Jordan Peterson interview

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Once I started watching her interview, I had to stop only after a minute. I couldn't understand what she's saying.
It would be nice if subtitles were on the screen for me to be able to read along while she's speaking.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Once I started watching her interview, I had to stop only after a minute. I couldn't understand what she's saying.
It would be nice if subtitles were on the screen for me to be able to read along while she's speaking.
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There's a button to turn them on in the corner. Unfortunately, they're computer generated so they're a hot mess.
 
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volinbham said:
didn't the comment you quoted provide the poster's rationale?
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Seems odd that entertainment value would be the bar we measure public intellectuals by. My limited exposure to him has not impressed me. Despite railing against it, he doesn't seem to know what postmodernism is. In fact, he doesn't really seem to know much of anything about philosophy. That wouldn't be an issue, since he's a psychologist, except he likes to talk like he does know something about it.
 
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Wafflestomper said:
What makes him great?
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In short, the way that he attributes much of the worlds problem to our tendencies to behave as a collective. Think about our current race situation. It’s hard to go long before being bombarded with identity politics, there doesn’t seem to be much individual thought. It’s hard to express my thoughts on VOL nation while working, but I suggest you look him up. He’s fascinating. To me he represents what classical liberalism used to be.
 
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Wafflestomper said:
Seems odd that entertainment value would be the bar we measure public intellectuals by. My limited exposure to him has not impressed me. Despite railing against it, he doesn't seem to know what postmodernism is. In fact, he doesn't really seem to know much of anything about philosophy. That wouldn't be an issue, since he's a psychologist, except he likes to talk like he does know something about it.
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I didn’t say he’s great because he’s entertaining. It was just my opinion that he is also entertaining.
 
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Wafflestomper said:
What makes him great?
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There’s more comprehensive material out there than a 3 minute clip from Joe Rogans show, but I suspect you probably wouldn’t care to sit through an hour log lecture because someone recommended it on a message board. Anyway I find what he’s saying particularly relevant to where we find ourselves today
 
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I don't have a problem with Jordan Peterson. I either agree or don't necessarily disagree with 90%+ of what he says, but I know of no new ideas coming from him, so I have trouble listing him as a "last great intellectual". He mostly just talks about things that seem pretty self evident, or that I've heard plenty of others say, JP just says them in a really smart, convincing way.

However, I must add the disclaimer that I've only spent about 10 hrs of my time with him, so maybe he does offer what I say he is missing, but he didn't offer it in the 10 hrs, so I moved on with my life.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't have a problem with Jordan Peterson. I either agree or don't necessarily disagree with 90%+ of what he says, but I know of no new ideas coming from him, so I have trouble listing him as a "last great intellectual". He mostly just talks about things that seem pretty self evident, or that I've heard plenty of others say, JP just says them in a really smart, convincing way.

However, I must add the disclaimer that I've only spent about 10 hrs of my time with him, so maybe he does offer what I say he is missing, but he didn't offer it in the 10 hrs, so I moved on with my life.
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It’s his delivery as much as it is the content. When he lays it out there’s not much of a rational rebuttal left to make…..if you thought you had one.
 
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I'd take her out to Sizzler, even being a sex slave. It was in China so I'd probably not even notice.
 
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C-south said:
It’s his delivery as much as it is the content. When he lays it out there’s not much of a rational rebuttal left to make…..if you thought you had one.
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I guess the only real problem I have with him is that he harps on tribalism, victim mentality, etc. which are big problems on the right, too, but he mostly picks on the left. This is probably partly because it's easier to pick on the left, but also because the right is paying the bills.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I guess the only real problem I have with him is that he harps on tribalism, victim mentality, etc. which are big problems on the right, too, but he mostly picks on the left. This is probably partly because it's easier to pick on the left, but also because the right is paying the bills.
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I think it’s partially because as far as major policies and institutions go today the left is the bigger offender. He’s identified himself as a liberal believe it or not, he’s definitely not someone I would describe as right wing.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I guess the only real problem I have with him is that he harps on tribalism, victim mentality, etc. which are big problems on the right, too, but he mostly picks on the left. This is probably partly because it's easier to pick on the left, but also because the right is paying the bills.
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Not really. When a group on the right calls “white privilege” bs or refuse to call alphabets by a made up gender it is neither tribalism or a victim mentality. It is facts and logic.
 
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Wafflestomper said:
Seems odd that entertainment value would be the bar we measure public intellectuals by. My limited exposure to him has not impressed me. Despite railing against it, he doesn't seem to know what postmodernism is. In fact, he doesn't really seem to know much of anything about philosophy. That wouldn't be an issue, since he's a psychologist, except he likes to talk like he does know something about it.
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So you have made these observations from just a single video? Somehow I think you are describing yourself a little more than JP.
 
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C-south said:
Not really. When a group on the right calls “white privilege” bs or refuse to call alphabets by a made up gender it is neither tribalism or a victim mentality. It is facts and logic.
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So you don't think there are any white (males) that act like victims of wokeness and progressivism? A lot of white males sure sound like victims to me. You don't think nationalists are tribal? It's the very definition of tribal.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So you have made these observations from just a single video? Somehow I think you are describing yourself a little more than JP.
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I don't think I said anything like that, but how many videos does one need to watch to determine that he doesn't always seem to understand what he's railing against?
 
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n_huffhines said:
So you don't think there are any white (males) that act like victims of wokeness and progressivism? A lot of white males sure sound like victims to me. You don't think nationalists are tribal? It's the very definition of tribal.
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Are they being coddled by the .gov?
 
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n_huffhines said:
So you don't think there are any white (males) that act like victims of wokeness and progressivism? A lot of white males sure sound like victims to me. You don't think nationalists are tribal? It's the very definition of tribal.
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Why is preposterous to think that white men can also be victimized?
 
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