Kim Caldwell (Rookie Coach of the Year-WBCA) is named Head Coach of Iconic Lady Vols WBB

Wow. Just went I think ya'll can't get any crazier you hit me with something else. Danny White is not, and has not been in scramble mode. The decision to fire Kellie wasn't made on a whim. It was calculated.. so much so that he delayed it a week to cut the buyout in half. That's not "scramble" that's strategic. The fact we're not hearing leaks isn't "scramble mode" either, it reaffirms what we already knew - Danny White knows how to run an AD. Let's hold off on the doom and gloom, trash the AD talk until he gives us an actual reason to do so.
Please, please come back when the new coach is announced!!!! Anxious to see if it is the home run you were crowing about.
 
She does not have an 11mm buyout.
Some people don’t understand that there are TWO buyout numbers associated with a coaching contract.

One is what the coach is owed by the school if fired without cause (I.e., fired only for not winning enough, as opposed to NCAA sanctions or off field issues).

The other is what the coach owes the school to leave before the contract is up (though in the case of leaving for another job, the new school will almost always pay this in lieu of the coach).

There is no way the latter number would be anywhere near 11m for a coach as tenured and accomplished as Frese. That’s almost certainly the former number.
 
Graves path is an anomaly. That kind of success almost always translates when you move up, and it did in his case. The drop-off is the mystery. Incredibly rare. Could just be that he hasn't been able to adapt to free agency and NIL.

When he lost his top assistant/recruiter, Mark Campbell, that is when the drop-off started. Mark Campbell had a ton to do with that team's success on court and in recruiting.
 
Some people don’t understand that there are TWO buyout numbers associated with a coaching contract.

One is what the coach is owed by the school if fired without cause (I.e., fired only for not winning enough, as opposed to NCAA sanctions or off field issues).

The other is what the coach owes the school to leave before the contract is up (though in the case of leaving for another job, the new school will almost always pay this in lieu of the coach).

There is no way the latter number would be anywhere near 11m for a coach as tenured and accomplished as Frese. That’s almost certainly the former number.
Correct.
 
I know it is gospel on this board that Danny White is playing three-dimensional chess while us mere mortals are staring slack jawed at the checker board but I shall speak some blasphemy.

But it is sure not looking like he had that "big fish" on the hook before he fired Kellie. I suppose some will indignantly post that White is waiting for the tournament to end. Bless your hearts and I promise to eat my hat if Dawn Staley is wearing orange next season.

And now the UTAD is scouring across a set of potentially past their prime, name head oaches with heavy baggage (and pricey buyout clauses) and moderately successful mid major coaches that you have to hope can make a big jump when they take over the program.

That scenario is not screaming "BRILLIANT" strategic mode. I hope to be proven wrong but I will again say that this search seems to be in a scramble mod--fire first and ask questions later may not have been prudent.
The thing he is doing if this goes on much longer and hurting the new coaches chances in the portal. He or She has to go into next season with the present group as is will think Kellie had a great season this year. Going to need three or four players to shore up this group and unless he knows he has someone that can already supply that time is of the essence.
 
Who should Lady Vols hire? Here are 6 swing big options plus a fall back plan
YouTube video Knoxville news sentinel John Adams Cora Hall Blake Toppmeyer

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Going back to watch some of it now.
Posted title and what reports in video if any want to watch
 
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Take it with a grain of salt, but here's what I've heard from solid sources. DW is keeping things VERY close to the chest, so none of this will be groundbreaking information.

Kara is not happening and never was. Jennie Baranczyk has at least been contacted as has Lindsay Gottlieb although I don't know that interest is there for Lindsay with the class she has coming in. Wes Moore has been contacted although I don't know that the interest is there because he is very close with the Harpers, also his age is a factor. Brenda Frese is in contention, but will her baggage proceed her. Jeff Walz is in contention, but he has some of the same baggage as Brenda. I've heard nothing on Becky Hammon. This leads me to believe that the interest isn't there or she isn't too keen on recruiting.

I know that a LOT of interest has been there, but most of the interest is from successful mid major coaches or coaches coming off hot seasons that don't coach for a Power 5 school.

I expect early next week will the absolute latest we hear something.
Well this is underwhelming.
 
Wow. Just went I think ya'll can't get any crazier you hit me with something else. Danny White is not, and has not been in scramble mode. The decision to fire Kellie wasn't made on a whim. It was calculated.. so much so that he delayed it a week to cut the buyout in half. That's not "scramble" that's strategic. The fact we're not hearing leaks isn't "scramble mode" either, it reaffirms what we already knew - Danny White knows how to run an AD. Let's hold off on the doom and gloom, trash the AD talk until he gives us an actual reason to do so.
Just for the record, I am not responding to you but the "ideas" expressed.

I never said that Danny White was incompetent. Just how "strategic" does one have to be to understand that waiting a few days saves $2 million in buyout? He could have made the decision (on a whim) on Friday and still understood the financials of waiting until the following Monday to make the official announcement. If that were someone's best evidence of a master plan for world domination, to quote Tony Stark (Ironman), "not a good plan."

Unless an AD really has someone waiting in the wings when they fire a basketball coach in March, they damn well better be scrambling to hire a replacement because the musical chairs dance ends pretty quickly this time of year.
 
They seem to be the next group after Dawn, Geno, Kim, and Trish so who else should we be looking at? I know Becky Hammon, but don't think she cares to leave even if would be more money.
Someone who can at least pinch Dawn on the recruiting trail and be able to put up a decent game against her. Hell at this point bring Kellie back with the NIL funds if it’s any of those. Niele is the next best thing coming up. Make her leave ND!
 
Someone who can at least pinch Dawn on the recruiting trail and be able to put up a decent game against her. Hell at this point bring Kellie back with the NIL funds if it’s any of those. Niele is the next best thing coming up. Make her leave ND!

She isn’t leaving ND. She’s at her alma mater where she’s won NCs as a player and assistant.
 
The thing he is doing if this goes on much longer and hurting the new coaches chances in the portal. He or She has to go into next season with the present group as is will think Kellie had a great season this year. Going to need three or four players to shore up this group and unless he knows he has someone that can already supply that time is of the essence.

She was fired FOUR days ago lol.
 
Some people don’t understand that there are TWO buyout numbers associated with a coaching contract.

One is what the coach is owed by the school if fired without cause (I.e., fired only for not winning enough, as opposed to NCAA sanctions or off field issues).

The other is what the coach owes the school to leave before the contract is up (though in the case of leaving for another job, the new school will almost always pay this in lieu of the coach).

There is no way the latter number would be anywhere near 11m for a coach as tenured and accomplished as Frese. That’s almost certainly the former number.
True meaning not actually buyout but money she is guaranteed to stay at Maryland. Meaning if she is fired now they would owe her close to 11 million with the last six year contract she signed. So Tennessee would have to match that to get her so buyout was not the proper word payout is more like it.
 
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She isn’t leaving ND. She’s at her alma mater where she’s won NCs as a player and assistant.
True and why I believe our best shots are Jennie B or Lindsey at USC. If neither one of them you have Walz and then it gets to the mid major up and comers.
 
Please, please come back when the new coach is announced!!!! Anxious to see if it is the home run you were crowing about.
I'm not sure what your problem is. You seem to be set on hoping that the coaching search is a failure because of your bias against DW, Heupel, Vitello, etc. I mean, do you only have grudges against coaches that succeed? I'm confused lol

I can 100% assure you that DW is not and has not been in scramble mode. This was all planned and has been planned for a good amount of time barring a miraculous run in the tournament. Kellie also had a good feeling about it as well. He has been ranked as one of the best AD's in the country year in and year out.

I love Kellie. She's a great person and I know no one that dislikes her, HOWEVER this is about winning and succeeding. She didn't do that to the degree that Tennessee and the Lady Vols require and necessitate. I think I speak for the VAST majority of VFLs when I say that we just want to win.

I understand that you seem to sit on some kind of moral high ground while espousing ethics, morals, and class, but your definition is vastly different from what the majority of sports fans would subscribe to. Smoking cigars, celebrating, getting into it with opposing fans, etc. aren't trademarks of a bad person. They're trademarks of a competitive person.

If you want a pastor then go to church. I want a coach.
 
Underwhelming is the new fake news. Tennessee coaching search is being operated to near perfection. There is no truth to coaches being contacted and not showing interest. To the contrary, agents have contacted Tennessee’s AD to express their clients interest in the job. It is in being a good steward to atleast conduct the process as a nationwide search which was reported. Just because people on the outside looking in are impatient that doesn’t mean the athletic administration should make a quick decision just to appease them.
And I repeat no major candidate was ever not a true option. That is just being leaked by folks that are trying to change the narrative. The numbers once they become official are going to jump off the screen.
 
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Just for the record, I am not responding to you but the "ideas" expressed.

I never said that Danny White was incompetent. Just how "strategic" does one have to be to understand that waiting a few days saves $2 million in buyout? He could have made the decision (on a whim) on Friday and still understood the financials of waiting until the following Monday to make the official announcement. If that were someone's best evidence of a master plan for world domination, to quote Tony Stark (Ironman), "not a good plan."

Unless an AD really has someone waiting in the wings when they fire a basketball coach in March, they damn well better be scrambling to hire a replacement because the musical chairs dance ends pretty quickly this time of year.

I couldn’t disagree more. This has been on Danny’s radar since the Ohio State loss in early December and probably escalated to a multiple 🚨 fire in the next game against MTSU when we were 4-5 on the season. Again, there’s nothing to suggest he’s in scramble mode. Of course time is of the essence now, but it’s been four days since he fired her. The fact there’s been no leaks or hire tells you this is going outside the Lady Vol tree, (which is good). Hiring a good coach, that’s not connected to the program takes time. It took KY two weeks and they landed a huge fish. We are good.
 
Sounds like several are ready to criticize OUR next coach no matter who it is.
I hope UT gets a coach that will be very successful here but I’m not sure the forum members deserve one. JMO
Going to happen either way no matter. There isn't a coach coaching that won't get it and that would include Mulkey and Geno. Dawn would get the least of all she would be a 95 percent accepted hire cause you know your going up real fast.
 
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I didn't know that Walz was one of Freese's assistants for the first four/five years after Freese took the Maryland job, in 2002.
They have very similar backgrounds, similar success, similar age. Both have been at their respective schools for a bit more than 20 years. That's a long time at one place. They are both making big salaries now.
 

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