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I heard we gave an offer to Cut? Friend of mine said he heard it on the radio.....Don't know if its true or not, hadn't heard anything about it wondering if any of you all might have?
 
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That rumor has been out there for about the past week and has been in various papers. I thik conventional wisdom is that it's a forgone conclusion and they are just working out the details.
 
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That's more or less what I was thinking, I haven't had time to read the papers with school and baseball workouts.....I hope they have offered and I hope we end up getting him
 
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IMO Fulmer should go after one of the up and coming OC's. Cut left ND due to health concerns and I just dont think he'll be around long.
 
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Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Nov 25, 2005 12:10 PM
IMO Fulmer should go after one of the up and coming OC's. Cut left ND due to health concerns and I just dont think he'll be around long.
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It would be a good idea in theory, but I can't think of any up-and-comers using the conservative-style Tennessee offense. There's plenty of talent around, Frank Cignetti, Paul Petrino, maybe Chris Petersen. But I can't think of any big prospects that do Tenn-style offense.
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Nov 25, 2005 4:28 PM
It would be a good idea in theory, but I can't think of any up-and-comers using the conservative-style Tennessee offense. There's plenty of talent around, Frank Cignetti, Paul Petrino, maybe Chris Petersen. But I can't think of any big prospects that do Tenn-style offense.
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Thats my point...now would be a good time to change offensive philosophies..especially while UT is not on top.
 
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I think the philosophy is fine, just so long as Fulmer makes sure he's always got a handful of players on the roster that have big play capability. You can play conservative, you just need to leave the open possibility of blowing it wide open to compliment. We have no big playmakers this season.
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Nov 25, 2005 4:37 PM
I think the philosophy is fine, just so long as Fulmer makes sure he's always got a handful of players on the roster that have big play capability. You can play conservative, you just need to leave the open possibility of blowing it wide open to compliment. We have no big playmakers this season.
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He better keep a top notched D as well.
 
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Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Nov 25, 2005 3:32 PM
Thats my point...now would be a good time to change offensive philosophies..especially while UT is not on top.
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That's been my hope since CRS stepped down. Cut is the 'safe' choice, but I was hoping that CPF would go for a complete overhaul of the Offense. It's going to be hard to win the SEC east with UGA, SoCar, and UF running offense's akin to supercharged V-8's and V-10's when our offense is akin to an I-6 diesel.
 
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I hear what you're saying, but I don't know that I'd call anybody in the SEC East supercharged on offense.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Nov 25, 2005 11:02 PM
I hear what you're saying, but I don't know that I'd call anybody in the SEC East supercharged on offense.
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Amen!!!
 
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Originally posted by JohnsonCityVol@Nov 25, 2005 11:01 PM
That's been my hope since CRS stepped down. Cut is the 'safe' choice, but I was hoping that CPF would go for a complete overhaul of the Offense. It's going to be hard to win the SEC east with UGA, SoCar, and UF running offense's akin to supercharged V-8's and V-10's when our offense is akin to an I-6 diesel.
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The fact that we almost beat all those teams you mentioned above proves that they arn't supercharged V-8's or V-10's. We don't need a super high scoring offense. I do agree we need to replace the diesel.
 
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Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Nov 25, 2005 2:10 PM
IMO Fulmer should go after one of the up and coming OC's. Cut left ND due to health concerns and I just dont think he'll be around long.
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Literally and figuratively huh? :eek:
 
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Originally posted by tidwell@Nov 26, 2005 12:44 AM
Literally and figuratively huh?  :eek:
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I'd never wish harm on him...just that this would be a high pressure job and I'm sure if he still has some health concerns he might not be able to stay long.
 
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I think Cuts health will be fine. I don't think he had a heart attack just some by-pass work done. I know several people that have gone through that and function well.
 
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He had heart bypass surgery. It takes several months to recovery from that. Thusly he did not take the ND position. He should be fine physically for many more years if he takes care of himself;diet, exercise etc.

It's my opinion if Cutcliffe comes back as OC, since he sincerely wants to be HC again, there is probably an understanding that in X number of years that CPF will retire and Cut will have first dibbs on the job.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Nov 25, 2005 11:02 PM
I hear what you're saying, but I don't know that I'd call anybody in the SEC East supercharged on offense.
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Maybe not 'supercharged' like a USC offense or the way Louisville or Boise St. have been, but I attribute that to the strong D's in the SEC. Put any of those 3 in another conference and their numbers would would reflect a supercharged type O.

Richt comes from F$U type of O, where 40 ppg was the norm for many years. And it's one of the more open offenses. Everyone knows how Spurrier likes the wide open O. And Meyer took the phrase wide open O to a new level at Utah.

But in the SEC-east, the numbers are:

UGA- 30.1 ppg, 406.8 ypg
UF- 27.8 ppg, 375 ypg
*SoCar- 23 ppg, 307.5 ypg
UT- 17.8 ppg, 321.8 ypg

*denotes SoCar has scored 30 or more points in a game 4 times. UT has scored 30 only once, in overtime.

I just think that to be successful, the O needs to be a little more free-wheelin' and wide open.

I remember when Cut left for Ole Miss, the big thing that was said about Sanders was that he was more liberal with the playbook where as Cut was ultra conservative. Even with CRS as OC, we were still pretty conservative. The teams that are using that formula are not the teams competing for MNC titles year in and year out anymore. The landscape of college football has changed.
 
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I remember when Cut left for Ole Miss, the big thing that was said about Sanders was that he was more liberal with the playbook where as Cut was ultra conservative. Even with CRS as OC, we were still pretty conservative. The teams that are using that formula are not the teams competing for MNC titles year in and year out anymore. The landscape of college football has changed.
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If you read between the lines you'll probably see that Coach Sanders hands were tied by a mandate from Coach Fulmer as to the general direction he wanted the offense to go. I could be full of you know what but that's the perception i got. The offense that was run in the '98 National Championship game seemed more open than what we've been seeing since. Could it be because Coach Cut just left and Coach Fulmer had no choice but to let Coach Sanders run the offense the way he thought was best?
 
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Originally posted by JohnsonCityVol@Nov 26, 2005 12:42 AM
I just think that to be successful, the O needs to be a little more free-wheelin' and wide open.
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Without a QB, receivers that can catch the ball, better O line play, protection of the football and better special teams/field position....it would prove pointless.

While I'm one that tends to agree that Tennessee's offense is old and a bore to watch, it could have been very effective with the things mentioned above.

You can have all the firewood in the world but it proves useless without the fire itself.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 26, 2005 3:03 AM
Without a QB, receivers that can catch the ball, better O line play, protection of the football and better special teams/field position....it would prove pointless. 

While I'm one that tends to agree that Tennessee's offense is old and a bore to watch, it could have been very effective with the things mentioned above. 

You can have all the firewood in the world but it proves useless without the fire itself.
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At the risk of appearing to be a semantics jackass, I think you meant firewood is useless without a spark (the fire itself wouldn't there without the spark) Your point is very well taken and I agree %100 that our team is lacking a flash point spark that would ignite the rest of the fire that is already there, due to the exceptional recruiting by our head coach. All we need is more coaches to fan the flames that are smoldering and bring the entire team together!! All those things you mentioned at the beginning of your post are already in place.
 
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Originally posted by hmanvolfan@Nov 26, 2005 2:36 AM
At the risk of appearing to be a semantics jackass, I think you meant firewood is useless without a spark (the fire itself wouldn't there without the spark) Your point is very well taken and I agree %100 that our team is lacking a flash point spark that would ignite the rest of the fire that is already there, due to the exceptional recruiting by our head coach. All we need is more coaches to fan the flames that are smoldering and bring the entire team together!! All those things you mentioned at the beginning of your post are already in place.
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I agree in some ways and disgree in 1 way. What this team lacked as far as players go(many other factors were lacking elsewhere IMO), was a leader on offense. Now with a 2 QB system that eliminates the QB pretty much. One of the upperclassmen be it a lineman or whoever in the huddle needed to say...Linemen...pancake your man, recievers catch the ball and downfield block, backs run like a madman and don't let any 1 guy take you down...in short....just execute and STHU or I'll force you to whip my butt after the game. :twocents:
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 26, 2005 2:03 AM
Without a QB, receivers that can catch the ball, better O line play, protection of the football and better special teams/field position....it would prove pointless. 

While I'm one that tends to agree that Tennessee's offense is old and a bore to watch, it could have been very effective with the things mentioned above. 

You can have all the firewood in the world but it proves useless without the fire itself.
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When I saw Blake Mitchell at South Carolina onTV the first game of the season I thought he was terrible, not talented at all. But by seasons end with good coaching he was a decent SEC QB (Beat us!) So OWB you haven't made a convincing argument.

THE FIREWOOD IS THE HEAD COACH!!!!!!!
 
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Terrible and not talented?? I was in the stadium for SC's opener. Blake Mitchell was 18-23 for 320 yards and 3 TDs. Not saying that Spurrier hasn't made a difference, but don't act like Mitchell was some stiff. I daresay that we would have looked a little better if we had Blake Mitchell under center.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Nov 26, 2005 8:40 AM
Terrible and not talented??  I was in the stadium for SC's opener.  Blake Mitchell was 18-23 for 320 yards and 3 TDs.  Not saying that Spurrier hasn't made a difference, but don't act like Mitchell was some stiff.  I daresay that we would have looked a little better if we had Blake Mitchell under center.
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I concur. Might I insert, UT has to have the "Deep Ball Threat" in the offense. We have to keep the defense on their toes.
 
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