John Mayer vs Jack White

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thehardknoxlife said:
I'm not following. That's the last band it would remind me of.
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Not the band itself, the heavy, short chords. Primus isn't close to the same level musically but there are similarities in the guitar in that particular song.
 
#27
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DinkinFlicka said:
Mayer = cookie cutter.

White = unconventional, unorthodox, original.

The musician that takes a lot of risks and manages to pull it off well obviously has a deep understanding for the music he plays.

You're seriously asking me how I can say the composer of "Your Body Is A Wonderland" is less of a risk taker than the genius behind "Icky Thump?"
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Easy to take one song out of his catalog and make an opinion...calling Myer cookie-cutter is hilarious, there is a reason guys like B.B., Buddy Guy and Clapton WANT to play with him.

You can only dream of being as good as him.

I bet most people on here have not even heard his entire catalog and are making assumptions based off of a few radio friendly songs.

Jack White was of course going to be the trendy pick, the dude can't sing and he isn't half the guitar player Mayer is.
 
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KB5252 said:
Not the band itself, the heavy, short chords. Primus isn't close to the same level musically but there are similarities in the guitar in that particular song.
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Not close?

Les Claypool is a better bassist then Jack White is a guitarist.
 
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GahLee said:
Easy to take one song out of his catalog and make an opinion...calling Myer cookie-cutter is hilarious, there is a reason guys like B.B., Buddy Guy and Clapton WANT to play with him.

You can only dream of being as good as him.

I bet most people on here have not even heard his entire catalog and making assumptions based off of a few radio friendly songs.

Jack White was of course going to be the trendy pick, the dude can't sing and he isn't half the guitar player Mayer is.
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I think that makes what Jack has done with his career that much more impressive. I agree he isn't the best singer or guitar player, but what he does with what he has is remarkable. I think he has as many Grammy wins as Mayer with 1/2 the physical talent.
 
#31
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thehardknoxlife said:
I think that makes what Jack has done with his career that much more impressive. I agree he isn't the best singer or guitar player, but what he does with what he has is remarkable. I think he has as many Grammy wins as Mayer with 1/2 the physical talent.
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Grammy's are meaningless...they mean nothing.

Lots of people succeed with minimal musical talent...not saying that he does, he is talented for sure.

Mullet really just wanted to see some people argue, like I said earlier, it is almost impossible to compare them.

Like comparing Clapton to Iggy Pop.
 
#32
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GahLee said:
Not close?

Les Claypool is a better bassist then Jack White is a guitarist.
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I took that statement too far, I should have stopped at talking about the blues riffs they both employ, should never have used the word musically.
 
#33
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rpvol said:
i'll have to agree with that statement. les claypool does things on bass that boggle the mind.
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He's not Cliff Burton but he is an outstanding bass player. Actually tried to replace Burton after his untimely death but was passed over.

For Jason Newsted..................cricket.................cricket.............
 
#34
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My biggest complaint about Mayer is that he can't seem to decide on who he wants to be. Is he a pop star or is an accomplished guitar hero? On one hand he writes bad songs about women and on the other he tries to be Eric Clapton(he even said so himself). In my mind both of those are pretty bad. It doesn't make any sense. As a fan, I don't think you can just focus on one and ignore the other.

Mayer, to me, has always been very technical, robotic, calculated, and showy.

White is more organic, genuine, emotive, and artistic.

They are two completely different artists and the more I think about it, it sounds kind of like a Elvis vs. Beatles type of argument. You can tell a lot about someone based on how they answer this question.
 
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Roughneck said:
My biggest complaint about Mayer is that he can't seem to decide on who he wants to be. Is he a pop star or is an accomplished guitar hero? On one hand he writes bad songs about women and on the other he tries to be Eric Clapton(he even said so himself). In my mind both of those are pretty bad. It doesn't make any sense. As a fan, I don't think you can just focus on one and ignore the other.

Mayer, to me, has always been very technical, robotic, calculated, and showy.

White is more organic, genuine, emotive, and artistic.

They are two completely different artists and the more I think about it, it sounds kind of like a Elvis vs. Beatles type of argument. You can tell a lot about someone based on how they answer this question.
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I can agree with this, I have been saying all along that you can't compare them, they aren't the same in any way.

Elvis/Beatles is a pretty good comparison.

He has wrote a few cheesy songs but it has been awhile since he has done so, I think his songwriting has improved to the point of greatness, he is that good to me.

I can see Mayer working on a song for years, revising it, changing the harmony and so forth. Jack White could walk into the studio, hit 3 chords and have a good song.
 
#36
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Lol at anyone who thinks JW is in JM's realm when it comes to actual playing. Also I do not think it's fair to call Continuum or Battle Studies cookie cutter. Just because something hits the top 40 doesn't make it cookie cutter.
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And I do think JW is great. I enjoy his music and I think the comparison is ridiculous.
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#38
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GahLee said:
He's not Cliff Burton but he is an outstanding bass player. Actually tried to replace Burton after his untimely death but was passed over.

For Jason Newsted..................cricket.................cricket.............
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that's debateable. i can see why he may have been passed over. their styles are very different.

i agree newstead is an average bass player, but i'm not sure metallica needed much more.
 
#39
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rpvol said:
that's debateable. i can see why he may have been passed over. their styles are very different.

i agree newstead is an average bass player, but i'm not sure metallica needed much more.
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I know man, Jason isn't half the player Les is...but Metallica needed someone like Jason, someone that James could say, ok, you play this...Les wasn't that guy.
 
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dickens821 said:
Lol at anyone who thinks JW is in JM's realm when it comes to actual playing. Also I do not think it's fair to call Continuum or Battle Studies cookie cutter. Just because something hits the top 40 doesn't make it cookie cutter.
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Continuum/Battle Studies are very deep and very personal records that are outstanding in my mind.

I think most of the hate for Mayer comes from him not having a filter and coming off as a tool, that and he bangs all the girls we wish we could.
 
#41
#41
not to derail the thread, but primus or les claypool live is a thing of beauty. if you haven't seen them and have the opportunity to, do it.
 
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thehardknoxlife said:
I think that makes what Jack has done with his career that much more impressive. I agree he isn't the best singer or guitar player, but what he does with what he has is remarkable. I think he has as many Grammy wins as Mayer with 1/2 the physical talent.
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Mayer's voice, like his guitar playing, is cookie cutter. He takes zero risks.

Jack's not here to make pretty songs... listen to the Sonics, The Kinks, and Little Richard. They're just here to rock out, make noise, and get the blood pumping.

His voice is perfect for the music he makes, and his guitar playing is unlike anyone in the genre. Although is seldom seen in his studio, his live guitar playing easily puts him in my top 50.
 
#43
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DinkinFlicka said:
Mayer's voice, like his guitar playing, is cookie cutter. He takes zero risks.

Jack's not here to make pretty songs... listen to the Sonics, The Kinks, and Little Richard. They're just here to rock out, make noise, and get the blood pumping.

His voice is perfect for the music he makes, and his guitar playing is unlike anyone in the genre. Although is seldom seen in his studio, his live guitar playing easily puts him in my top 50.
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Who says you have to take risks? The guy plays the music he wants to hear. Nothing cookie-cutter about him IMO.
 
#45
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DinkinFlicka said:
Dude, you're a guitarist. Taking risks and giving birth to new sounds is how music should be.
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Not everybody is going to be a groundbreaking artist, Mayer is certainly not that type of artist but he is still a great artist IMO.
 
#46
#46
DinkinFlicka said:
Tennessee is where he got his lift off.

Also, three words: Memphis and Franklin. I've heard him at multiple concerts attributing his inspiration to the former and his love for the state to the latter. This is where he calls home.
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The White Stripes had worldwide popularity and JW was one of the repected musicians before he moved to Nashville.
 
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