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ranradVOL

ranradVOL

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I've seen people on this board blaming everything from the coaching, to the players, to tatoos :)crazy:). Basketball is not football. We are going to lose games. We are going to not play well some nights.

We played horribly and took the #6 team in the country to the final seconds. Relax and just enjoy watching this season because it's going to be fun (unless you complain about every pass/shot/possession like many of you do).

I've said my peace.
 
#3
#3
Do you also enjoy getting bounced in the 2nd round of the tourney? Our guys were way more athletic than Purdue. I will complain when we turn the ball over so much, jack up 3s way to often, the 2 best players are not productive at all. So if you enjoy underacheiving pretty much every season then this year should be a joy for you.
 
#4
#4
Valid points. This team probably doesn't have the skill or basketball IQ to be a Final Four team, but they can still be pretty good and win a bunch of games. Perhaps BPearl will eventually have good basketball players as well as good athletes.
 
#5
#5
cbrown said:
Valid points. This team probably doesn't have the skill or basketball IQ to be a Final Four team, but they can still be pretty good and win a bunch of games. Perhaps BPearl will eventually have good basketball players as well as good athletes.
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I think they will do pretty good, just don't expect them to go further than the sweet 16. I would love to be wrong.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Do you also enjoy getting bounced in the 2nd round of the tourney? Our guys were way more athletic than Purdue. I will complain when we turn the ball over so much, jack up 3s way to often, the 2 best players are not productive at all. So if you enjoy underacheiving pretty much every season then this year should be a joy for you.
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We may have been more athletic but Purdue is very physical and and they are ranked ahead of us... but this Tennessee gets no respect till they prove they can win. Oh and Hopson will be coming back next year:p
 
#8
#8
My bball knowledge is extensive enough to know that we were dominating inside and to let BMaze run around the top of the key for 12 sec. before passing to Chism and to NOT CALL A TIMEOUT is absolutely ridiculous..Bruce really needs to get some set offensive plays for situations like that, because we will be losing a lot more if not.
 
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ranradVOL said:
I've seen people on this board blaming everything from the coaching, to the players, to tatoos :)crazy:). Basketball is not football. We are going to lose games. We are going to not play well some nights.

We played horribly and took the #6 team in the country to the final seconds. Relax and just enjoy watching this season because it's going to be fun (unless you complain about every pass/shot/possession like many of you do).

I've said my peace.
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If you like to see bad play against good competition, then I am sure you will enjoy this season's ride.
 
#10
#10
Here's to you Tennessee fans:

You're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
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#11
#11
volfanjustin said:
Do you also enjoy getting bounced in the 2nd round of the tourney? Our guys were way more athletic than Purdue. I will complain when we turn the ball over so much, jack up 3s way to often, the 2 best players are not productive at all. So if you enjoy underacheiving pretty much every season then this year should be a joy for you.
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Wow...Basketball is not about who is more athletic...Its about ball movement, Coaching and playing together as a team.

Tennessee is not underachieving yet...Last year we were young and the 2 years before that we did pretty well with mediocre type players and young guys in Chism and Tyler Smith.

This year is Bruce Pearls year to make a name for himself. He has an experienced team and they will be better then last year.

It was also the 3rd game of the year and it was a preseason Tournament....Who cares now we know that even when we are shooting terrible and not making plays we can still be in a game with a top opponent...

If Mid season we are not doing well then you can say we are underachieving. Lets keep the faith it was just one game...
 
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ballerCALIvol said:
My bball knowledge is extensive enough to know that we were dominating inside and to let BMaze run around the top of the key for 12 sec. before passing to Chism and to NOT CALL A TIMEOUT is absolutely ridiculous..Bruce really needs to get some set offensive plays for situations like that, because we will be losing a lot more if not.
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He called back to back timeouts right before that and I am sure that the team was well aware of what they were going to do after the free throws. This is not something new for Bruce Pearl everyone on that team knows how he coaches and knew he was not going to take a timeout. Chism was open he just missed the shot.

You take that shot everytime. They are not going to call a foul in the last seconds you have seen that many times before so a big man driving to the lane is not the best option...

Chism has hit many 3's in his time at Tennessee he just missed that one. If i am not mistaken did he not hit one the last game at the end to pretty much seal the win for us against Depaul?

Same scenario just different result this time.
 
#13
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ranradVOL said:
I've seen people on this board blaming everything from the coaching, to the players, to tatoos :)crazy:). Basketball is not football. We are going to lose games. We are going to not play well some nights.

We played horribly and took the #6 team in the country to the final seconds. Relax and just enjoy watching this season because it's going to be fun (unless you complain about every pass/shot/possession like many of you do).

I've said my peace.
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I agree with this for the most part. Basketball is not football and teams lose all the time. Do you think UNC fans were yelling for Roy Williams' head after they lost to Syracuse the other night? No. The beauty of it is that there IS a playoff system in place. This was an early test and losing by 1 point to the #6 team in the country is not the end of the world. Teams get better as the season goes on. Get over it.

PS - I'm still grateful that we actually have a competitive men's basketball team. As long as BP keeps bringing in good talent the wins will keep coming.
 
#14
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m37bruno said:
Wow...Basketball is not about who is more athletic...Its about ball movement, Coaching and playing together as a team.

Tennessee is not underachieving yet...Last year we were young and the 2 years before that we did pretty well with mediocre type players and young guys in Chism and Tyler Smith.

This year is Bruce Pearls year to make a name for himself. He has an experienced team and they will be better then last year.

It was also the 3rd game of the year and it was a preseason Tournament....Who cares now we know that even when we are shooting terrible and not making plays we can still be in a game with a top opponent...

If Mid season we are not doing well then you can say we are underachieving. Lets keep the faith it was just one game...
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It may not be all about who is more athletic, we have athletes, they had a couple we have more athletes. There are many variables that go into having a good basketball team and we don't have many of them.

The last couple of seasons we have underachieved, there is no denying that and we will this year as well. This style of offense will not get us past the sweet 16.
 
#16
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ranradVOL said:
I've seen people on this board blaming everything from the coaching, to the players, to tatoos :)crazy:). Basketball is not football. We are going to lose games. We are going to not play well some nights.

We played horribly and took the #6 team in the country to the final seconds. Relax and just enjoy watching this season because it's going to be fun (unless you complain about every pass/shot/possession like many of you do).

I've said my peace.
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So your saying it is like football.
 
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volfanjustin said:
It may not be all about who is more athletic, we have athletes, they had a couple we have more athletes. There are many variables that go into having a good basketball team and we don't have many of them.

The last couple of seasons we have underachieved, there is no denying that and we will this year as well. This style of offense will not get us past the sweet 16.
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Underachieved??? We had a decent team with a Jujuan Smith and Lofton but that team was young with T.Smith and Chism and Duke Crews...We won because they played together as a team and we had pretty decent guard play and we were knocking down shots. I would say Pearl overachieved his first 2 years and then last year we had more youth at the shooting spots in Hopson and Tatum...and not very good guard play at all.....But we were not suppossed to be the greatest last year. Only returning players with real experience were Smith and Chism....Hopson, Tatum, Maze, Jp, and Brian Williams were all coming into their own last year and started playing better as the year was ending.


I dont understand when people say if we ran a better offense....What offense do you want to run??? We run plays to get players in advantages and mismatches. If you are looking for a set play your not going to get that from Bruce many times...

The best offense is to get a player in a mismatch and go one-on-one to the basket and either go up strong or dish the ball to an open player to take a shot. Penetration is the key to a good offense...Either with a screen and roll or a player to take his man off the dribble...Ball movement and moving without the ball key for Bruces offense and I think they do a pretty good job running it...If he had a little better point guard play then you would see how well his offense really works.
 
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#19
Some of these people are acting just like kentucky fans, no matter what you can't please them. Always got to pick something out. If he would have made the shot, how many people would still be wanting a time out called?
 
#21
#21
As much as I love UT Football I can't watch Tennessee Basketabll and I am a huge college basketball fan... Bruce Pearl is a good coach but their halfcourt offense is terrible, they take a lot of bad shots, and are not a smart basketball team... I still root for them but I live 5 minutes down the road from Villanova whos alwasy been my squad... I'd like to see that matchup in the tournament sometime
 
#22
#22
ridethelightening said:
Here's to you Tennessee fans:

You're hot then you're cold
You're yes then you're no
You're in and you're out
You're up and you're down
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Haha ... sad, but true.

Despite the loss, I (for one) am fairly pleased with last night. We played so-so and took a Top 10 team to the wire -- probably should have won.
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#24
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VolinMichigan said:
I agree with this for the most part. Basketball is not football and teams lose all the time. Do you think UNC fans were yelling for Roy Williams' head after they lost to Syracuse the other night? No. The beauty of it is that there IS a playoff system in place. This was an early test and losing by 1 point to the #6 team in the country is not the end of the world. Teams get better as the season goes on. Get over it.
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That's because Roy Williams has proven that his teams do improve and come tournament time, they are able to win the Championship. And UNC is very young, compared to our veteran team.

Pearl has shown that his teams do not improve as the season goes on and his style never does well in the Tournament. If Pearl had the resume and coaching ability of Williams, I wouldn't be worried one. But since we are an experienced team, and STILL showing the same signs as last years team is very discouraging.
 
#25
#25
m37bruno said:
Underachieved??? We had a decent team with a Jujuan Smith and Lofton but that team was young with T.Smith and Chism and Duke Crews...We won because they played together as a team and we had pretty decent guard play and we were knocking down shots. I would say Pearl overachieved his first 2 years and then last year we had more youth at the shooting spots in Hopson and Tatum...and not very good guard play at all.....But we were not suppossed to be the greatest last year. Only returning players with real experience were Smith and Chism....Hopson, Tatum, Maze, Jp, and Brian Williams were all coming into their own last year and started playing better as the year was ending.


I dont understand when people say if we ran a better offense....What offense do you want to run??? We run plays to get players in advantages and mismatches. If you are looking for a set play your not going to get that from Bruce many times...

The best offense is to get a player in a mismatch and go one-on-one to the basket and either go up strong or dish the ball to an open player to take a shot. Penetration is the key to a good offense...Either with a screen and roll or a player to take his man off the dribble...Ball movement and moving without the ball key for Bruces offense and I think they do a pretty good job running it...If he had a little better point guard play then you would see how well his offense really works.
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Shooting more 3s than 2s in a tournament game against a much smaller Ok. St. team or shooting a 3 when you only trail by 1 is a brilliant offensive strategy.
 
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