Just something so repulsive...

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If the Vols hadn't just taken a 2nd azz whooping a week ago your argument wouldn't fall on as many deaf ears. It happens every year. You can't take a win or loss over one team and try to line them up neatly. We were just punished worse a week ago by a worse team than we punished LSU when you consider a team hit 60.
 
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It's not repulsive: It's a long season and you're not going to get a lot of credit for nice early wins if you're playing badly late in the season.
 
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kxtop said:
about seeing LSU likely headed to the SEC championship...a team we defeated 40-13
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We aren't in their division so not like that game really mattered to them or us. They are on verge of sweeping their division. That should be enough to get you to Atlanta. We did not.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Cross division games don’t matter. In fact you can lose both and still sweep your divisional games and still have a shot at Atlanta.
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That is wrong.

Games against SEC teams from the other division count equally in the SEC Divisional Standings as SEC games from within the division. The tie-breaker between two teams in the same division is the head-to-head game, whenever a tie-breaker is needed.

If you want to say that conference games within the division are "more important" than conference games from outside the division? I would agree with that, but to say that "cross division games don't matter," as you have in multiple posts now ... is ridiculous. They do matter.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is wrong.

Games against SEC teams from the other division count equally in the SEC Divisional Standings as SEC games from within the division. The tie-breaker between two teams in the same division is the head-to-head game, whenever a tie-breaker is needed.

If you want to say that conference games within the division are "more important" than conference games from outside the division? I would agree with that, but to say that "cross division games don't matter," as you have in multiple posts now ... is ridiculous. They do matter.
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LSU finished at 6-2 with Bama at 6-2.

LSU went 5-1 in their division. That’s why they are going to Atlanta.

Cross division games don’t really matter for teams trying to win their division. They go 6-0 in their division, they likely win the division. Even if they lose 1 or 2 cross division games aka the two games where they don’t have to worry about head to head tie breakers
 
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JMSqb11 said:
LSU finished at 6-2 with Bama at 6-2.

LSU went 5-1 in their division. That’s why they are going to Atlanta.

Cross division games don’t really matter for teams trying to win their division. They go 6-0 in their division, they likely win the division. Even if they lose 1 or 2 cross division games aka the two games where they don’t have to worry about head to head tie breakers
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That is dead wrong.

If you want to say that games played against teams from within the division are more important than games played against teams from the other division? That would be correct, but to say that games played against teams from the other division "don't really matter for teams trying to win their division," is ridiculous.

An SEC game played between teams from opposite divisions counts just as much in the SEC Divisional Standings as a game played within the same division.

Consider this scenario:

Let's say that Tennessee had beaten Georgia, but lost to both LSU and Alabama this season ... while Georgia won every other game they played except for Tennessee, with every other SEC East team finishing as they actually did. Under such a scenario, who would have won the SEC East?

Georgia.

That would be true, even though Tennessee had swept their division, including a head-to-head win over Georgia.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
LSU finished at 6-2 with Bama at 6-2.

LSU went 5-1 in their division. That’s why they are going to Atlanta.
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LSU is going to the SEC Championship Game by virtue of their head-to-head victory over Alabama. That is the tie-breaker; not the divisional record.

For the 3rd time, if you want to just say that SEC Games played within the division are more important than SEC games played against teams from the opposite division, that is accurate ... but to say that SEC games played outside of your division don't really matter is wrong. It is weird that you are arguing this point to the extent that you are.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LSU is going to the SEC Championship Game by virtue of their head-to-head victory over Alabama. That is the tie-breaker; not the divisional record.

For the 3rd time, if you want to just say that SEC Games played within the division are more important than SEC games played against teams from the opposite division, that is accurate ... but to say that SEC games played outside of your division don't really matter is wrong. It is weird that you are arguing this point to the extent that you are.
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Up until last night, LSU was on pace to sweep their division, but were afford a loss cushion to wrap up the division....

Had they lost 2 division games, they woulda been out due to head to head tie breakers. Cross division games don't really matter for a team's division race
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Up until last night, LSU was on pace to sweep their division, but were afford a loss cushion to wrap up the division....

Had they lost 2 division games, they woulda been out due to head to head tie breakers. Cross division games don't really matter for a team's division race
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Yes, they do ... because they count equally in the SEC Divisional Standings as games played from within the division.

For the 4th time now ... if you want to say that SEC games played from within the division are more important towards winning the division, than games played against teams from the opposite division, that is accurate. However, to say that "cross division games don't really matter for a team's division race," is wrong.

There are scenarios where an SEC team can win every game in their division, but still not win their division, because they lost the 2 SEC games played outside of their division.

Don't make me say this a 5th time ... PLEASE.
 
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kxtop said:
about seeing LSU likely headed to the SEC championship...a team we defeated 40-13
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And if LSU wins that SEC Championship game what happens to UGA? Doesn't seem like Georgia should make the playoffs if they lose to LSU.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Up until last night, LSU was on pace to sweep their division, but were afford a loss cushion to wrap up the division....

Had they lost 2 division games, they woulda been out due to head to head tie breakers. Cross division games don't really matter for a team's division race
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, they do ... because they count equally in the SEC Divisional Standings as games played from within the division.

For the 4th time now ... if you want to say that SEC games played from within the division are more important towards winning the division, than games played against teams from the opposite division, that is accurate. However, to say that "cross division games don't really matter for a team's division race," is wrong.

There are scenarios where an SEC team can win every game in their division, but still not win their division, because they lost the 2 SEC games played outside of their division.

Don't make me say this a 5th time ... PLEASE.
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Lol, I can't believe you're even having to have this conversation. 10 years ago Spurrier tried to get support to only count division games in determining the division winner and it didn't get much support.

Spurrier proposal to only count division games a hot topic at SEC meetings
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Cross division games don’t matter. In fact you can lose both and still sweep your divisional games and still have a shot at Atlanta.
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The second sentence doesn't prove the first. Your first is a definite statement, but your second is a conditional statement.

If Georgia and Tennessee both go 6-2 to tie with SEC record, and Georgia beats us but loses to UF and SC, and we got to 6-2 losing to Alabama and Georgia, guess who gets the division win? Georgia, because they beat us head to head. According to you, you seem to think we'd get the division because we'd be 4-1 in the division and Georgia would be 3-2 but that's 100% false.

So your assertion that cross-divisional games don't matter is also 100% false and I can't believe you keep doubling down on it. Saying you CAN win the divsion and lose both cross division games is NOT the same thing as sayng cross divisional games don't matter.

This is not difficult.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The second sentence doesn't prove the first. Your first is a definite statement, but your second is a conditional statement.

If Georgia and Tennessee both go 6-2 to tie with SEC record, and Georgia beats us but loses to UF and SC, and we got to 6-2 losing to Alabama and Georgia, guess who gets the division win? Georgia, because they beat us head to head. According to you, you seem to think we'd get the division because we'd be 4-1 in the division and Georgia would be 3-2 but that's 100% false.

So your assertion that cross-divisional games don't matter is also 100% false and I can't believe you keep doubling down on it. Saying you CAN win the divsion and lose both cross division games is NOT the same thing as sayng cross divisional games don't matter.

This is not difficult.
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Cross division games don’t matter in the division race. Keep clowning though.
 
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kxtop said:
about seeing LSU likely headed to the SEC championship...a team we defeated 40-13
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You want to see repulsive go to SDS and read the article talking about Anthony Richardson and the Heisman Trophy. Oh wait that’s not repulsive it’s laughable. My bad I was laughing so hard I couldn’t think straight
 
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