Lady Vols - Turnovers

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LadyVols_WBK said:
Kellie must see something in her to give her an offer last year and great coaching once she arrives might do wonders for her
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I believe Kelly will get a lot of out of that girl because she is a type athlete that so far Kelly seems to have the most success with. Athletes whose confidence a coach has to blow up I don't do well with and that seems to be what miles is but I believe if you get the best game out of her and consistent effort you've got yourself a hell of a baller
 
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Nute Gunray said:
Absolutely correct about Horston. I am still hoping she can bring her game to the next level. The LVs will be a top 4 team if she can.
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I would say after last night's game, they are a top 3 team already. They need to play with the energy and emotion they had last night. I hope this game gave them confidence in themselves to continue to play every game like last night.
 
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Some keys from this game moving forward: 1. Ms. Salary needs more minutes at the point, she's a diamond in the rough. 2. Ms. Davis as good as she is needs to be elite all game long all the time. Off performances is becoming too frequent. 3. Ms. Key has a great deal of promise, but has to get stronger and more aggressive which I hope and believe will come in time. 4. Team wise we have to dictate and dominate the first and last 5 min. of halves. 5. We have to get better at shooting 3's from each position as a part of the natural flow of the offense. It stresses the zone defense, and attacks and breaks the will of the opponent. 6. JH is the ?, do you keep her at point to get more experience, or do you set her lose as a scorer at the 2? This team in getting is getting better all the time, and could be very dangerous down the road.
 
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I remember in hindsight, (my words for some) the criticism of Westbrook, and of Rae in their initial years, especially after a game of poor performance. This thread is balanced as we know the team played well...but.

They are for me 1. a "team" 2. performing to the game plan of the coach, 3 communicating well on the floor and 4. playing with energy 40 minutes each game. In year two I submit those are significant over some previous years and all are essential to become an elite team.
 
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DonDiego said:
This team needs a leader at point guard. How can Kellie of all people not see this? They need a Kellie or Shanna or Kara. Horston needs to be a wing--with a short leash. Davis doesn't have the 'want to', Rhea (Rea?) is a warrior.
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I said all offseason Kellie completely failed this team by not addressing the point guard position after Massengill departed. Hell, with even AVERAGE point guard play Tennessee wins last night, and is likely undefeated right now.

Coaching malpractice...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I said all offseason Kellie completely failed this team by not addressing the point guard position after Massengill departed. Hell, with even AVERAGE point guard play Tennessee wins last night, and is likely undefeated right now.

Coaching malpractice...
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great PG's wont just fall into her lap ya know...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I said all offseason Kellie completely failed this team by not addressing the point guard position after Massengill departed. Hell, with even AVERAGE point guard play Tennessee wins last night, and is likely undefeated right now.

Coaching malpractice...
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Over the top. We don't know at all she didn't address the need. In fact, it defies logic to think she didn't. She got what she could get. I still haven't given up that we could patch together just enough PG play btw JH, JW and Salary to get by. Not ideal, but what we have. Certainly we need the perfect coach-on- the-floor PG who can also shoot 3s. Who doesn't?

That said, I'm curious about a comment surrounding Massengill's departure. It was said player and coach did not agree on vision of the PG position or something like that. I always wondered what that meant.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I said all offseason Kellie completely failed this team by not addressing the point guard position after Massengill departed. Hell, with even AVERAGE point guard play Tennessee wins last night, and is likely undefeated right now.

Coaching malpractice...
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The PG that Coach K brought in played arguably her best game against the connies,,,take away a thin-skinned-zebra call and her game was what it had to be
 
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Darth_Vol said:
I said all offseason Kellie completely failed this team by not addressing the point guard position after Massengill departed. Hell, with even AVERAGE point guard play Tennessee wins last night, and is likely undefeated right now.

Coaching malpractice...
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You called that for sure. PG is the weakness on this team. Imagine if they got a transfer like Jordan Nixon over at TAMU.
 
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glv98 said:
That said, I'm curious about a comment surrounding Massengill's departure. It was said player and coach did not agree on vision of the PG position or something like that. I always wondered what that meant.
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What's interesting also is that she's playing a smaller role at UK than she would have played at Tennessee, and she's pretty much the same player except she's not as reluctant to shoot the ball anymore. I don't care what anyone who bid her good riddance says: she would have logged major minutes because she was the best PG on the team by far.

I posted in another thread that Holly allowed a bad environment to fester for too long. Massengill probably had enough, and it was too late for Kellie to change her mind.
 
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Coach Jumper said:
The PG that Coach K brought in played arguably her best game against the connies,,,take away a thin-skinned-zebra call and her game was what it had to be
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I feel like she's (Walker) played better. She was 1-9 shooting and had 3 t.o.s. She did, however, have 5 assists, 4 rebounds, and 3 steals in 19 mins which isn't bad.

I wouldn't be opposed to starting JW at PG, with healthy dose of Salary, and move JH to off guard. Let's see if we can get her shot going. But that means Marta goes to the bench, which is OK by me, but appears not to be OK with KJH. I want Marta to play alot but think she might actually do better coming off bench.
 
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glv98 said:
I feel like she's (Walker) played better. She was 1-9 shooting and had 3 t.o.s. She did, however, have 5 assists, 4 rebounds, and 3 steals in 19 mins which isn't bad.

I wouldn't be opposed to starting JW at PG, with healthy dose of Salary, and move JH to off guard. Let's see if we can get her shot going. But that means Marta goes to the bench, which is OK by me, but appears not to be OK with KJH. I want Marta to play alot but think she might actually do better coming off bench.
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Agree
and I am fast becoming a Salary fan
 
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Coach Jumper said:
Agree
and I am fast becoming a Salary fan
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Lol the Salary fan club is growing by leaps and bounds. I'm afraid its because she's the one not currently playing, at least as much. But here's hoping she is the gem that's been hiding.

So I'm curious, are you now in favor of less time at PG for JH? Maybe moving her to 2 semi-permanently as situation allows? Because that would be a change for you. Nothing wrong w changing your mind, I just wondered. I think we both want JH to be the best player she can be.
 
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glv98 said:
Lol the Salary fan club is growing by leaps and bounds. I'm afraid its because she's the one not currently playing, at least as much. But here's hoping she is the gem that's been hiding.

So I'm curious, are you now in favor of less time at PG for JH? Maybe moving her to 2 semi-permanently as situation allows? Because that would be a change for you. Nothing wrong w changing your mind, I just wondered. I think we both want JH to be the best player she can be.
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I am in favor of someone that staff figuring out what the problem is...Jordan is still Jordan.
There is more to this than diminishing offensive output.
A lot more
 
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VolFuture2k22 said:
This wouldn’t have been a game if Uconn hit their free throws. Turnovers were unfortunate but most were forced. And honestly 14 isn’t bad
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The FT disparity is becoming a recurrent issue. Teams drive on the LVS and they get fouls. So, the team needs to work on defending without fouling as much (and that is tough because often Refs are calling fouls whenever there is a modicum of contact between the smaller player and a LV).
 
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glv98 said:
Over the top. We don't know at all she didn't address the need. In fact, it defies logic to think she didn't. She got what she could get. I still haven't given up that we could patch together just enough PG play btw JH, JW and Salary to get by. Not ideal, but what we have. Certainly we need the perfect coach-on- the-floor PG who can also shoot 3s. Who doesn't?

That said, I'm curious about a comment surrounding Massengill's departure. It was said player and coach did not agree on vision of the PG position or something like that. I always wondered what that meant.
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In hindsight, if Kellie made one mistake, is sticking too long with Jordan who just was not on last night. It is tough because you don't want to pull a key (and young) player early and wreck her confidence. But there was a stretch, where Jordan committed a TO which led to a bucket; too a 3 early in the clock, missed and then did not work on defense because (it appeared) she was frustrated) and gave up a wide open 3 for Uconn; and then she turned the all over again for a transition Uconn score. That was 7 point swing in less than a minute.

I am not trying to put the loss on Jordan but this was a game where the more experienced Walker was just handling the pressure better.
 
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madtownvol said:
The FT disparity is becoming a recurrent issue. Teams drive on the LVS and they get fouls. So, the team needs to work on defending without fouling as much (and that is tough because often Refs are calling fouls whenever there is a modicum of contact between the smaller player and a LV).
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We get treated like guests in our own house,,might be time to help the stripes understand that this is a concern
 
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madtownvol said:
In hindsight, if Kellie made one mistake, is sticking too long with Jordan who just was not on last night. It is tough because you don't want to pull a key (and young) player early and wreck her confidence. But there was a stretch, where Jordan committed a TO which led to a bucket; too a 3 early in the clock, missed and then did not work on defense because (it appeared) she was frustrated) and gave up a wide open 3 for Uconn; and then she turned the all over again for a transition Uconn score. That was 7 point swing in less than a minute.

I am not trying to put the loss on Jordan but this was a game where the more experienced Walker was just handling the pressure better.
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Jordan's head was not in the game on the level it should have been, I saw that and own it...the why is what I want to get to....AND WILL
 
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