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#26
#26
volfanjustin said:
Do you also enjoy getting bounced in the 2nd round of the tourney? Our guys were way more athletic than Purdue. I will complain when we turn the ball over so much, jack up 3s way to often, the 2 best players are not productive at all. So if you enjoy underacheiving pretty much every season then this year should be a joy for you.
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We had better athletes and they had better 'basketball players' so what is your point? You think because JP is tall and can run and jump better than Hummell that he gives us a better chance to win?
 
#27
#27
therickbol said:
We had better athletes and they had better 'basketball players' so what is your point? You think because JP is tall and can run and jump better than Hummell that he gives us a better chance to win?
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It's the coaches job to turn these athletes into ball players, and so far, that has not happened since he's been here.
 
#28
#28
So under that logic you think if E'Twan Moore had come to UT he would be a worse basketball player than he is now? Or better yet, do you think if JP Prince had been at Purdue his whole career that he would be a better basketball player? Nope. There is a point to be made about 'coaching up' our players. I think there has been some mixed reviews on that front. But its a false assumption to just assume that every great athlete has the ability to be 'coached up' and become a great basketball player. JP Prince would not be a great basketball player under the guidance of any coach in America. Hopson would not be a superstar right now just because he was being coached by Roy Williams.
 
#29
#29
How do you know how these player's would have turned out under other coaches. You just criticized me for saying the exact same thing you did. Good job.

And yes, I do believe our players would be better under a coach like Roy Williams.
 
#30
#30
therickbol said:
We had better athletes and they had better 'basketball players' so what is your point? You think because JP is tall and can run and jump better than Hummell that he gives us a better chance to win?
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As a whole we have better athletes than they do. I think we have better players as well, our players just are not well coached and are undisciplined.
 
#31
#31
We will just have to disagree on this point. I dont think JP Prince's offensive game would be any better if he had been under Williams for the last 3 years. Its just not in him. I dont think Hopson would be any more mentally tough right now if he had gone to UNC. Not everything is under the control of the coach. If you want to agrue about when to call timeouts and other actions that are directly under the control of the coach then that is fine. I dont think 'player development' is a critical issue at our program.
 
#34
#34
volfanjustin said:
Shooting more 3s than 2s in a tournament game against a much smaller Ok. St. team or shooting a 3 when you only trail by 1 is a brilliant offensive strategy.
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Shooting in general last year was a challenge for this whole team....either from 2 or 3...

And what difference does it make if Chism takes a runner in the lane with someone running right at his face or he shoots a WIDE OPEN 3...He missed the shot...The man had 24 points in the game and was playing great...Again I will ask the question...Did he not hit a similar shot the night before against DePaul to help seal the win???

So if I am correct on that then why would you not expect him to take the same shot WIDE OPEN again?
 
#35
#35
The knock that Pearl can't put players in the NBA will be gone in 2-3 years. By that time, Tyler, Scotty, Chism, and Tobias should be on a league roster.
 
#38
#38
ranradVOL said:
I've seen people on this board blaming everything from the coaching, to the players, to tatoos :)crazy:).
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I skipped that thread, mainly because the first and last posters are on my ignore list. Also, I suspected it would be a steaming pile of silliness.

From the responses here, it sounds as if I didn't miss anything, which means the ignore function is working perfectly.

Thanks again to the mods for that little gem:hi:
 
#40
#40
[QUOTE I've said my peace.[/QUOTE]

Actually, you've said your piece.

If Vol fans were all as knowledgeable as their detractors would like them to be, they wouldn't be fans - they'd be coaches.
 
#41
#41
m37bruno said:
He called back to back timeouts right before that and I am sure that the team was well aware of what they were going to do after the free throws. This is not something new for Bruce Pearl everyone on that team knows how he coaches and knew he was not going to take a timeout. Chism was open he just missed the shot.

You take that shot everytime. They are not going to call a foul in the last seconds you have seen that many times before so a big man driving to the lane is not the best option...

Chism has hit many 3's in his time at Tennessee he just missed that one. If i am not mistaken did he not hit one the last game at the end to pretty much seal the win for us against Depaul?

Same scenario just different result this time.
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LOL @ anyone who thinks chism is money from 3. 32% is not a good % from 3.
 
#42
#42
volfanjustin said:
As a whole we have better athletes than they do. I think we have better players as well, our players just are not well coached and are undisciplined.
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Maybe you would rather us just bring back buzz and his players. I find it unbelievable people don't like Pearl or what he's done with this program. I suppose we should fire pat summit too. and kiffin. Lets just fire every coach in the program that doesn't win a championship every year. screw it let's bring in urban meyer, Roy williams, and Geno Auriemma. That would satisfy some of you fans huh?
 
#43
#43
the goal here is be an elite program. that is the expectation on Pearl. there's no question he brought renewed excitement and attention to UT basketball.... along with some nice wins and good seasons. but SEC east championships won't make us an elite program... and neither will running plays for wayne chism to shoot 3 point shots when we need an important bucket. did you see roy williams running plays for tyler hansborough to shoot 15-18 jump shots? is hansborough decent from that range... yeah he's ok... but he's much better scoring from the post. you get the point i hope.
 
#44
#44
tclowers23 said:
The knock that Pearl can't put players in the NBA will be gone in 2-3 years. By that time, Tyler, Scotty, Chism, and Tobias should be on a league roster.
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until Tyler shows he has a consistent jump shot... he's in the D-League.

Chism chances are slim... he's not tall enough to play power forward in the NBA... and there's no way he can play small forward. he's not a shot blocker, he's not an "energy player"... like birdman, dejuan blair, or tyrus thomas (who is 6-10 and jumps out of the gym). Chism chances would be better if he was a really physical, intimidating type player, a "beast" who fights on the boards and can possibly develop a good jump shot. he's a good D-1 player... but thats it.

Hopson... his reputation is that he has serious NBA potential. i haven't seen it yet.

BUT if someone thinks we have 3 NBA players on this team... well then anything short of a Final Four is a huge disappointment.
 
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#45
#45
BasketVolKid said:
until Tyler shows he has a consistent jump shot... he's in the D-League.

Chism chances are slim... he's not tall enough to play power forward in the NBA... and there's no way he can play small forward. he's not a shot blocker, he's not an "energy player"... like birdman, dejuan blair, or tyrus thomas (who is 6-10 and jumps out of the gym). Chism chances would be better if he was more of a "beast". he's a good D-1 player... but thats it.

Hopson... his reputation is that he has serious NBA potential. i haven't seen it yet.

BUT if someone thinks we have 3 NBA players on this team... well then anything short of a Final Four is a huge disappointment.
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Chism has more offensive skill than anyone you listed as a comp.
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#46
#46
yes he does... but is he gonna score in the low post against NBA power forwards who are ALL bigger than him?

is he gonna out rebound NBA power forwards?

does he really have enough of an outside shot to warrant being undersized for his position?

no, no and no. so the next question is does he have some intangibles like birdman, blair... etc. again... unless he really shows us something this season... the answer again is no.
 
#47
#47
VOLS INC. said:
Maybe you would rather us just bring back buzz and his players. I find it unbelievable people don't like Pearl or what he's done with this program. I suppose we should fire pat summit too. and kiffin. Lets just fire every coach in the program that doesn't win a championship every year. screw it let's bring in urban meyer, Roy williams, and Geno Auriemma. That would satisfy some of you fans huh?
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#50
#50
VOLS INC. said:
Maybe you would rather us just bring back buzz and his players. I find it unbelievable people don't like Pearl or what he's done with this program. I suppose we should fire pat summit too. and kiffin. Lets just fire every coach in the program that doesn't win a championship every year. screw it let's bring in urban meyer, Roy williams, and Geno Auriemma. That would satisfy some of you fans huh?
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Did I say I don't like what he has done? No, I said I really like him and he has taken this program where I did not think it could go. But we have hit a ceiling under him. With this style of play we will not any further than the sweet 16 at best. Our players are not well coached and they have little discipline.
 
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