Lady Vols vs Boise State in the NCAA First Round Tournament

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#183
the degree of suck was hard to watch. If we get blew out by Pitt, would that be enough to get a coach that can improve the talent we bring in?
 
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roddo518 said:
the degree of suck was hard to watch. If we get blew out by Pitt, would that be enough to get a coach that can improve the talent we bring in?
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Kentucky losing to Cincinnati late in first half with "all that talent". Can we get Calapari after they fire him ? (Using your same logic - or lack of it).
 
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I really like playing these first games badly if we win because then the team will focus for the better teams. A couple fairly close games want hurt this team they need to get their focus.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I really like playing these first games badly if we win because then the team will focus for the better teams. A couple fairly close games want hurt this team they need to get their focus.
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Good point.
I never thought of it that way, but I hope you're right.
 
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What a disappointing performance. The Vols will not beat a #1 seed playing like that. Thank goodness the refs were generous with the whistles. Those free throws saved the day.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I really like playing these first games badly if we win because then the team will focus for the better teams. A couple fairly close games want hurt this team they need to get their focus.
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it has seem if there playing really well this year and hit some time off,it takes em a while to get back into the groove
 
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Some teams play the first game badly and rebound and play well. Some teams continue to play badly. Hopefully, we get better. I thought Boise played pretty well. They were hitting some difficult shots and sticking around. I thought we played below average. We missed a lot of bunnies. We got complacent when we should have put the game away: Burdick threw the ball away in a 2 on 1 break, Ariel had a lazy pass that got picked off, and just some very spotty play. I also thought the officiating was awful and not in our favor.

Hopefully it was just a let down from the hype of the SEC tournament and getting a decent bracket draw. Pitt probably won't be any easier and the prospect of playing Oregon State in Spokane won't be any easier either as Oregon State fans have a 6 hour drive compared to a 34 hour drive for Knoxville fans.
 
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Hoya Saxa said:
What a disappointing performance. The Vols will not beat a #1 seed playing like that. Thank goodness the refs were generous with the whistles. Those free throws saved the day.
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I'm not worried about a 1 seed, just win the next game and worry about that later :)
 
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movinonup said:
Kentucky losing to Cincinnati late in first half with "all that talent". Can we get Calapari after they fire him ? (Using your same logic - or lack of it).
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Your reading and understanding( or lack of it) of what was typed is typical of the Holly lovers. We take more talent and do less with it than any other program in the country. Our 5 star players leave as 3 or 2 star players. Take this game: If it had been at a neutral site, we more than likely lose. A fifteen seed shot a 3 pointer to get within 2 points with about 2:30 left. We had double digit missed layups, multiple poor decisions, multiple asinine passes, and horrible fouls. I would be literally shocked if we get past the sweet sixteen. Get your injury excuses ready and how the sweet sixteen is still a good season, etc.
 
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clkou said:
Some teams play the first game badly and rebound and play well. Some teams continue to play badly. Hopefully, we get better. I thought Boise played pretty well. They were hitting some difficult shots and sticking around. I thought we played below average. We missed a lot of bunnies. We got complacent when we should have put the game away: Burdick threw the ball away in a 2 on 1 break, Ariel had a lazy pass that got picked off, and just some very spotty play. I also thought the officiating was awful and not in our favor.

Hopefully it was just a let down from the hype of the SEC tournament and getting a decent bracket draw. Pitt probably won't be any easier and the prospect of playing Oregon State in Spokane won't be any easier either as Oregon State fans have a 6 hour drive compared to a 34 hour drive for Knoxville fans.
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I'm not expecting the officiating to get any better as the Tournament goes along,all i would like to see is consistency from them,that is more important than being good,as far as officiating goes
 
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roddo518 said:
Your reading and understanding( or lack of it) of what was typed is typical of the Holly lovers. We take more talent and do less with it than any other program in the country. Our 5 star players leave as 3 or 2 star players. Take this game: If it had been at a neutral site, we more than likely lose. A fifteen seed shot a 3 pointer to get within 2 points with about 2:30 left. We had double digit missed layups, multiple poor decisions, multiple asinine passes, and horrible fouls. I would be literally shocked if we get past the sweet sixteen. Get your injury excuses ready and how the sweet sixteen is still a good season, etc.
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so you think there no injury issues during the Tournament ?

and yes the sweet 16 is good
 
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roddo518 said:
Your reading and understanding( or lack of it) of what was typed is typical of the Holly lovers. We take more talent and do less with it than any other program in the country. Our 5 star players leave as 3 or 2 star players. Take this game: If it had been at a neutral site, we more than likely lose. A fifteen seed shot a 3 pointer to get within 2 points with about 2:30 left. We had double digit missed layups, multiple poor decisions, multiple asinine passes, and horrible fouls. I would be literally shocked if we get past the sweet sixteen. Get your injury excuses ready and how the sweet sixteen is still a good season, etc.
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Oh, for crying out loud. We know you have a problem with Holly. No one cares. You're being redundant. Just shut the hell up already.
 
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They had the most disappointing performances of this game. I feel like Nared can be a truly great offensive player, but she looks timid sometimes and just cannot finish a lot of the times. Good defense from her though.
Burdick-- I don't know what the hell was wrong with her this game. She had some good assists and played alright on defense, but her shots didn't fall and she had some stupid charges. She didn't look to score at all, and with her offensive abilities, that's just the wrong decision.
Graves had a great game. But realistically she won't be able to dominate like that down low against better teams. Burdick HAS to look to score with her midrange and three point shot.
Ariel Massengale--appears to be emerging from her slump. Not a wonderful shooting percentage, but she actually attacked the basket and shot the three ball fearlessly. She has a beautiful shot; I'll miss seeing her shoot in TBA.
Middleton: Playing some better defense and looks a little quicker. Had some typical turnovers. Looks timid sometimes in general. Hopefully will improve a lot during the offseason.
Graves: Great game. Continue to work hard!
Reynolds--PLEASE MAKE A LAY UP. As a point guard, you have to finish around the basket! I don't understand why her shot looks so sloppy sometimes. If she cannot become a better offensive player, she'll sit on the bench when Tea Cooper comes to Rocky Top.
I didn't really like the high low offense we ran for the WHOLE game. We look like an elite offensive team when we spread the floor and drive the ball. Wanted to see more of that.
Defense wasn't impressive. Typically let a single guard dominate us with an unreal performance. Have to buckle down with more focus or we have no shot of reaching Tampa.

Only positive I see from this is that hopefully CHW will use this as motivation.
 
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We won although i wasn't too thrilled with the performance i liked what i saw from Graves i'm glad she showed up and came to play. Burdick played like the Burdick of earlier seasons and that's not good, this time of the year will be the worse time for her to disappear she has to show up on Monday. Carter played with energy all game long i liked that. hopefully we see a better team performance on Monday.
 
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governmentmule said:
it is a win,that is all that matters
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Normally I would agree with you, and there is something to be said for the "survive and advance" mantra, however, this game epitomizes a glaring problem(s) with Holly's coaching.

Before I start, let me say that I don't believe that I fall firmly in either camp when it comes to Holly as a head coach. There are a number of things that Holly does well and there are a number of things she could definitely improve on. Her game management is one of those things that needs vast improvement! If memory serves me correctly, the first half "use it, or lose it" timeout went away without being used. When the Lady Vols started playing sloppily in the latter stages of the second half, Holly used exactly one time out! And during the time outs, instead of getting in several of the players' jerseys (Burdick, in particular, comes to mind here) and demanding that they play to their capabilities (a la Pat's response to Abby Conklin during a poor tournament game), it appeared that she was consoling them!

Holly needs to realize two things. One, she is responsible during the game for the strategic use of time outs to settle her own team and to disrupt the flow of the other team, and, two, she is not the shoulder for the players to cry on anymore, she is the disciplinarian who is tasked with motivating and demanding the best of each player and for sitting their butts on the bench if they can't give it or aren't giving it in a particular game!

Just my opinion, but, frankly, I'm getting tired of saying, "I hope the team has gotten their bad game out of their system and will bring the Lady Vol effort in the rest of the tournament games", because, for the past seven or eight years, it seems like we say it every year and every year it has been nothing more than wishful thinking.

Jim
 
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