Kentucky PreGame

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(hatvol96 @ Feb 28 said:
Lawgator, as a fan of Bob Knight and Bob Huggins, I'm well aware of what a team on E at the end of the season looks like. It takes a really unique team to keep intensity from mid-October until late March. My gut is that playing for Coach Pearl isn't a picnic.
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Yeah, I saw something about Pearl making them run some laps in, like, the first 20 seconds of his tenure running the program.

Good for him.

 
#27
#27
(hatvol96 @ Feb 28 said:
Lawgator, as a fan of Bob Knight and Bob Huggins, I'm well aware of what a team on E at the end of the season looks like. It takes a really unique team to keep intensity from mid-October until late March. My gut is that playing for Coach Pearl isn't a picnic.
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The only problem with the "out of gas" theory, is that it hasn't yet ocurred for two games in a row. One half(Auburn) and then one game(Bama) is about as close as it comes to two games straight. Now maybe they are gassed but, so far, every time they've played poorly they have come back to perform well in the next game.

Lord I hope this isn't the time they prove me wrong on this. I don't care what others say about this game not really being important for us. I believe it is an incredible chance to make a statement to pollsters and selection committees.
The statement?
No, it wasn't a fluke that is now starting to unravel. This team...this system... are for real.

 
#28
#28
(orange+white=heaven @ Feb 28 said:
The only problem with the "out of gas" theory, is that it hasn't yet ocurred for two games in a row. One half(Auburn) and then one game(Bama) is about as close as it comes to two games straight. Now maybe they are gassed but, so far, every time they've played poorly they have come back to perform well in the next game.

Lord I hope this isn't the time they prove me wrong on this. I don't care what others say about this game not really being important for us. I believe it is an incredible chance to make a statement to pollsters and selection committees.
The statement?
No, it wasn't a fluke that is now starting to unravel. This team...this system... are for real.
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The irony is that you are supposed to win this one. You are into the Dance. Kentucky is in good shape, but still a bit of a bubble team. You have the SECE locked up. They could use a win to get 2nd in the SECE and a first round tourney bye. You beat them this year at their house, this is their shot at redemption.

Will be interesting to see how your guys react to being the team that is "supposed" to be better and win. Hasn't been that way for awhile and certainly against Kentucky this is a very odd position to be in for UT.
 
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(orange+white=heaven @ Feb 28 said:
The only problem with the "out of gas" theory, is that it hasn't yet ocurred for two games in a row. One half(Auburn) and then one game(Bama) is about as close as it comes to two games straight. Now maybe they are gassed but, so far, every time they've played poorly they have come back to perform well in the next game.

Lord I hope this isn't the time they prove me wrong on this. I don't care what others say about this game not really being important for us. I believe it is an incredible chance to make a statement to pollsters and selection committees.
The statement?
No, it wasn't a fluke that is now starting to unravel. This team...this system... are for real.
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Pearl's system has been successful everywhere he's been. I don't think there's any doubt about its efficacy. I just got the feeling sitting in the arena Saturday that the lack of size and depth is finally catching up with this team. It's amazing to me that it has taken this long to happen. As I stated in a post last week, this team should be celebrated for their accomplishments. I simply think they have about reached the end of their road. That's not criticism, just my view of the situation.
 
#30
#30
"We have a lot more basketball to play this season, and I'm still focused on the fact that we've not played our best basketball yet."
-Bruce Pearl
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He just always says the right thing at the right time....
 
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(hatvol96 @ Feb 28 said:
Pearl's system has been successful everywhere he's been. I don't think there's any doubt about its efficacy. I just got the feeling sitting in the arena Saturday that the lack of size and depth is finally catching up with this team. It's amazing to me that it has taken this long to happen. As I stated in a post last week, this team should be celebrated for their accomplishments. I simply think they have about reached the end of their road. That's not criticism, just my view of the situation.
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In my mind, it's not about the gas tank or the end of the road. We now employ a system that forces turnovers and relies on relatively strong shooting / guard play. If a team handles our pressure relatively well, they tend to shoot very high percentages because much of their offense is fast break oriented. If opponents handle reasonably well and we shoot poorly, we are going to get it handed to us. Some nights the ball just doesn't bounce right for pressure defenses and we have little to fall back on during those stretches.

Other teams that have employed Pearl's style of play (a la Nolan Richardson's Arkansas teams) and found ways to win even without turnovers from their opponents had (1) Deep benches and could wear you down over time with tempo (2) The ability to defend well in the halfcourt (3) the ability to score in the paint from a set offense if need be to take defensive pressure off of their shooters (4) Strong rebounding to start the break and put back misses to set up the press. Of these listed, we might have (1), but the remainder we lack because of post player issues. While I think we've gotten better in the post, on both ends of the floor, I don't think we're going to beat competitive teams when our pressure fails to generate turnovers and up tempo play.
 
#33
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(BigPapaVol @ Feb 28 said:
In my mind, it's not about the gas tank or the end of the road. We now employ a system that forces turnovers and relies on relatively strong shooting / guard play. If a team handles our pressure relatively well, they tend to shoot very high percentages because much of their offense is fast break oriented. If opponents handle reasonably well and we shoot poorly, we are going to get it handed to us. Some nights the ball just doesn't bounce right for pressure defenses and we have little to fall back on during those stretches.

Other teams that have employed Pearl's style of play (a la Nolan Richardson's Arkansas teams) and found ways to win even without turnovers from their opponents had (1) Deep benches and could wear you down over time with tempo (2) The ability to defend well in the halfcourt (3) the ability to score in the paint from a set offense if need be to take defensive pressure off of their shooters (4) Strong rebounding to start the break and put back misses to set up the press. Of these listed, we might have (1), but the remainder we lack because of post player issues. While I think we've gotten better in the post, on both ends of the floor, I don't think we're going to beat competitive teams when our pressure fails to generate turnovers and up tempo play.
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good post.
 
#34
#34
Lookin' for another close game... but I really don't see a reason why the result should be any different than it was in Lexington. Wouldn't be totally surprised if UK still pulled out, because they're still UK.
 
#35
#35
The place will be rocking, probably the best scene for a Tennessee men's home game EVER in TBA. Don't underestimate how badly Pearl and this team will want to win it FOR THE FANS. I think they could care less whether or not they're already in the dance. We've shown up for the boys, and now they're going to "thank" us.

Tennessee by 10.

Oh, and if Major pulls 10 rebounds, I'll take him to Ye Olde.
 
#36
#36
(rockytopscott @ Feb 28 said:
Is it just me or is Hatvol96 the most negative UT fan on this board?
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YES SIR.... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
#37
#37
(BIG T @ Feb 28 said:
YES SIR.... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Gee, I never knew negative and objective were synonyms.
 
#40
#40
If you want to know what lies ahead in your future call Madam Cleo... Call Me Now!
 
#41
#41
give hat a break...he's just balancing out some of the yahoo's on here...I think we win by 5
UT 87
UK 82
 
#42
#42
(hatvol96 @ Feb 28 said:
Gee, I never knew negative and objective were synonyms.
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Not to :banghead: but I think it's because there are no "if's" in your statements, only definites. I agree that the guys looked dead toward the end of the Ark. game. They ran out of gas for the first time all season. However this is UK so I expect to see a little extra. What if CBP gave them a little time off this week to get their legs back under them? What if CBP got after Major and challenged him to step up? What if we inserted a couple more plays to work and get Lofton open looks? What if CBP puts on the orange jacket and simply refuses to let his boys lose? I just think there are so many more variables than "tank is on E".

Like my boss tells me "don't bring me problems, bring me solutions." If you concentrate on why we should lose then you miss the reasons why we should win. We should have lost many, many more games this year.

EDIT: I forgot, UT 85-78.
 
#44
#44
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!! :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:
 
#45
#45
(utvolpj @ Feb 28 said:
Not to :banghead: but I think it's because there are no "if's" in your statements, only definites. I agree that the guys looked dead toward the end of the Ark. game. They ran out of gas for the first time all season. However this is UK so I expect to see a little extra. What if CBP gave them a little time off this week to get their legs back under them? What if CBP got after Major and challenged him to step up? What if we inserted a couple more plays to work and get Lofton open looks? What if CBP puts on the orange jacket and simply refuses to let his boys lose? I just think there are so many more variables than "tank is on E".

Like my boss tells me "don't bring me problems, bring me solutions." If you concentrate on why we should lose then you miss the reasons why we should win. We should have lost many, many more games this year.

EDIT: I forgot, UT 85-78.
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Predictions are by their nature definitive. A forecast with equivocation is no forecast. Your list of positive factors would be what I would point to if I were predicting a UT victory. However, I'm not. A prediction is made after factoring the variables you reference and deciding which ones you think will rule the day.
 
#46
#46
(hatvol96 @ Feb 28 said:
Predictions are by their nature definitive. A forecast with equivocation is no forecast. Your list of positive factors would be what I would point to if I were predicting a UT victory. However, I'm not. A prediction is made after factoring the variables you reference and deciding which ones you think will rule the day.
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That's fair I guess. No problem in it, we just look at this a little different. After fball I really am looking hard to find the positive.
 
#47
#47
(utvolpj @ Feb 28 said:
That's fair I guess. No problem in it, we just look at this a little different. After fball I really am looking hard to find the positive.
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Nothing wrong with that.
 
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