Last year was Bajakian's worst seasons..

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volinmotenn26 said:
I see you're still butt hurt that ol Fergy is gone.
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My point had nothing to do with Dobbs or Fergy or any of that. The point was that if Dobbs takes over for Worley then Worley failed to win games and move the football. Losing games and not moving the football means the season is bad. I did not intend to stir a QB debate or rile up Dobbs disciples.
 
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thebjd said:
My point had nothing to do with Dobbs or Fergy or any of that. The point was that if Dobbs takes over for Worley then Worley failed to win games and move the football. Losing games and not moving the football means the season is bad. I did not intend to stir a QB debate or rile up Dobbs disciples.
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It's possible we live in a world where Worley could play well,but Dobbs plays better hence making the team better...it's not a hands down doomsday scenario if Dobbs is starting by midseason.
 
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butchna said:
It's possible we live in a world where Worley could play well,but Dobbs plays better hence making the team better...it's not a hands down doomsday scenario if Dobbs is starting by midseason.
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Usually QB changes don't happen if the team is winning and the coach is not named Spurrier.
 
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volsfan125 said:
Another thing that surprised me is that Bajakian offense is not as "hurry up" as I first thought. The first 2 yrs, CMU was 20th and 10th in plays per game then it started dropping off drastically to the 70th to 100+ range from the last yr at CMU to us.
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It is more like what Cut did after returning to UT. Get to the line quickly then play at YOUR chosen tempo. Forces the D to be "ready" and in their stances for longer. Creates pressure.

The obvious flaw in your comparison above is that Jones followed Kelly at his previous two stops. Their systems are somewhat similar as are the players needed to run them. He also took a MAJOR step up in competition. Last year at times it very much looked like they were trying to take a sip of water from a fire hose.

I know folks don't like to hear it... but the staff has to improve along with the team and talent.
 
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butchna said:
It's possible we live in a world where Worley could play well,but Dobbs plays better hence making the team better...it's not a hands down doomsday scenario if Dobbs is starting by midseason.
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Jones replaced Legaux and iirc they weren't losing at the time. He was just playing poorly.

I suspect Worley is going to play well though. IMHO, Dobbs doesn't start this fall unless Dooley gets hurt. If that happens, we can all sit on pins and needles hoping UT doesn't have to go to #3.
 
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sjt18 said:
Jones replaced Legaux and iirc they weren't losing at the time. He was just playing poorly.

I suspect Worley is going to play well though. IMHO, Dobbs doesn't start this fall unless Dooley gets hurt. If that happens, we can all sit on pins and needles hoping UT doesn't have to go to #3.
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Is Dooley going to break his hip again? I don't think it will hurt our qb play if he does.
 
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DC Vol said:
Here's a follow-up for the passing numbers. In 4 years at Cinci, Bajakian had the following statistical output from his TE:

* 2009: 27 rec 364 yards 3 TD - 1 TE was in top 5 in overall rec output

* 2010: 24 rec 197 yards 2 TD - 1 TE was in top 5 in overall rec output

* 2011: 25 rec 333 yards 5 TD - 2 TEs neither were in top 5 but were 7/8 back to back. They took a back-seat as Cinci had Kenbrell Thompkins and Isiah Pead who were both featured prominently.

* 2012: 45 rec 722 yards 8 TD - 1 TE and led the entire team in rec output.

Brendan Downs is the only TE that saw any playing time and only pulled in 12 rec for 72 yards. That's also the worst TE output that Bajakian has ever had outside trying in vain to work in some Freshmen at TE at Central Michigan. I think Wolf-Helm could combine for some 2011 level production.

The disturbing thing I saw while grousing over player stats? JJ Watt played for Butch Jones and crew at Central Michigan. Kudos to Butch Jones for getting a commit from the Brian Kelly scouted JJ Watt. The bad part? A guy who is dominating the NFL as a DE was a mediocre TE for them catching 8 passes in his only year on the team.

A high note for the 2007 Central Mich team? Their #2 WR was a FR named Antonio Brown.
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Watt played at Wisconsin. Did he transfer from there?
 
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PerneVedisUncool said:
Watt played at Wisconsin. Did he transfer from there?
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Couple thoughts on the JJ Watt thing, which I've also noticed before too -

1. I'm not really sure where the disconnect was there other than that Watt was scouted and recruited by Kelly as a TE. Kelly is an awesome evaluator and coach of offensive talent. But he can't coach a defense out of a wet paper bag and his evaluation skills in that area are pretty similar. He's pretty much at the mercy of his DC, sort of like if Jim Chaney became a HC.

2. If I'm not mistaken, CMU was Jones' first stop as a head coach. And 2007 was his first year. He may not have had the time to re-evaluate a prospect at another position that he didn't play in HS and wasn't being recruited for. I'm not making excuses for him, I'm just saying that these things happen to first-year head coaches taking over a program. Plus, and I'm not sure what he weighs now, but Watt may not have been the ideal size at the time.

3. I don't think lack of evaluation at DE is going to be a problem at Tennessee. We're literally moving everyone to DE these days, it seems, if you hadn't noticed. There's only slightly fewer DEs on the roster than there are WRs - and DEs only play two at a time whereas you may have 4 and 5 receivers on the field at once.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
Yeah, Jancek's SEC championship ring is definitely fake and not a real thing at all.
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Jancek was a "co-coordinator" for one year at UGA. He was fired and his D wasn't very good. Hopefully he learned. Hopefully the chemistry between him and Jones makes him better.

But the fact is he has NOT proven he can be a DC at this level... and remember college football is littered with guys who took one promotion beyond their real ability.
 
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sjt18 said:
Jancek was a "co-coordinator" for one year at UGA. He was fired and his D wasn't very good. Hopefully he learned. Hopefully the chemistry between him and Jones makes him better.

But the fact is he has NOT proven he can be a DC at this level... and remember college football is littered with guys who took one promotion beyond their real ability.
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Bill King was on 94.9 in Nashville this morning. He was talking about UT and mentioned that the defensive staff was one of the few areas where CBJ may have made some regrettable hires.

DC: Jancek
DL: Stripling
LB: Thig
Sec.: Martinez

The three position coaches got about as much as they could out of the available personnel last season. So... Who could he have been talking about?
 
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dreVol said:
Bill King was on 94.9 in Nashville this morning. He was talking about UT and mentioned that the defensive staff was one of the few areas where CBJ may have made some regrettable hires.

DC: Jancek
DL: Stripling
LB: Thig
Sec.: Martinez

The three position coaches got about as much as they could out of the available personnel last season. So... Who could he have been talking about?
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After putting it all in perspective, the personnel choices are the biggest mystery. What is their "true" identity when you go from Miller, Hood, McCullers, and Smith to Vereen, Williams, Saulsberry, and Maggitt? One was big but relatively slow then the very next year you go to undersized and fast?

That choice was available to them last fall. Walls or Miller could have easily slid inside and moved Hood out. Both had played DT before. It is a head scratcher.
 
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Something that I noticed last season we lacked were passes of 10-15 yrds.

We would run twice and gain two yards. Throw a pass on third down for an incompletion or a couple of yards. Punt. Repeat.
 
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