Kerry blames Tornados on Global Warming

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jkell24 said:
I'd rather take the steps necessary to prevent global warming and find out I was wrong rather than ignore it and find out I was wrong. I know it has been referred to as "junk science" on here, and maybe it is, but what if it isn't? Just as someone cannot tell you global warming is 100 percent true, someone can't tell me it isn't. We do know that oil won't last forever so I don't think it's a bad thing to see a few more Civics and Corollas and a few less Excursions and Hummers on the road if it is "junk science".
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I would be willing to say that the vast majority of those who refer to it as "junk science" understand very little of the details of the science. Junk science is an interesting term anyway - it implies dubious science that exists for political reasons, as opposed to unsound science. I don't classify climate change science as either - but the political influence in this area does bother me. The fundamental problem is that you cannot detach this issue from social policies .... and ultimately this means the politicians will come calling.

This is obviously an issue we need to get right. Some argue that we can't afford inaction - others argue that the cost of inappropriate action could be huge...and I see points on both of these sides.
 
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Who does Kerry blame for looking like a horse? His mom, dad, global warming?

Why does he still matter?

When did Gore come up with this magic internet thingy?

These are the questions I want answered. :banghead2:
 
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speaking of Gore his global warming video has a lot of stuff in it that NASA has proved to be false. i saw an article on it, but this was a while back. wish i knew the link i'd post it.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
speaking of Gore his global warming video has a lot of stuff in it that NASA has proved to be false. i saw an article on it, but this was a while back. wish i knew the link i'd post it.
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Funny, I never seen Kerry's or Gore's comments when it snowed in Baghdad this year. I guess i must have missed it.
 
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I thought it was because those states voted for Clinton and mother nature wanted to teach us a lesson?
 
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myrobbins7 said:
Funny, I never seen Kerry's or Gore's comments when it snowed in Baghdad this year. I guess i must have missed it.
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That's one of my biggest problem's with Kerry's comments. You can't attach isolated weather events to any form of climate dynamics...it just looks stupid.
 
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also there was a blizzard in a different part of the country the day those storms came down south. also can they xplain why china has been having those extreme blizzard conditions?
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
also there was a blizzard in a different part of the country the day those storms came down south. also can they xplain why china has been having those extreme blizzard conditions?
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It's weather...it's snowing outside my window right now. It was 50 degrees yesterday...

I promise you that the dynamic climatologists who study this (or at least the ones I know) shudder to hear weather events ascribed directly to global warming. Weather trends may be another matter...but isolated weather events are just that, isolated.
 
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TennTradition said:
That's one of my biggest problem's with Kerry's comments. You can't attach isolated weather events to any form of climate dynamics...it just looks stupid.
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That's why I hate when people say things like "Oh it's snowing in Baghdad, where is global warming now?"

Of course a lot of those people are the same folks that were absolutely thrilled that it was 72 degrees in middle TN on February 5th
 
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Kerry is a moron with no influence.

On a related note, I always find it amusing that Dems accuse Reps of using fear as a political tool. Both sides use fear - it's just fear of different things.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
ya some people on both sides take things way to seriously. politics is a touchy subj. that's why for the most part i don't get into to many discussions on here.
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I would say that people are pretty mellow in this sub-forum. There's no more personal attacks than you would find in the main forum. The debates get spirited but again, no more than in the main forum.

I say jump on in and don't worry too much if someone disagrees with you. We could use some more from the left side to get more discussions going (not saying you are from the left).

Political views are opinions - I think most on here recognize that.
 
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that horse faced idiot (Kerry) actually claimed that hurricanes are more intense now due to global warming.

what hurricanes? we've gone two full seasons without one making significant landfall (if any).
 
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MG1968 said:
that horse faced idiot (Kerry) actually claimed that hurricanes are more intense now due to global warming.

what hurricanes? we've gone two full seasons without one making significant landfall (if any).
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There is at least scientific effort to support this claim. Kerry Emanuel has done some work in this area. If the world warms, then oceans warm. With increased ocean temperatures, you see increased hurricane intensity. Note that the claim is more intense, not more frequent. This would go back to the fact that you can't pin individual hurricanes on GW...that is just dumb. The fact that when hurricanes do form - if they are over warmer water, they will be more intense - this part is a fairly natural conclusion.
 
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TennTradition said:
There is at least scientific effort to support this claim. Kerry Emanuel has done some work in this area. If the world warms, then oceans warm. With increased ocean temperatures, you see increased hurricane intensity. Note that the claim is more intense, not more frequent. This would go back to the fact that you can't pin individual hurricanes on GW...that is just dumb. The fact that when hurricanes do form - if they are over warmer water, they will be more intense - this part is a fairly natural conclusion.
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so how does global warming explain the last two Atlantic hurricane seasons?
 
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jkell24 said:
I'd rather take the steps necessary to prevent global warming and find out I was wrong rather than ignore it and find out I was wrong. I know it has been referred to as "junk science" on here, and maybe it is, but what if it isn't? Just as someone cannot tell you global warming is 100 percent true, someone can't tell me it isn't. We do know that oil won't last forever so I don't think it's a bad thing to see a few more Civics and Corollas and a few less Excursions and Hummers on the road if it is "junk science".
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Instead of mandating, how about let the supply/demand economic principles take affect and let the market drive people towards Civics? Plus, we have at least another 100 years of oil reserves on the planet (at least 100 years). I'm confident that by that time, we will have found an alternative source of energy, but right now, those alternatives that are viable are at least 20-30 years away...

Fossil fuels aren't going anywhere anytime soon... unless you intend on crippling the global economy.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Instead of mandating, how about let the supply/demand economic principles take affect and let the market drive people towards Civics? Plus, we have at least another 100 years of oil reserves on the planet (at least 100 years). I'm confident that by that time, we will have found an alternative source of energy, but right now, those alternatives that are viable are at least 20-30 years away...

Fossil fuels aren't going anywhere anytime soon... unless you intend on crippling the global economy.
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That's the problem with everything, it gets put aside for the next generation to deal with. That's the same mindset that has created the 9 trillion plus deficit we have, no worries, let our children deal with it.
 
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jkell24 said:
That's the problem with everything, it gets put aside for the next generation to deal with. That's the same mindset that has created the 9 trillion plus deficit we have, no worries, let our children deal with it.
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I'm not saying push it aside. The cost and demand of energy is rising. There are serious efforts being made to find alternatives, but you just can't blink your eyes and have a solution.
 
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Hey Rasputin, I like your old avatar. You and Hat should stick with the original avatars.
 
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