Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth in 11 Minutes

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BayVol7 said:
Isn’t one option enough? He could have attempted to stand up and fight with the gun on his back. He could have surrendered the gun, given what had just occurred. Maybe the two individuals who reacted would have acted differently. He could have just allowed himself to get hit. I believe someone would have ultimately come to his rescue.

I can already see the hate responses upcoming but the point is there were other options that could have resulted in no one dying (and imo no serious bodily harm). The one with the gun should bear the most responsibility in a chaotic situation such as this one.
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You keep saying things like "you believe" or "maybe". You suggest KR could have chosen another option. Everyone involved could have made different decisions that could have led to a multitude of other options. If Guy #2 or Guy #3 had killed KR, would you have believed them guilty of murder, or would it still be KR's fault because "he had a gun" and "the guy with the gun should bear the most responsibility"? It's like you've abandoned all logic.
 
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BayVol7 said:
Isn’t one option enough? He could have attempted to stand up and fight with the gun on his back. He could have surrendered the gun, given what had just occurred. Maybe the two individuals who reacted would have acted differently. He could have just allowed himself to get hit. I believe someone would have ultimately come to his rescue.

I can already see the hate responses upcoming but the point is there were other options that could have resulted in no one dying (and imo no serious bodily harm). The one with the gun should bear the most responsibility in a chaotic situation such as this one.
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Hahaha.
Hmmm, felon number three ( the one that survived) comes to mind.
 
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BayVol7 said:
Isn’t one option enough? He could have attempted to stand up and fight with the gun on his back. He could have surrendered the gun, given what had just occurred. Maybe the two individuals who reacted would have acted differently. He could have just allowed himself to get hit. I believe someone would have ultimately come to his rescue.

I can already see the hate responses upcoming but the point is there were other options that could have resulted in no one dying (and imo no serious bodily harm). The one with the gun should bear the most responsibility in a chaotic situation such as this one.
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Why do you expect anyone being attacked to just take it, and not fight back? You've cried for days, and pages, because people didn't get away with attacking someone. It's an ignorant stance
 
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lawgator1 said:
Do you think that any citizen of the United States is warranted in driving to wherever they see protests, arming themselves, and walking around waiting for, indeed hoping for, a confrontation?

I just think that's dangerous at a lot of levels.
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Do you think any citizen is warranted in driving to wherever they see protests, and going around attacking people, stealing, and burning stuff? You guys, and I mean the left because none of you condemn that, never seen to be upset over that. You'll spend days, and multiple threads, upset over people fighting back though?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Do you think that any citizen of the United States is warranted in driving to wherever they see protests, arming themselves, and walking around waiting for, indeed hoping for, a confrontation?

I just think that's dangerous at a lot of levels.
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If they're not breaking any laws, yes. The big lie here is saying KR was looking for a confrontation. Simply carrying a gun does not invite confrontation. In fact, it should do the opposite. Pretending KR started this when it was the first guy killed who initiated it all is irresponsible on every level.
 
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Weezer said:
I keep going back to the first guy to attack KR. It boggles my mind that some cannot see, he's the one that initiated the situation. Had he not chased KR, KR would not have shot him. Even if you believe KR was there to play Billy Badass, he clearly tried to flee and was pursued. He didn't just start shooting willy-nilly. And if your argument is "he shouldn't have been there", then you're ignoring he had the same right to be there as those who attacked him. Finally, if your argument is "he had a gun", he didn't use it until he was literally chased after by Guy #1. His first choice was to try and flee. When that didn't work, he protected himself.


Just seems to me that everyone pointing fingers at KR really needs to be pointing them at Guy#1. He may be dead, but he's the one that initiated the whole damn mess.
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It really is that simple
 
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BayVol7 said:
I don’t think the instances given are similar.
Had I already killed a man? I wouldn’t run away from that in the 1st place. I’d like to say ultimately that I’m putting the gun on my back and I’m standing up to fight. Or I’d shoot in the air. I’d definitely realize the power of my actions and what I had already done.
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Did you watch ANY of the trial? Do you have any concept of what that mob wanted? Or are you just a dumbazz troll?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You can’t legally shoot in the air moron. That’s reckless endangerment
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True. There are many cases of the bullet coming back down at rapid speed striking someone.

In another story, I had a leak coming from my ceiling. I had a roof repairman come to my house to evaluate the issue. The diagnosis was that someone had shot in the air somewhere and the bullet came back down striking my roof and stopping in the attic somewhere. He told me it happens more often than we relieve and the velocity of the impact can randomly kill.
 
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C-south said:
LOL. If you don't know that makes what you said even dumber.
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I'm assuming we're still talking about beating people up because of bumper stickers with 1vol.

Edit: BTW, you call me dumb, but I've got a feeling you jumped into a conversation assuming I think Rittenhouse had provoked these guys or something. If you'd explain the "situation" maybe you'll help me be smart like you.
 
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1vol8 said:
I know you’re not. But that doesn’t mean the left isn’t. This is bigger than just BLM and riots. We have a tyrannical, radical left government in place at the White House. Democrats have the house and the senate right now and they are trying with everything they have to strike while the iron is hot and take rights and freedoms away. Meanwhile, there’s BLM rioting with no consequences. Innocent people are being killed and put out of business as a result. But let one kid (Rittenhouse) be the first to physically stand up and he was nearly buried for the rest of his life. The ONLY thing that saved him is the 2A and that’s the freedom they want to take away the most.
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I dont think things are as bad as all that. Every election, the losers act like the sky is falling. Granted I'm concerned about inflation/economy, but i don't think guns are going to be confiscated and dissidents rounded up. I don’t excuse the rioting and I think the guys that are lighting fires, looting, or breaking stuff are cowards. But once you get so pizzed off that someone starts attacking people cause they voted for the other party, they become just as bad.
 
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joevol33 said:
Do you think any citizen is warranted in driving to wherever they see protests, and going around attacking people, stealing, and burning stuff? You guys, and I mean the left because none of you condemn that, never seen to be upset over that. You'll spend days, and multiple threads, upset over people fighting back though?
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Two words.....mostly peaceful.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I dont think things are as bad as all that. Every election, the losers act like the sky is falling. Granted I'm concerned about inflation/economy, but i don't think guns are going to be confiscated and dissidents rounded up. I don’t excuse the rioting and I think the guys that are lighting fires, looting, or breaking stuff are cowards. But once you get so pizzed off that someone starts attacking people cause they voted for the other party, they become just as bad.
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You being left, no matter how deep, explains why you have no idea how bad it is. If I had to guess, you’re not listening to the right on your day to day to get a gauge on it. Trust me, it’s getting worse than you think.
 
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1vol8 said:
You being left, no matter how deep, explains why you have no idea how bad it is. If I had to guess, you’re not listening to the right on your day to day to get a gauge on it. Trust me, it’s getting worse than you think.
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I live in a pretty red area. Most of my friends vote conservative. I hear it all the time and I'm probably not as left as you might think. That being said, listening to the right doesn't mean that their accurate in all their takes. They may very well believe some of these scenarios, but it doesn't mean they're actually going to happen.
 
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