June Jobs Report: Election implications

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droski said:
the other argument i've heard is that carbon dating is all BS.
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That does nothing to explain relative dating, which is the original evidence for an ancient Earth. Carbon dating only goes back several thousand years, anyway.
 
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IPorange said:
I have a hard time believing Baker has never heard someone claim that dinosaurs died in the flood. That was the original explanation for the fossils.

As for using matter from other worlds... other worlds aren't in the Bible either. That just creates another problem.
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So when was this the traditional explanation? Was it in my lifetime? I truly had never heard of it. Though I didn't grow up in a traditional Christian household, so....
 
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nbakerld said:
So when was this the traditional explanation? Was it in my lifetime? I truly had never heard of it. Though I didn't grow up in a traditional Christian household, so....
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Google dinosaurs died in the flood. It's a highly common explanation.

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IPorange said:
Google dinosaurs died in the flood. It's a highly common explanation.

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I believe you, I'm just in shock that something so absurd is/was believed by such a large group. If dinosaurs existed at the time of Noah how are they not mentioned in the Bible? Or why would it say Noah had 2 of every beast (at least that's what I think it says)?
 
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You're familiar with the Mormon faith. I would think nothing would shock you after theogenesis.
 
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IPorange said:
You're familiar with the Mormon faith. I would think nothing would shock you after theogenesis.
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Hmmm. I don't even know what theogenesis is.

Mormons believe that the Bible isn't to be taken as literally as other Christians believe. Like when it says God created the world in 7 days, it's believed to be symbolic. No Mormon believes God literally created the world in 168 hours. They believe it was 7 periods of time. The first period could've taken a million years, or it could have been a week. Nobody knows. The point is it's not taken literally.

Mormons can reconcile the creation with fossil evidence because of the varying theories (none taught as doctrine). Some believe God created the world with matter from other worlds (wasn't aware this theory didn't exist to other Christians). Some believe God created Dinosaurs in the "first days" which maybe were millions of years. They died off before God created man. Pretty fun stuff.
 
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theogenesis is the belief that humans can become gods of their own planets, and that is what God ultimately wants of us. It's a tenant of Mormon faith.
 
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IPorange said:
theogenesis is the belief that humans can become gods of their own planets, and that is what God ultimately wants of us. It's a tenant of Mormon faith.
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Rents space at the Tabernacle?
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IPorange said:
theogenesis is the belief that humans can become gods of their own planets, and that is what God ultimately wants of us. It's a tenant of Mormon faith.
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I recognize this idea is weird, but truthfully why is it any weirder than the notion of a God in the first place? Where did God come from?
 
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#87
Didn't read the whole thread but why is an unemployment/reelection thread now a religion is dumb thread?

On the original topic - it is clear this POTUS has no clue about the economy. It's hard to imagine things would be any worse if he didn't do anything beyond TARP. His anti-business stance (him and his agencies) have torpedoed any possible positive effect the stimulus might have had.
 
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Who knew that King Midas had a kid brother named
Merdas? Now, Merdas had his own unique talent, in
that, everything he touched turned to er... not gold.

He imposed a Crapitalist economy in his short-lived
kingdom, but was deposed by his angry subjects when
they caught wind of his line of er... not the truth.
 
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volinbham said:
Didn't read the whole thread but why is an unemployment/reelection thread now a religion is dumb thread?

On the original topic - it is clear this POTUS has no clue about the economy. It's hard to imagine things would be any worse if he didn't do anything beyond TARP. His anti-business stance (him and his agencies) have torpedoed any possible positive effect the stimulus might have had.
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That's not what I'm advocating. I don't believe that. There are a lot of dumb people no matter where you look. Religion, academics, politics, etc. There are also much smarter people than I in each of those groups.
 
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volinbham said:
Didn't read the whole thread but why is an unemployment/reelection thread now a religion is dumb thread?

On the original topic - it is clear this POTUS has no clue about the economy. It's hard to imagine things would be any worse if he didn't do anything beyond TARP. His anti-business stance (him and his agencies) have torpedoed any possible positive effect the stimulus might have had.
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A momentary tangent. We shall overcome it.
 
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Good article by Krauthammer. Obama is trying to pretend like he is serious about the budget, and Krauthammer (who I think is a lib) is slamming him for it. My favorite part.

And what have been Obama’s own debt-reduction ideas? In last week’s news conference, he railed against the tax break for corporate jet owners — six times.

I did the math. If you collect that tax for the next 5,000 years — that is not a typo — it would equal the new debt Obama racked up last year alone. To put it another way, if we had levied this tax at the time of John the Baptist and collected it every year since we would have 500 years to go before we could offset half of the debt added by Obama last year alone.
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The Elmendorf Rule - The Washington Post
 
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Charles Krauthammer is most definitely not a liberal.

tune in to the PBS show Inside Washington and watch him tear apart liberals like Mark Shields and Eleanor Clift (among others)
 
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My question is: When are the tax breaks that were meant to stimulate the economy, and thus job creation, going to start working. It has been posited by pundits and posters alike that lower taxes on the wealthy spur economic growth. What gives? Where's the trickle-down?
 
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CSVol said:
My question is: When are the tax breaks that were meant to stimulate the economy, and thus job creation, going to start working. It has been posited by pundits and posters alike that lower taxes on the wealthy spur economic growth. What gives? Where's the trickle-down?
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Uh, they stimulated heavily after the post 9/11 swoon. overstimulated even.
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