an entire generation.
 
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