Lady Vols - Turnovers

[Spook1]

The Lady Vols had 21 turnovers for the game with UConn with Jackson, Walker and Horston having 16 turnovers. There was also too many shorts from under the basket where the ball did not even hit the rim. You do not win games with those kind of figures.

 

[cwbytruckers]

With NIL cant they just buy a new team?

 

[Special Ed]

You shouldn't be watching their figures.

 

[Spook1]

With NIL cant they just buy a new team?[/QUOTE

Remember when Pat Summit went to the Junior College ranks and picked up two players. Then she won two national championships with them.

 

[Spook1]

You shouldn't be watching their figures.

Why not it cost them a chance to possibly win the game. There were other instances when shots did not even hit the rim too....just plain sloppy playig.

 

[MadMaxSC]

The Lady Vols haven't even been competitive in games against ranked opponents this year. Following the LSU game next week, the LV will be just another .500 team. I just don't believe Harper can get the job done. The AD whiffed on this hiring, when they may have been able to have gotten Kara Lawson.

 

[DonDiego]

The Lady Vols haven't even been competitive in games against ranked opponents this year. Following the LSU game next week, the LV will be just another .500 team. I just don't believe Harper can get the job done. The AD whiffed on this hiring, when they may have been able to have gotten Kara Lawson.

Maybe you're right, but Duke lost to Uconn by 28 points, I think, and their non-conference schedule was pretty light. Kelli's biggest problem was this ridiculous schedule. It's OK to have a few cream puffs thrown in there to help you out. I suspect our record would look a little better with Duke's schedule.

 

[Big Orange Rob]

Another year, same problems. Turnovers, poor shooting, sloppy play, no decisive offense, slow, etc. Hopefully we will eventually get a coach that turn this thing around. It's hard to comprehend how far we have fallen.

 

[savannahfan]

The Lady Vols had 21 turnovers for the game with UConn with Jackson, Walker and Horston having 16 turnovers. There was also too many shorts from under the basket where the ball did not even hit the rim. You do not win games with those kind of figures.

NO - - this among other things.
Can't hit a bull in the posterior with a bass fiddle with any consistency.
We seem to recruit for rebounding and defense NOT shooting ability. Shooting is mostly a natural talent that can be helped with some technique pointers. You can teach a shooter defense and rebounding. But not a rebounder and defender how to shoot.
We just don't seem to be able to find and recruit a point guard any taller than a middle schooler.
You can't teach quickness nor speed which we have for some years been a little lacking overall.
Against UConn - we were for a big part playing less than starters AND STILL LOOKED LIKE ROOKIES for the majority of the game. Sorry to be so critical, but I just wonder why our recruiters won't or can't recruit players who can compete with the elite programs or for that matter top 10-15 teams. I wonder who that has control over the Lady Vols program is beginning to get restless with the seemingly lack of progress back to the elite level we crave.

 

[Rocky Top T]

If we play Them 20 more times they win them all! They have 4 players out and still much better than us!!!

 

[Amb3096]

Maybe you're right, but Duke lost to Uconn by 28 points, I think, and their non-conference schedule was pretty light. Kelli's biggest problem was this ridiculous schedule. It's OK to have a few cream puffs thrown in there to help you out. I suspect our record would look a little better with Duke's schedule.

They had Fudd and Ducharme for the Duke game (but were missing Juhasz). They were a much stronger team then compared to the one that played last night.

 

[Amb3096]

Sorry to be so critical, but I just wonder why our recruiters won't or can't recruit players who can compete with the elite programs or for that matter top 10-15 teams. I wonder who that has control over the Lady Vols program is beginning to get restless with the seemingly lack of progress back to the elite level we crave.

They did, but all those players elected to go elsewhere. Or if you believe the word on this board, Kellie decided that they weren't the right "fit" (sounds a bit like, "You can't break up with me...I break up with you FIRST!!!!")

 

[LadyVol1908]

NO - - this among other things.
Can't hit a bull in the posterior with a bass fiddle with any consistency.
We seem to recruit for rebounding and defense NOT shooting ability. Shooting is mostly a natural talent that can be helped with some technique pointers. You can teach a shooter defense and rebounding. But not a rebounder and defender how to shoot.
We just don't seem to be able to find and recruit a point guard any taller than a middle schooler.
You can't teach quickness nor speed which we have for some years been a little lacking overall.
Against UConn - we were for a big part playing less than starters AND STILL LOOKED LIKE ROOKIES for the majority of the game. Sorry to be so critical, but I just wonder why our recruiters won't or can't recruit players who can compete with the elite programs or for that matter top 10-15 teams. I wonder who that has control over the Lady Vols program is beginning to get restless with the seemingly lack of progress back to the elite level we crave.

We’re recruiting them, they’re just not coming!

 

[savannahfan]

They did, but all those players elected to go elsewhere. Or if you believe the word on this board, Kellie decided that they weren't the right "fit" (sounds a bit like, "You can't break up with me...I break up with you FIRST!!!!")

Then herein lies the problem - recruiting short comings? - this falls to the "captian" Kellie - just remember she answers to someone- - just saying.

 

[savannahfan]

We’re recruiting them, they’re just not coming!

The not very well!! I refer you to my reply to the post byAmb3096. (Above)

 

[th2421]

The Lady Vols haven't even been competitive in games against ranked opponents this year. Following the LSU game next week, the LV will be just another .500 team. I just don't believe Harper can get the job done. The AD whiffed on this hiring, when they may have been able to have gotten Kara Lawson.

Not competitive? Here's how we've done against ranked teams...

at Ohio State: 75-87 (we were up 41-33 at halftime)
vs. Indiana (w/out Horston): 67-79
vs. UCLA: 63-80
vs. Gonzaga: 72-73 (we were up 36-30 at halftime)
vs. Colorado (now ranked): 69-51
vs. Virginia Tech (w/out Jackson): 56-59
at Stanford: 70-77 (we were up 5 going into the 4th)
vs. UConn: 67-84 (36-40 at halftime)

We've struggled to close out games but I'd hardly call that uncompetitive. And even we if lose at LSU, we'd be 16-8. How is that .500?

 

[RAVOL]

I understand the complete frustration from Lady Vols fans. The top teams this year are overall more gifted offensively. I love Tess and Walker they give there all but neither would get more than token minutes with Top teams. Last night was a complete mismatch of our starting guards and Edward's dominated as well. Jillian was best inside player last night hopefully she continues to progress and build off play. Even with uconn down two great offensive players they were still much more gifted than us. To get back to the top it's starts with ELITE players. Puckett Darby Walker Franklin Striplin have talent and our good enough for us to be top 25 but they are not Elite so competing for Championship requires this. I will root for my team and hope they can put it all together Sunday and surprise Lsu. Go Lady Vols. In CHRIST Alone.

 

[movinonup]

Not competitive? Here's how we've done against ranked teams...

at Ohio State: 75-87 (we were up 41-33 at halftime)
vs. Indiana (w/out Horston): 67-79
vs. UCLA: 63-80
vs. Gonzaga: 72-73 (we were up 36-30 at halftime)
vs. Colorado (now ranked): 69-51
vs. Virginia Tech (w/out Jackson): 56-59
at Stanford: 70-77 (we were up 5 going into the 4th)
vs. UConn: 67-84 (36-40 at halftime)

We've struggled to close out games but I'd hardly call that uncompetitive. And even we if lose at LSU, we'd be 16-8. How is that .500?

HOW DARE YOU ?????? Come on this board with facts and intelligence. EVERY post should be based on emotion and ignorance. (I knew I should have just stayed off today)

 

[MadMaxSC]

Not competitive? Here's how we've done against ranked teams...

at Ohio State: 75-87 (we were up 41-33 at halftime)
vs. Indiana (w/out Horston): 67-79
vs. UCLA: 63-80
vs. Gonzaga: 72-73 (we were up 36-30 at halftime)
vs. Colorado (now ranked): 69-51
vs. Virginia Tech (w/out Jackson): 56-59
at Stanford: 70-77 (we were up 5 going into the 4th)
vs. UConn: 67-84 (36-40 at halftime)

We've struggled to close out games but I'd hardly call that uncompetitive. And even we if lose at LSU, we'd be 16-8. How is that .500?

The 16-8 is deceiving because the wins have come against lesser competition. I say .500 because I don't count the wins against lesser teams. If you can't win against quality competition, you can advance in the Big Dance (IF you get invited). Charlie Creme was generous by putting the LV on the 7 line, before last night's debacale, at home against a depleted UCONN team. I am an avid LV fan but this team is mediocre, at best. I still contend that KH is NOT the right Coach and never will be.

 

[th2421]

The 16-8 is deceiving because the wins have come against lesser competition. I say .500 because I don't count the wins against lesser teams. If you can't win against quality competition, you can advance in the Big Dance (IF you get invited). Charlie Creme was generous by putting the LV on the 7 line, before last night's debacale, at home against a depleted UCONN team. I am an avid LV fan but this team is mediocre, at best. I still contend that KH is NOT the right Coach and never will be.

Ok…under this logic, what’s LSU’s record? 0-0? Maybe 2-0 if you would consider Arkansas quality competition?

The play has more or less improved each year under KJH, not just with the eye test, but the numbers show it. Per Her Hoop Stats, our offensive rating ranking in each of Kellie’s years here has gone from 61st, 33rd, 43rd, to 15th this year. Our defensive rating ranking has gone from 31st, 19th, 10th, to 17th this year. The main difference this year is just the brutal schedule. You can question whether or not KJH can bring this program back to the promised land of consistently competing for Final Fours (I’m unsure, too), but it’s clear things are heck of a lot better than they were the last few years with HW, and we’re certainly not mediocre.

 

[RAVOL]

The 16-8 is deceiving because the wins have come against lesser competition. I say .500 because I don't count the wins against lesser teams. If you can't win against quality competition, you can advance in the Big Dance (IF you get invited). Charlie Creme was generous by putting the LV on the 7 line, before last night's debacale, at home against a depleted UCONN team. I am an avid LV fan but this team is mediocre, at best. I still contend that KH is NOT the right Coach and never will be.

I disagree with you completely. This team would beat today majority of the teams in top 25. We are just way behind top 5 in country. Which means there are some elite teams which champion will come from then a group of teams Tn is in this year and then it from top 25 on it rolls down hill fast. Coach has put her recruiting of such elite talent years ahead and will play portal game for a few years it has definitely worked for Lsu and even Uconn you can rebuild quickly if done correctly. In CHRIST Alone

 

[volbabyvol]

Not competitive? Here's how we've done against ranked teams...

at Ohio State: 75-87 (we were up 41-33 at halftime)
vs. Indiana (w/out Horston): 67-79
vs. UCLA: 63-80
vs. Gonzaga: 72-73 (we were up 36-30 at halftime)
vs. Colorado (now ranked): 69-51
vs. Virginia Tech (w/out Jackson): 56-59
at Stanford: 70-77 (we were up 5 going into the 4th)
vs. UConn: 67-84 (36-40 at halftime)

We've struggled to close out games but I'd hardly call that uncompetitive. And even we if lose at LSU, we'd be 16-8. How is that .500?

Yes the record is worse against ranked opponents, which you have to beat if you want to go far. That's a reflection of the players and coaches. Uconn had 6 players all night

 

[volfanstuckinga]

When we made this hire I was very open about wanting Kara Lawson.....but many on this board told me "she had no experience". Well Duke is 18-2 with that inexperienced coach.....and we aren't even ranked. When/if this coaching tenure ends.....bring me Kara. And she would come back home to build this program back to elite levels

 

[SN-A-C Orange]

The 16-8 is deceiving because the wins have come against lesser competition. I say .500 because I don't count the wins against lesser teams. If you can't win against quality competition, you can advance in the Big Dance (IF you get invited). Charlie Creme was generous by putting the LV on the 7 line, before last night's debacale, at home against a depleted UCONN team. I am an avid LV fan but this team is mediocre, at best. I still contend that KH is NOT the right Coach and never will be.

I am not saying that this is a great team ... but they are not a .500 team either ... apparently they might be a 5-7 seed.
If I am not mistaken 6 of those loses to ranked teams was on the road.
I admit we were not at UConn's level last night.
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[youcancallmeAl]

When we made this hire I was very open about wanting Kara Lawson.....but many on this board told me "she had no experience". Well Duke is 18-2 with that inexperienced coach.....and we aren't even ranked. When/if this coaching tenure ends.....bring me Kara. And she would come back home to build this program back to elite levels

Tennessee has 2nd toughest schedule so far, Duke has 9th toughest. uconn has toughest.