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I think the biggest problem with Kellie was the product she put on the court early in the year when she lost so many games. The team looked stagnant on both offense and defense. Our defenders could not keep up with the offensive players and the offense had trouble getting clean shots. Often, 3 of the five players were standing still most of the offensive sets and our defense as allowing wide open shots from all over the court, including layups. The team just looked poorly coached. They did look better the later in the year, but still had problems closing out tight games.
This was my thoughts as well. I wanted Harper to succeed, but when I watched them play I knew it wasn't going to happen. The players are a reflection of their coach, many of the players lacked discipline on the court and just had no heart for what they were trying to accomplish. It was obvious to anybody that was objectively watching.
 
Have you seen the Tennessee soccer program the past 2 1/2 years ?
top ten recruiting class, puzzling formations, bleeding transfers to other programs, and a slow descent back into irrelevancy. It’s a real blemish on the idea that Danny White is some sort of infallible AD who’s never made a bad decision.
 
Freese was in the Elite Eight last year, Sweet 16 the previous two years. Her Big Ten Conference winning percentage is...83 percent.

2020–21Maryland26–317–11stNCAA Sweet Sixteen
2021–22Maryland23–913–4T–2ndNCAA Sweet Sixteen
2022–23Maryland28–715–3T–2ndNCAA Elite Eight
2023–24Maryland19–149–9T–6thNCAA First Round
Maryland (Big Ten):274–58 (.825)146–29 (.834)
Last year was the first time in 6 years she made it out of the first weekend and hasn’t been to a Final 4 in 9 years

She’s a little more successful female version of Rick Barnes
 
Last year was the first time in 6 years she made it out of the first weekend and hasn’t been to a Final 4 in 9 years

She’s a little more successful female version of Rick Barnes

And that’s exactly what this program needs right now.

Truth is, we ain’t winning a natty in 2-3 years. Get someone that can consistently win and get the roster back to a SEC roster.
 
top ten recruiting class, puzzling formations, bleeding transfers to other programs, and a slow descent back into irrelevancy. It’s a real blemish on the idea that Danny White is some sort of infallible AD who’s never made a bad decision.
I would step back from this judgement. It was a “hold it together for now” hire. If kids are coming to play for coaches and the head coach leaves, it’s do the least amount of damage until we get the best person.
 
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How can anyone say what Tennessee will look like this upcoming season?

How many people had NC State playing in the Final Four at the beginning of the season?

Or Oregon State getting to the Elite 8?

Or South Carolina needing a buzzer beater to beat Tennessee in the SEC tourney?

At some point, people will stop predicting the future and just watch things unfold.
 
Not a fact, but a feeling.


I just had a weird vision and chill down my spine. The new coach is Brenda Frese. Just felt it in my bones. Mark my words.
11 million payout, though. Not that I don't think she wouldn't be a significant upgrade from Kellie.
 
If you listen to some, NIL was fine and there was a boatload of money available, Kellie just sucked as a recruiter and couldn't close the deal even with money.
If you listen to others, NIL was not fine, and Kellie had to recruit on things other than easily-accessible NIL funding, which didn't work when players got better competing offers.
If you listen to even MORE others, NIL was mediocre, but Kellie recruited more on the history of the program and eschewed focusing on NIL, which cost her when players were looking to hear concrete details about NIL and money.
And if you listen to even MORE MORE others, the groups or individuals who would normally be expected to pitch in on NIL opportunities were not interested in making major commitments before players came to campus and produced results.

What's my point? I don't know. Who is right? I also don't know. It's all a cesspool. I don't even know how much I care. The ones who despised Harper blamed her regardless of their actual insider knowledge, which was next to nothing. The ones who stanned Harper put more of the blame on the NIL landscape and Tennessee's NIL resources, regardless of their actual insider knowledge, which was next to nothing. A few people who do donate or have inside connections have said things here and there, but everyone shouts them down or calls them liars and then goes right on yelling at each other.

One thing is for certain. If Tennessee cannot offer competitive NIL plans for players, all the banners in creation won't get most of them in the door. The era of tradition is passing. Now is the era of money. All things being equal, those dollars do a lot of talking.

Forget the NIL debate which I argue is partially predicated on the enthusiasm generated by the coach and program. She did not recruit well at two P5 jobs before NIL existed. What was the excuse then?
 
If Jeff Walz comes here it will remind me of the presidental candidate who was told by another candidate his wife was ugly and then ended up endorsing that candidate anyway. It was said publically more than once that he wasn't "moral enough" to be an LV coach. Or maybe he'd just want to come anyway for the finger to the eye of the naysayers.

My main objection to him is it feels like he's past his best years. Seems on the decline, as does Brenda Frese.
Jeff just had a streak of like 5 or 6 straight E8s snapped this year. He was in the FF 2 years ago. Brenda also has had great teams the past several years as well. This season is likely a blip in the radar for both, and I full expect both of them to adjust and be ready for next season (if they stayed at their respective schools). Their ceiling is infinitely higher than Kellie's, and that's why I'm hoping this is the quality of candidate that is being considered.
 
Jeff just had a streak of like 5 or 6 straight E8s snapped this year. He was in the FF 2 years ago. Brenda also has had great teams the past several years as well. This season is likely a blip in the radar for both, and I full expect both of them to adjust and be ready for next season (if they stayed at their respective schools). Their ceiling is infinitely higher than Kellie's, and that's why I'm hoping this is the quality of candidate that is being considered.
Hear you, but you never know. They may have both peaked and not be able to match the strength of the top of the SEC and that is the bar in play. It is possible a rising star could out perform them on their way to their peak. DW’s analysis would be nice to have.
 
top ten recruiting class, puzzling formations, bleeding transfers to other programs, and a slow descent back into irrelevancy. It’s a real blemish on the idea that Danny White is some sort of infallible AD who’s never made a bad decision.
I have to think that DW just didn’t really care much about the soccer program - a mistake. The way Pinsky described his exit made it sound like his UT contract extension was in limbo for some time prior to being pursued by FSU. In short, when they called it was a very easy decision. I’m hopeful DW learned from those mistakes (letting Pinsky go without a fight and defaulting his replacement to an assistant). The basketball program is in a totally different class - he has to get this right or people are going to have serious doubts about him being the top-notch AD we think he is.
 
I would step back from this judgement. It was a “hold it together for now” hire. If kids are coming to play for coaches and the head coach leaves, it’s do the least amount of damage until we get the best person.
This is the argument my partner makes. I truthfully get why it’s made, but wow are we in for a rough ride this season. There’s no way anyone looks at soccer’s performance and, if they care, aren’t alarmed. We’ll probably have an answer about the amount of care given to soccer in the next year or so, I’d hope.
 
This was my thoughts as well. I wanted Harper to succeed, but when I watched them play I knew it wasn't going to happen. The players are a reflection of their coach, many of the players lacked discipline on the court and just had no heart for what they were trying to accomplish. It was obvious to anybody that was objectively watching.
I think there were many fans that were watching with orange glasses on.
 
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