Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[DC_Vol]

I think you are correct, which is sad.

I think if the CDC comes out tomorrow and says you can stop wearing masks, all these morons would stop wearing them.

I’m 100% sure of this.

 

[DC_Vol]

Optimistic science or pessimistic science?

We have to go wherever our emotions take us.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I would love for someone with any modicum of an understanding of immunology to present an argument as to why a person who has recovered from CV19 should be wearing a mask. Same goes for a person who has been fully vaccinated.

 

[luthervol]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gold.

Without even realizing it, you just confirmed that the response to this virus has been driven by feelings and agenda, rather than "Science."

Good god you guys are easy.

 

[DC_Vol]

Good god you guys are easy.

I’ve had that reputation since high school.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

California ignores public records request, keeps coronavirus data hidden

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Optimistic science or pessimistic science?

The science continuum

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I would love for someone with any modicum of an understanding of immunology to present an argument as to why a person who has recovered from CV19 should be wearing a mask. Same goes for a person who has been fully vaccinated.

You can get it again also the vaccine doesn’t stop getting infected.

Wait I mean the vaccine works perfectly do you love your grandma or not but also keep wearing your mask so you don’t get the virus you just got vaccinated for I mean I have to go now.

 

[newyorkvol]

California ignores public records request, keeps coronavirus data hidden

In Maine, PCR test information other that +/- result is held from the patient. It’s protected under the state of emergency order by the governor and won’t be available til 3 months after the state of emergency order is lifted.

New studies on COVID-19 testing underscore need for greater transparency in Maine

 

[DC_Vol]

In Maine, PCR test information other that +/- result is held from the patient. It’s protected under the state of emergency order by the governor and won’t be available til 3 months after the state of emergency order is lifted.

New studies on COVID-19 testing underscore need for greater transparency in Maine

Why would they want to hide that info from the patient? Hiding high cycle counts?

 

[newyorkvol]

Why would they want to hide that info from the patient? Hiding high cycle counts?

Mostly. Maine CT limit for positive test is 45. Will not allow patient to know at what cycle their test was positive.

 

[DC_Vol]

Mostly. Maine CT limit for positive test is 45. Will not allow patient to know at what cycle their test was positive.

45???? Hello false positive.

 

[newyorkvol]

I would love for someone with any modicum of an understanding of immunology to present an argument as to why a person who has recovered from CV19 should be wearing a mask. Same goes for a person who has been fully vaccinated.

As best I can tell it’s because studies haven’t been completed on the possibility of asymptomatic spread after vaccination. In the initial studies, there were too few asymptomatic positive patients to actually make a statistical assessment, so those studies will take longer to get adequate power.

At first glance though, it looks like it can reduce asymptomatic spread by at least 2/3’s.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389

Edit:
And currently, it looks like 1/3 cases are asymptomatic. So that would mean after vaccination about a 1/10 chance of asymptomatic if you’re the 1 in 20 that would get it at all after vaccination. So, a 0.5% chance of being an asymptomatic carrier after vaccination if the data holds going forward.

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[UT_VOLS13]

Biden balances optimism and realism about a pandemic Americans are ready to be over - CNNPolitics

@evillawyer

 

[DC_Vol]

Biden balances optimism and realism about a pandemic Americans are ready to be over - CNNPolitics

@evillawyer

Biden has a plan which makes me feel somewhat better. He’s going to take us from 1M vaccines a day under the Trump plan to 7M vaccines per week under his plan. Should be a game changer.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Biden has a plan which makes me feel somewhat better. He’s going to take us from 1M vaccines a day under the Trump plan to 7M vaccines per week under his plan. Should be a game changer.

LOL

 

[newyorkvol]

Biden balances optimism and realism about a pandemic Americans are ready to be over - CNNPolitics

@evillawyer

In the same article is says states have only used 50% of the vaccines provided by the federal government, but 2/3 of Americans polled say the federal government is doing a poor job distributing vaccines.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Biden has a plan which makes me feel somewhat better. He’s going to take us from 1M vaccines a day under the Trump plan to 7M vaccines per week under his plan. Should be a game changer.

Wow 700% increase. Finally some competent leadership.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Wow 700% increase. Finally some competent leadership.

LOL

 

[MG1968]

I would love for someone with any modicum of an understanding of immunology to present an argument as to why a person who has recovered from CV19 should be wearing a mask. Same goes for a person who has been fully vaccinated.

I’m sure @Vol Main has exhaustively researched this very subject and written a detailed analysis which is filed away in his private vault in Zurich. He will provide his findings for just $10K. Otherwise, he will only provide snarky half-truths and ad hominem attacks at anyone daring to disagree.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I’m sure @Vol Main has exhaustively researched this very subject and written a detailed analysis which is filed away in his private vault in Zurich. He will provide his findings for just $10K. Otherwise, he will only provide snarky half-truths and ad hominem attacks at anyone daring to disagree.

That's awfully pessimistic.

Did his research involve one mask or two?

 

[Roustabout]

As best I can tell it’s because studies haven’t been completed on the possibility of asymptomatic spread after vaccination. In the initial studies, there were too few asymptomatic positive patients to actually make a statistical assessment, so those studies will take longer to get adequate power.

At first glance though, it looks like it can reduce asymptomatic spread by at least 2/3’s.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389

Edit:
And currently, it looks like 1/3 cases are asymptomatic. So that would mean after vaccination about a 1/10 chance of asymptomatic if you’re the 1 in 20 that would get it at all after vaccination. So, a 0.5% chance of being an asymptomatic carrier after vaccination if the data holds going forward.

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You didn’t even remotely answer the question he asked.

 

[newyorkvol]

You didn’t even remotely answer the question he asked.

I answered the way I did to factually show that you can’t prove someone vaccinated should wear a mask. In fact, the data so far clearly points to its uselessness in the vaccinated population.

 

[Vol Main]

 

[NorthDallas40]

Good god you guys are easy.