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Great post, don't disagree with anything you said but got a question with the AST/TO stats. That's not technically the ratio is it? That's just their AST/TO stats, wouldn't the ratio be their assist # per 1 turnover? Maybe I've always read that wrong?Not to berate the point, but for an interesting comparison, contrast his 2020-21 numbers to those of Mac McClung.
Tyreke Key:
5.8 made FGs/gm on 12.3 attempts (47%)
1.3 made 3-pt FGs/gm on 4.3 attempts (32%)
4.3 made FTs/gm on 5.1 attempts (84%)
2.0:1.8 Asst:TO ratio
1.1 stls/gm
Mac McClung:
5.1 made FGs/gm on 12.2 attempts (42%)
1.6 made 3-pt FGs/gm on 4.7 attempts (34%)
3.7 made FTs/gm on 4.7 attempts (79%)
2.1:1.9 Asst:TO ratio
0.8 stls/gm
Not a heavily noticeable difference in their respective offensive efficiency and McClung (who I am also not in favor of) did it against much better competition. Advanced metrics paint a similar picture, as well...
Offensive win shares...Key: 2.5, McClung: 2.3
Defensive win shares...Key: 1.2, McClung: 1.4
Total win shares...Key: 3.7, McClung 3.7
Anyone not in favor of adding Mac would seemingly have a difficult case to make for adding Key. For our current team, if I had to make a choice, choosing between the two would be tough, but in a vacuum, I think I'd take McClung.
That game was pretty legendary. Not many better performances that we’ve seen from a vol. couldn’t have happened to a better representative of UT, or against a better opponent.Fulkerson returning to UT
This makes all the better that Fulky is coming back. The Wild Kittens are still salty about that ass whooping he gave then at Rupp.
Also it's funny that UK fans are saying BHH was theirs if Cal wanted him and that he was a lock.
Great post here! The one thing that stands out to me on Key... the rebounding numbers. That's something you know Barnes loves. That's probably the main difference imo.Not to berate the point, but for an interesting comparison, contrast his 2020-21 numbers to those of Mac McClung.
Tyreke Key:
5.8 made FGs/gm on 12.3 attempts (47%)
1.3 made 3-pt FGs/gm on 4.3 attempts (32%)
4.3 made FTs/gm on 5.1 attempts (84%)
2.0:1.8 Asst:TO ratio
1.1 stls/gm
Mac McClung:
5.1 made FGs/gm on 12.2 attempts (42%)
1.6 made 3-pt FGs/gm on 4.7 attempts (34%)
3.7 made FTs/gm on 4.7 attempts (79%)
2.1:1.9 Asst:TO ratio
0.8 stls/gm
Not a heavily noticeable difference in their respective offensive efficiency and McClung (who I am also not in favor of) did it against much better competition. Advanced metrics paint a similar picture, as well...
Offensive win shares...Key: 2.5, McClung: 2.3
Defensive win shares...Key: 1.2, McClung: 1.4
Total win shares...Key: 3.7, McClung 3.7
Anyone not in favor of adding Mac would seemingly have a difficult case to make for adding Key. For our current team, if I had to make a choice, choosing between the two would be tough, but in a vacuum, I think I'd take McClung.
Yes, the math would actually be total Asststotal TOs to 1.Great post, don't disagree with anything you said but got a question with the AST/TO stats. That's not technically the ratio is it? That's just their AST/TO stats, wouldn't the ratio be their assist # per 1 turnover? Maybe I've always read that wrong?
Agree, he is a much better rebounder, and that usually translates across competition, but for whatever reason, it didn’t with Anosike, and it was his specialty. Just weird.Great post here! The one thing that stands out to me on Key... the rebounding numbers. That's something you know Barnes loves. That's probably the main difference imo.
Could Fulky leave as the Vol with the most wins against UK.....not to jinx us.Fulkerson returning to UT
This makes all the better that Fulky is coming back. The Wild Kittens are still salty about that ass whooping he gave then at Rupp.
Also it's funny that UK fans are saying BHH was theirs if Cal wanted him and that he was a lock.
Thanks, I wasn't trying to nitpick just trying to figure out if I'd been reading those wrong all this time haha.Yes, the math would actually be total Asststotal TOs to 1.
Even if you take the seasonal average numbers I listed for each guy, and divide them, it comes out the same.
So, for Key it is 1.146 to 1, and McClung is 1.148 to 1.
But yes, what I listed is technically a comparison and not a direct ratio.