Kentucky Looses Major Recruit to Nebraska

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Sucks for Kentucky but kudos to the kid for listening to his heart and not letting outside influences and family push him to stay in state if his heart isn't there.
 
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Not sure why the kid committed when he clearly didn't feel it was right. But add this kid to the long list of KY kids who simply refuse to buy into what Stoops has done.

Somehow out of all the "elite" KY recruits the only one we ended up was Matt Elam LOL
 
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Mac Jones, Jarren Williams, Elijah Sindelar, Damien Harris, Wandale Robinson, Michael Warren, Charles Reeves, Meechi Harris, Jermaine Eskridge, Shocky Jacques-Louis, Jedrick Willis, James Hudson, A. Reigelspieger, Xavier Peters, Russ Yeast (legacy), Keontra Smith, Jay Ward, etc etc.

The list of what-ifs is painful.
 
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MSCE09 said:
How do sports fans not know how to spell lose?
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Well, UT fans anyway. We should be all about knowing how to spell "lose."

ex. 1: loose (rhymes with goose) Oh noes, my shoelaces are loose! Now I'm gonna trip or something.
ex. 2: lose (rhymes with booze) Oh noes, we lose again!

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LittleCat said:
Not sure why the kid committed when he clearly didn't feel it was right. But add this kid to the long list of KY kids who simply refuse to buy into what Stoops has done.

Somehow out of all the "elite" KY recruits the only one we ended up was Matt Elam LOL
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Other than have the luckiest season of his career, what has Stops done?

UK got mauled by UT. He has hardly built something.
 
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allvol123 said:
Other than have the luckiest season of his career, what has Stops done?

UK got mauled by UT. He has hardly built something.
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Every year he has improved his win total. Will it continue? Probably not, but it's still proof that he improved the program.

Using the worst game, by far, of the year as proof he is failing is asinine. UT could barely beat Charlotte, but that doesn't define the year.
 
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LittleCat said:
Every year he has improved his win total. Will it continue? Probably not, but it's still proof that he improved the program.

Using the worst game, by far, of the year as proof he is failing is asinine. UT could barely beat Charlotte, but that doesn't define the year.
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Sadly, while it may not define the Vols' year exactly, it provides a fairly decent Cliff Notes version...on the other hand, what Stoops and KY did overall this year is commendable.
 
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LittleCat said:
Mac Jones, Jarren Williams, Elijah Sindelar, Damien Harris, Wandale Robinson, Michael Warren, Charles Reeves, Meechi Harris, Jermaine Eskridge, Shocky Jacques-Louis, Jedrick Willis, James Hudson, A. Reigelspieger, Xavier Peters, Russ Yeast (legacy), Keontra Smith, Jay Ward, etc etc.

The list of what-ifs is painful.
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I'm not being a smart a$$, I'm really not, but if you're an elite recruit why would you want to go to Kentucky? I can see y'all getting a legacy recruit, but other than that I don't know why an elite player with offers from big time SEC or Big Ten schools would go there.

Stoops is a good coach and has really improved the program, but Kentucky is not a football school. Never has been. It lacks resources, tradition, facilities, a brand, general "buzz," etc.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm not being a smart a$$, I'm really not, but if you're an elite recruit why would you want to go to Kentucky? I can see y'all getting a legacy recruit, but other than that I don't know why an elite player with offers from big time SEC or Big Ten schools would go there.

Stoops is a good coach and has really improved the program, but Kentucky is not a football school. Never has been. It lacks resources, tradition, facilities, a brand, general "buzz," etc.
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Completely agree.

I have no problem in losing elite guys that we really have no connection to. But almost all of the players I listed were either UK commits or heavy loans at some point. Many spoke about how they were 100 percent locked in to UK only to flip weeks or months later.

Damien Harris might be the most annoying example. Said he loved UK. Said he was gonna stay home. Got a lot of attention, love, and visits from staff/players. People were so convinced he was coming here that we even had players had his commitment announcement. And then boom, Bama. Very confusing and frustrating to see that.
 
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LittleCat said:
Completely agree.

I have no problem in losing elite guys that we really have no connection to. But almost all of the players I listed were either UK commits or heavy loans at some point. Many spoke about how they were 100 percent locked in to UK only to flip weeks or months later.

Damien Harris might be the most annoying example. Said he loved UK. Said he was gonna stay home. Got a lot of attention, love, and visits from staff/players. People were so convinced he was coming here that we even had players had his commitment announcement. And then boom, Bama. Very confusing and frustrating to see that.
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That is frustrating, but again, Kentucky isn't a big time football program. If they pay lip service and eventually don't come that's frustrating, but you have to kind of expect that. Having a 5-star like a Damien Harris in Kentucky doesn't happen often and there isn't a dominant football program in the state. Big time programs will focus on those kids and recruit them hard because they think they can get them to flip.

The same thing has happened to Tennessee a lot lately, but for a different reason - because we suck. If you're a big time program currently down (like Tennessee) or a smaller program on an upswing (like Kentucky), your in-state talent is ripe for poaching by out of state schools.
 
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05_never_again said:
That is frustrating, but again, Kentucky isn't a big time football program. If they pay lip service and eventually don't come that's frustrating, but you have to kind of expect that. Having a 5-star like a Damien Harris in Kentucky doesn't happen often and there isn't a dominant football program in the state. Big time programs will focus on those kids and recruit them hard because they think they can get them to flip.

The same thing has happened to Tennessee a lot lately, but for a different reason - because we suck. If you're a big time program currently down (like Tennessee) or a smaller program on an upswing (like Kentucky), your in-state talent is ripe for poaching by out of state schools.
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Part of it is that it's just the nature of current football recruiting. Seems like 90% of kids have to make a giant deal of whittling the list down to 10, 6, 3, 1 etc etc. They have a ton of attention on them and a ton of pressure to please everyone around them while being happy themselves.

Simply boils down (at least for me) to wishing kids would wait, commit, and then stick with it. I like Wandale. He's from a school I know very well and a place I spent a ton of time growing up. I spent many nights watching JT Riddle there. Tough seeing a kid I like flip flop.
 
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LittleCat said:
Part of it is that it's just the nature of current football recruiting. Seems like 90% of kids have to make a giant deal of whittling the list down to 10, 6, 3, 1 etc etc. They have a ton of attention on them and a ton of pressure to please everyone around them while being happy themselves.

Simply boils down (at least for me) to wishing kids would wait, commit, and then stick with it. I like Wandale. He's from a school I know very well and a place I spent a ton of time growing up. I spent many nights watching JT Riddle there. Tough seeing a kid I like flip flop.
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There's so much attention on it now, way more than there used to be. There are entire websites devoted to rating players and guessing where they are going to go, ESPN broadcasts live from high schools where kids are announcing, etc., These highly touted kids have been told their s**t doesn't stink for most of their lives, and that lends itself to them being drama queens.

Plus people just take what these kids say too seriously anyway. After all, they are 17-18 years old. Over in the Recruiting forum there are a bunch of people beside themselves that Owen Pappoe made it clear he is still committing to Auburn even though he supposedly said Tennessee was his "dream school" in middle school, among other reasons. You try to point out the silliness of this, but get flamed.
 
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VolNExile said:
Well, UT fans anyway. We should be all about knowing how to spell "lose."

ex. 1: loose (rhymes with goose) Oh noes, my shoelaces are loose! Now I'm gonna trip or something.
ex. 2: lose (rhymes with booze) Oh noes, we lose again!

Signed,
Proud spelling and grammar Nazi
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In my opinion, lose is the commonly misspelled word on the internet. I very seldom see it spelled correctly on any forum. Another one is rogue, which is generally misspelled rouge.
 
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