Joe Biden impeachment inquiry

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turbovol said:
Jared Kushner is the poster boy for family corruption. First, the gangster hired him as a top advisor even though he had ZERO government
experience or government expertise. Blatant nepotism. Our intelligence agencies rightly did not want to give Kushner a security clearance, but relented eventually after pressure from the gangster. Kusher tried to set up a secret communications channel with the Russians--through their embassy in D.C.---but was caught by our intelligence agencies discussing the matter with the Russian ambassador.

Kushner used his White House position to persuade the Qatari Sovereign Wealthy Fund to lend him a huge amount of money to bail
out his terrible investment in 666 Fifth Avenue. Then, when leaving office, the Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund gave $2 BILLION dollars
to Kusher for some investment fund he's just started. He has no expertise in venture capital.

So if you want to talk about real family corruption, start at the top with the gangster and Jared Kushner.
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That’s awesome! Let’s go in order first just to stay consistent as we proceed. Time as VP for racist Uncle Joe was well before Jared arrived. Aren’t gangsters paid in percentages like 10-20%?
 
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volfanhill said:
Why does their claim not match what the poll says ? Why would you continue to visit these websites when the lie is soooooo blatantly obvious?
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I opened the article and laughed at the disparity of the tweet/headline vs the poll data.

41% support an impeachment inquiry, around 34% oppose and around 24% undecided. That somehow adds up to a majority of Americans support actual impeachment
 
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@lawgator1 ...if you were prosecuting a drug dealer....and he and his dad shared an account, both used the account and money from the drug deals were put into the account they shared, then you found out his dad went had met and spoke with the people who bought the drugs...would that make the father an accomplice?? And his involvement illegal
 
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whodeycin85 said:
@lawgator1 ...if you were prosecuting a drug dealer....and he and his dad shared an account, both used the account and money from the drug deals were put into the account they shared, then you found out his dad went had met and spoke with the people who bought the drugs...would that make the father an accomplice?? And his involvement illegal
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Proof that he had an account with Hunter and that Joe Biden took money out of it?

Nope.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Would the emails not be proof??? Or at least enough for a investigation???
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The ones I have seen are pretty lame "proof" of anything.

And I don't understand this sudden desire for the GOP to know a President's personal finances when they repeatedly defended Trump's ever changing excuses about revealing his own such records. Over and over and over again. Now, suddenly, its worth at least an investigation?

Weaksauce.

And it doesn't matter what it shows because the GOP will grossly overclaim it all. They can't help themselves because they are desperate to retaliate for Trumplestilskin.

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lawgator1 said:
The ones I have seen are pretty lame "proof" of anything.

And I don't understand this sudden desire for the GOP to know a President's personal finances when they repeatedly defended Trump's ever changing excuses about revealing his own such records. Over and over and over again. Now, suddenly, its worth at least an investigation?

Weaksauce.

And it doesn't matter what it shows because the GOP will grossly overclaim it all. They can't help themselves because they are desperate to retaliate for Trumplestilskin.

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I'm pretty sure it has to do with the VP at the time holding a US policy position to Ukraine unless the investigator of Burisma is fired, who happens to be investigating the VP son...he is on video doing this and is verified by witnesses....that is illegal...that's the issue..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the VP at the time holding a US policy position to Ukraine unless the investigator of Burisma is fired, who happens to be investigating the VP son...he is on video doing this and is verified by witnesses....that is illegal...that's the issue..
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That has been explained repeatedly and was not related to Hunter Biden. That whole theory was debunked long ago.

But your reference to it proves my point. Whatever the actual facts are, you will tweak them and then tweak them a bit more, then a bit more, then a bit more, until reality is no longer recognizable.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That has been explained repeatedly and was not related to Hunter Biden. That whole theory was debunked long ago.

But your reference to it proves my point. Whatever the actual facts are, you will tweak them and then tweak them a bit more, then a bit more, then a bit more, until reality is no longer recognizable.
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Victor shokin verified that was why he was fired...do witness and video not count as proof anymore?? Did Joe say he would with hold US funding unless what he wanted was done,??? That is illegal...Hunters involvement is secondary...and suspect. There is not twisting. Joe said that on tape correct???
 
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lawgator1 said:
The ones I have seen are pretty lame "proof" of anything.

And I don't understand this sudden desire for the GOP to know a President's personal finances when they repeatedly defended Trump's ever changing excuses about revealing his own such records. Over and over and over again. Now, suddenly, its worth at least an investigation?
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bolded is rich and typical. you were the head cheerleader for digging into Trump's finances; seems you would be cheerleading this effort as well.
 
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volinbham said:
bolded is rich and typical. you were the head cheerleader for digging into Trump's finances; seems you would be cheerleading this effort as well.
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Don't misunderstand, I actually don't mind. I think all of a President's finances should be an open book if for no other reason than to stave off baseless conjecture, as we have now (and had with Trump). I frankly think that the two major parties should require it at some point in the nomination schedule so that they don't inadvertently put up someone with an actual major financial problem.

Dressing it up as an "impeachment inquiry" with Biden is a pretty obvious attempt to overdramatize things. And in the end my pointing this out has much more to do with noting the GOP's complete about-face and hypocrisy on revealing finances than what are actually in Joe's.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The Jesse Watters clip above is a fascinating direction in this discovery inquiry. Advanced money laundering techniques used to hide high level criminal activity.
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He's trying desperately to matter, to fill the shoes of Tucker. But he'll fail in the end because his sarcastic whining is so off putting.
 
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He says people can hide cash.

Then he says "House investigators say foreigners may have laundered up to $50 million into Biden family accounts, so where'd the money go?" Followed by a series of claims about Hunter Biden getting luxury gifts.

This is the kind of superficial, bogus logic masquerading as fact that Fox engages in routinely. Who are the House investigators saying this? Where do they get this $50 million figure? What is the proof anyone laundered the money into an account having anything to do with Joe Biden?

The answer is none. There is no proof of any of that. But what Watters does here, and as
I say it is the norm at Fox, is to loosely re-characterize something someone else has said, do nothing to verify any actual statement, don't identify who made it, swiftly pretend its fact, and pose a question of "where'd the money go?" as if the facts are just assumed.

As a former journalist turned attorney it is infuriating and the outrage I have for its dismal lack of foundation is matched only by my wonderment that so many people night in and night out fall for it, without taking even a second to go "hey wait, where is this coming from? what is this $50 million? Laundered? By whom and for what purpose?"

It does such a disservice to the country and to the viewers to dress up utter speculation as fact like this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He says people can hide cash.

Then he says "House investigators say foreigners may have laundered up to $50 million into Biden family accounts, so where'd the money go?" Followed by a series of claims about Hunter Biden getting luxury gifts.

This is the kind of superficial, bogus logic masquerading as fact that Fox engages in routinely. Who are the House investigators saying this? Where do they get this $50 million figure? What is the proof anyone laundered the money into an account having anything to do with Joe Biden?

The answer is none. There is no proof of any of that. But what Watters does here, and as
I say it is the norm at Fox, is to loosely re-characterize something someone else has said, do nothing to verify any actual statement, don't identify who made it, swiftly pretend its fact, and pose a question of "where'd the money go?" as if the facts are just assumed.

As a former journalist turned attorney it is infuriating and the outrage I have for its dismal lack of foundation is matched only by my wonderment that so many people night in and night out fall for it, without taking even a second to go "hey wait, where is this coming from? what is this $50 million? Laundered? By whom and for what purpose?"

It does such a disservice to the country and to the viewers to dress up utter speculation as fact like this.
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You should be constantly outraged at yourself then. Everybody but you sees your double standard. Told time and time again and fail to acknowledge it. Even double down on it.

It is sad at this point.
 
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Septic said:
Joe been indicted yet?
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No, but some people are saying....

Here is an article which studied Trump's speech patterns and they detected, among other things, his penchant for non attributing of statements of fact:

General

  • A lot of people are saying …
  • People think it’s going to happen.
  • Everybody’s talking about it.
  • They are saying …
  • Everyone is now saying …
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Very accurate and worth the quick read as you'll recognize his speech crutches to evade any sincere quesiton of anything he is saying.

www.theatlantic.com

How to Talk Like Trump

A short guide to speaking the president’s dialect
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
 
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lawgator1 said:
He says people can hide cash.

Then he says "House investigators say foreigners may have laundered up to $50 million into Biden family accounts, so where'd the money go?" Followed by a series of claims about Hunter Biden getting luxury gifts.

This is the kind of superficial, bogus logic masquerading as fact that Fox engages in routinely. Who are the House investigators saying this? Where do they get this $50 million figure? What is the proof anyone laundered the money into an account having anything to do with Joe Biden?

The answer is none. There is no proof of any of that. But what Watters does here, and as
I say it is the norm at Fox, is to loosely re-characterize something someone else has said, do nothing to verify any actual statement, don't identify who made it, swiftly pretend its fact, and pose a question of "where'd the money go?" as if the facts are just assumed.

As a former journalist turned attorney it is infuriating and the outrage I have for its dismal lack of foundation is matched only by my wonderment that so many people night in and night out fall for it, without taking even a second to go "hey wait, where is this coming from? what is this $50 million? Laundered? By whom and for what purpose?"

It does such a disservice to the country and to the viewers to dress up utter speculation as fact like this.
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Are you out of your box of Kleenex yet? You'll need plenty more from here on out.
LOL .... it's an inquiry that's to take place ..... not the actual hanging for treason yet.
Calm down Nancy. You have no idea just yet to see what's to happen to old grand paw Biden.
 
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lawgator1 said:
He says people can hide cash.

Then he says "House investigators say foreigners may have laundered up to $50 million into Biden family accounts, so where'd the money go?" Followed by a series of claims about Hunter Biden getting luxury gifts.

This is the kind of superficial, bogus logic masquerading as fact that Fox engages in routinely. Who are the House investigators saying this? Where do they get this $50 million figure? What is the proof anyone laundered the money into an account having anything to do with Joe Biden?

The answer is none. There is no proof of any of that. But what Watters does here, and as
I say it is the norm at Fox, is to loosely re-characterize something someone else has said, do nothing to verify any actual statement, don't identify who made it, swiftly pretend its fact, and pose a question of "where'd the money go?" as if the facts are just assumed.

As a former journalist turned attorney it is infuriating and the outrage I have for its dismal lack of foundation is matched only by my wonderment that so many people night in and night out fall for it, without taking even a second to go "hey wait, where is this coming from? what is this $50 million? Laundered? By whom and for what purpose?"

It does such a disservice to the country and to the viewers to dress up utter speculation as fact like this.
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Journalist? You must be kidding.

Guess we'll find out huh? I feel we'll so your position slide further into the abyss?
 
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