Kanter?

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lbrjohn3

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I know the NCAA hasn't given a ruling on his eligibilty yet but I was wondering what you guys thought about him making it in or not.
 
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If he did accept $100,000 in boarding, etc. he shouldn't be eligible, but it's UK so he'll sit for 5 games.
 
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Honestly? Who knows.. Part of me says he will not meet eligibility requirements at all and part of me says he will set out 10 games or so. It's kind of a tough situation. He wasn't bound by any contract to Fenerbahce Ulker (The club that he played for), he was underage and could not sign a contract. However, they did provide him funds to attend the club.

My uncle is president of a Lexington company who is a vendor for UK athletics and this is what he has been told from some of his friends at the university. (Not really anything more than we already know): The NCAA is trying to see if a comparison can be made for the funds he received to the funds given to a student for prep school in the US. It's my understanding that funds are given for a student to attend prep school in the US (food, room and board, etc.) and can add up to a substantial sum of money. These funds are specifically set aside for each individual necessity. In European club ball, general funds are given to the student. Even though the funds are not designated for necessities, it is custom and common for the club players to spend the funds on the necessities (room and board, food, etc.) Kanters parents evidentially went to great lengths to record, document, and itemize the funds received and what was spent on such items listed above. They have submitted that to the NCAA. On the opposite end of the spectrum the GM of Fenerbahce Ulker submitted a general fund to the NCAA simply saying that he received "x" amount of money. It's also my understanding that the GM of the club isn't too cooperative in seeing that Enes plays. Because if he plays, that pretty much paves the way for all European players to come to the US and receive immediate eligibility with the NCAA. This affects much more than Kanter and UK. It affects every college in the US and any player in Europe who wishes to come to the US.

With that being said. It's a matter of who the NCAA believes, records from the family or an uncooperative GM from a Turkish ball club. And whether or not the funds received can be equivalent to the funds provided for US prep school players.
 
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Except the school gives a scholarship.

Not a basketball team that makes money off of his services.

And prep school scholarships do not include spending money.
 
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Heebs said:
Except the school gives a scholarship.

Not a basketball team that makes money off of his services.

And prep school scholarships do not include spending money.
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That says it all.
We'll see how the ruling goes. I thought we were supposed to hear something by now.
 
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SportsFreak said:
Honestly? Who knows.. Part of me says he will not meet eligibility requirements at all and part of me says he will set out 10 games or so. It's kind of a tough situation. He wasn't bound by any contract to Fenerbahce Ulker (The club that he played for), he was underage and could not sign a contract. However, they did provide him funds to attend the club.

My uncle is president of a Lexington company who is a vendor for UK athletics and this is what he has been told from some of his friends at the university. (Not really anything more than we already know): The NCAA is trying to see if a comparison can be made for the funds he received to the funds given to a student for prep school in the US. It's my understanding that funds are given for a student to attend prep school in the US (food, room and board, etc.) and can add up to a substantial sum of money. These funds are specifically set aside for each individual necessity. In European club ball, general funds are given to the student. Even though the funds are not designated for necessities, it is custom and common for the club players to spend the funds on the necessities (room and board, food, etc.) Kanters parents evidentially went to great lengths to record, document, and itemize the funds received and what was spent on such items listed above. They have submitted that to the NCAA. On the opposite end of the spectrum the GM of Fenerbahce Ulker submitted a general fund to the NCAA simply saying that he received "x" amount of money. It's also my understanding that the GM of the club isn't too cooperative in seeing that Enes plays. Because if he plays, that pretty much paves the way for all European players to come to the US and receive immediate eligibility with the NCAA. This affects much more than Kanter and UK. It affects every college in the US and any player in Europe who wishes to come to the US.

With that being said. It's a matter of who the NCAA believes, records from the family or an uncooperative GM from a Turkish ball club. And whether or not the funds received can be equivalent to the funds provided for US prep school players.
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good stuff.
 
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Heebs said:
Except the school gives a scholarship.

Not a basketball team that makes money off of his services.

And prep school scholarships do not include spending money.
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dont the schools make money on the parking, concession, and tickets? ohhh, so they do make money. its a profit thing.
 
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This is a sticky situation, and the closer it gets to game 1, the less it looks he will be eligible IMO. I hope he is, because if he is not, UK cannot compete inside with UT or UF let alone the top OOC teams. They will still have a good season regardless, but to have a great season, UK will need Kanter and will need him soon.
 
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9-10 games is what the common thought process is. i don't care if they pull a randolph morris and sit him until after Christmas. the UK needs him sooner than later thought process doesn't really hold much water with me. he's a beast and a game changer. i think what strikes me is, if he had stayed committed to Washington would there have been all this jazz going on. i read it somewhere best, we had two options, don't recruit him and he gets elligible and plays against us or recruit him and worst case scenario he sits the bench.

whoever said it was about his european team is right, he's worth big money to them right now, huge money. his parents are independently wealthy so any money he received wasn't "improper" or under the table money. it'll all work itself out and be what it is. but he's the difference in us being a good and a great team, no doubt
 
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It seems like he would have to at least pay back anything not needed for necessities, since they make players pay back agents.
 
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He'll get cleared, play, and UK will win lots of games. Two years from now NCAA will change ruling, declare him ineligible, forfeit UK games, and Cal will leave for another shot in the NBA.
 
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I read today that the longer the wait for UK the more of the chances of him being able to play. If he was clearly not eligible this would have been dropped a long time ago. The longer this goes on just means that considerations and negotiations are being made imo. I think that they are just trying to decide how many games to hold him out of right now.
 
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jfrancis04 said:
Hat- What's your guess on what they decide with Kanter? I just wish it would be done already so we can know what we're up against.
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Having no access to the alleged bank records, it's tough to say. Once the 'AA decides who to believe, this case is easy. The club and the Kanters both obviously have substantial incentive to tilt the facts in their favor. It's like most court cases. You look at the witnesses and go with your gut on who you ultimately believe. I have a hard time seeing this one as anything but all or nothing. Either you believe the GM, which makes Kanter an obvious professional, or you believe the Kanters, which makes him immediately eligible under the new standards for foreign players.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Having no access to the alleged bank records, it's tough to say. Once the 'AA decides who to believe, this case is easy. The club and the Kanters both obviously have substantial incentive to tilt the facts in their favor. It's like most court cases. You look at the witnesses and go with your gut on who you ultimately believe. I have a hard time seeing this one as anything but all or nothing. Either you believe the GM, which makes Kanter an obvious professional, or you believe the Kanters, which makes him immediately eligible under the new standards for foreign players.
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Thanks. Will be an interesting decision for sure.
 
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Guess there should be some of UT players like Chism,Prince,Lofton etc who could give some insight on how things are run in foreign countries regarding basketball. If he was paid $100,000 that is about half in Euro money. It seems unfair the guy making a decision on him......recruited him for Washington.....but now he is not clear on it all? I hope like any young man out there, he gets a chance to get a good education and play a little basketball :)
 
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