Kyle Serrano #25 ESPN 2013 Draft Prospect

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So I was very surprised to hear Kyle is rated by ESPN as the #25 overall (college/HS/JUCO) player eligible for the draft this year. That's eye-openingly high. I figured he was a top 100, probably top 50 HS guy, but 25th overall is scary high. Does anyone closer to this have an idea of how he feels about college vs. signing, as a potential first round pick.

I think he really should come as long as we can get some arms in to take pressure off him. We do not want to keep needing guys to go the distance to even have a chance, especially not highly touted freshmen. No one this caliber shows up to a rebuilding program like ours unless daddy is coach. It would be absolutely massive to get Kyle on campus.
 
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1st round money and he has to take the money! No idea if that is his thinking.

Side note: how many 1st rounders get knocked around like he did last week vs Maryville? Perhaps that outing hurt his stock
 
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BV, in the Maryville game, Serrano threw 5 innings and surrendered one earned run on two hits and three walks. He had 8 Ks and left after 5, down 2-1. That hardly qualifies as getting "knocked around."

This is Kyle's first real HS varsity season where he has been healthy. He is still growing and will continue to improve. The college experience would be very good for him but, it's hard to improve on first round status.

If he remains healthy, he will become a much better pitcher over the next three years whether he is at UT or in the minors. Either decision has its plusses and minuses but I applaud him on getting himself in that position.
 
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Yep. That stat line isn't bad. I thought he gave up 5 runs but I guess I was told incorrectly
 
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Burke and the other commentator discussed this issue yesterday during the telecast. I was surprised to learn that CDS let him go through a normal recruitment. I don't know if he made visits, but they mentioned Florida and South Carolina.

Seems he has decided on Tennessee and now the decision is between UT and MLB. This is gonna be a tough one, and I agree with Backwards K, congratulations to KS for getting into this position. Whatever the decision, I support CDS and KS and wish them the best.
 
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vol66 said:
Whatever the decision, I support CDS and KS and wish them the best.
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I agree if its 1st round money but if he signs for 200k-400k then I will certainly not support that decision. That would cripple DS ability to keep kids coming to school.
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree if its 1st round money but if he signs for 200k-400k then I will certainly not support that decision. That would cripple DS ability to keep kids coming to school.
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I don't know enough about "1st round money" or how all that works. I do think it's a much more complex decision than money vs. education and because dad happens to be the coach it's even more complex.

The flip side is that dad has been through the entire process from about every angle, they are in a far better position to figure this out...better than most families in the situation, certainly better than a guy like me.
 
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vol66 said:
I don't know enough about "1st round money" or how all that works. I do think it's a much more complex decision than money vs. education and because dad happens to be the coach it's even more complex.

The flip side is that dad has been through the entire process from about every angle, they are in a far better position to figure this out...better than most families in the situation, certainly better than a guy like me.
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No doubt DS is comfortable with the process. That's my point. The rest of the SEC is getting kids to school regularly that are turning down big money. Vandy is getting seemly one per year to turn down 7 figures(1st round money). If Kyle signs it will hurt DS ability to tell recruits and their families that tenn is better than pro ball. If he gets 1st round money at least he can claim that 7digits was the line drawn in the sand when his signees are drafted.
 
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vol66 said:
I don't know enough about "1st round money" or how all that works. I do think it's a much more complex decision than money vs. education and because dad happens to be the coach it's even more complex.

The flip side is that dad has been through the entire process from about every angle, they are in a far better position to figure this out...better than most families in the situation, certainly better than a guy like me.
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vol66 said:
I don't know enough about "1st round money" or how all that works. I do think it's a much more complex decision than money vs. education and because dad happens to be the coach it's even more complex.

The flip side is that dad has been through the entire process from about every angle, they are in a far better position to figure this out...better than most families in the situation, certainly better than a guy like me.
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I think the complex part of this is the state of the program. With such a lack of pitching, Kyle can safely say he will be relied on heavily early. That's not an optimal position for a lot of 18 year olds. I do not know anything about Kyle's makeup to say if he is a guy that can be who we need him to be and it not affect him later on. I'm sure dad does, though. I hope he want's to be that guy and can handle the adversity he'll certainly face in this conference.

It is HUGE that dad has experience with this. Even if Kyle was committed elsewhere, he is more likely to go to school with his family as is than someone with less/no experience. College gives a kid better facilities, better instruction, and better exposure than you get in the minors. It's a faster path to the show in most cases as well. Not to mention... Its college. No one should miss out on that experience.

Kyle will get some serious googly eyes over numbers thrown at him in June. When he does, he will turn to dad. Hopefully coach can steer him to UT.
 
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CDS will ensure that he isn't "overpitched", he will certainly improve and make him more valuable in the future. I think he will be a Vol and I'm sure it will made dad happy. GBO!!
 
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Serrano should point to Beede who was in a similar position and went to vandy. He now has the chance to be the top arm in the draft next year.

That's a difference of about 5-6 mil
 
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BigOrange51 said:
I think the complex part of this is the state of the program. With such a lack of pitching, Kyle can safely say he will be relied on heavily early. That's not an optimal position for a lot of 18 year olds. I do not know anything about Kyle's makeup to say if he is a guy that can be who we need him to be and it not affect him later on. I'm sure dad does, though. I hope he want's to be that guy and can handle the adversity he'll certainly face in this conference.

It is HUGE that dad has experience with this. Even if Kyle was committed elsewhere, he is more likely to go to school with his family as is than someone with less/no experience. College gives a kid better facilities, better instruction, and better exposure than you get in the minors. It's a faster path to the show in most cases as well. Not to mention... Its college. No one should miss out on that experience.

Kyle will get some serious googly eyes over numbers thrown at him in June. When he does, he will turn to dad. Hopefully coach can steer him to UT.
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I don't really disagree with what you posted, I'm just coming from a different place. You and Bruin seem to be coming from a "what he can do for the program" stand point. I'm coming from a "it's a family decision, do what's best for the kid" stand point.

We need all the help we can get, so I'd love for it to work out for us, but if, for whatever reason, it doesn't work out, I can't see being mad about it.

As for the state of the program, I think CDS got on a plane to California right after the ETSU game looking for "pitching, pitching, pitching and more pitching". If KS decides on UT, great, but we need a lot more than one and of course CDS knows this.
 
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I forget sometimes that in addition to Serrano we signed 5 other pitchers, 4 of them JUCO guys, 2 of those are at Walters State, can't seem to find any stats on them though. Robbie Kidd will be back next season after red shirting this year.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
I was referring to the "come to UT" angle. As in, here are the benefits.
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I know but IMO first round money is must go. Too much to risk. I know some of the vandy guys have made it pay off but many others have lost big. If my son has a 7digit offer my advice is to sign as quickly as possible.
 
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vol66 said:
I forget sometimes that in addition to Serrano we signed 5 other pitchers, 4 of them JUCO guys, 2 of those are at Walters State, can't seem to find any stats on them though. Robbie Kidd will be back next season after red shirting this year.
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One Walters arm had TJ and the other has been bad this year. No help from those 2
 
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BA has Kyle at #47 in their Midseason Update, published on April 4. A few days later, in their "On the rise" feature, they quote a National league scout as saying, “He’s just blowing up...from a guy that you expected he’s going to be playing for his dad to a kid that you really need to figure out the signability on pretty early." They talk about how impressive the stuff is, amidst an effortless delivery. Went from a high 80's to a low 90's guy, touching 95.
 
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Just for perspective on the dollars associated with the rankings mentioned so far in this thread:

Last year, the 25th high school player was the 48th player drafted, signed for $950,000, which was below his slot value of $1,052,500.

The 47th high school player selected was the 87th player drafted, signed for $600,000, which was above his slot value of $565,600.
 
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ShowmeVols said:
Just for perspective on the dollars associated with the rankings mentioned so far in this thread:

Last year, the 25th high school player was the 48th player drafted, signed for $950,000, which was below his slot value of $1,052,500.

The 47th high school player selected was the 87th player drafted, signed for $600,000, which was above his slot value of $565,600.
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Am I wrong here...the rankings here include college and high school players, so this guy is saying he's a top 25 player, right? What did the 25th pick get last year?
 
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vol66 said:
Am I wrong here...the rankings here include college and high school players, so this guy is saying he's a top 25 player, right? What did the 25th pick get last year?
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Those figures were for all included in the draft.
 
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