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evillawyer said:
This is how you thoroughly own the libs and all their namby pamby "mask-up and get vaxxed" talk.

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What is the Y-axis there? Deaths per 100k?

So the difference at its greatest is between 3 and 9 deaths?

Maybe I don’t understand the data, but per 100K, that is noise in the statistics. I get you think it looks bad when zoomed in, but in reality the the difference is very little. It certainly doesn’t justify the economic lockdown impacts in the blue states. The impacts masks and lockdowns had was extremely minimal, at best.

If I’m reading this right there is a 0.006% difference the blue state response had when it was worst in red states.
 
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rjd970 said:
What is the Y-axis there? Deaths per 100k?

So the difference at its greatest is between 3 and 9 deaths?

Maybe I don’t understand the data, but per 100K, that is noise in the statistics. I get you think it looks bad when zoomed in, but in reality the the difference is very little. It certainly doesn’t justify the economic lockdown impacts in the blue states. The impacts masks and lockdowns had was extremely minimal, at best.

If I’m reading this right there is a 0.006% difference the blue state response had when it was worst in red states.
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You're reading it and analyzing it exactly right. I wish it would dawn on people that this type of tactic is exactly what turns people off.
 
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rjd970 said:
What is the Y-axis there? Deaths per 100k?

So the difference at its greatest is between 3 and 9 deaths?

Maybe I don’t understand the data, but per 100K, that is noise in the statistics. I get you think it looks bad when zoomed in, but in reality the the difference is very little. It certainly doesn’t justify the economic lockdown impacts in the blue states. The impacts masks and lockdowns had was extremely minimal, at best.

If I’m reading this right there is a 0.006% difference the blue state response had when it was worst in red states.
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Yea, that person went out of their way to make that look like some drastic difference.

I’ve yet to see any stats that make me regret living amongst people that took a more hands off approach to Covid.
 
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evillawyer said:
This is how you thoroughly own the libs and all their namby pamby "mask-up and get vaxxed" talk.

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The southeast is all red. The southeast is the highest concentration of obesity in the country. Obesity is the number one co-morbidity for covid complications. You're seeing red states with higher excess deaths and assuming that means that the deaths are due to non-vaccination and non-masking. Too many unknowns and not enough equations. Indeterminate.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
The southeast is all red. The southeast is the highest concentration of obesity in the country. Obesity is the number one co-morbidity for covid complications. You're seeing red states with higher excess deaths and assuming that means that the deaths are due to non-vaccination and non-masking. Too many unknowns and not enough equations. Indeterminate.
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Was just about to say this. Equalized for obesity, diabetes, and overall health rates and I bet there would be no difference. This would speak more to the need for people to stop eating crap and get more exercise.

Moreover, overlay economic impact to this chart and I bet it paints a very clear picture of a self-inflicted economic gunshot.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
The southeast is all red. The southeast is the highest concentration of obesity in the country. Obesity is the number one co-morbidity for covid complications. You're seeing red states with higher excess deaths and assuming that means that the deaths are due to non-vaccination and non-masking. Too many unknowns and not enough equations. Indeterminate.
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Didn't Biden without hold treatment and vax to red states, and also most SE states have a higher avg age population which we all know is effected by the virus at a higher rate...more left scare BS
 
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GAVol said:
You're reading it and analyzing it exactly right. I wish it would dawn on people that this type of tactic is exactly what turns people off.
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It’s an interesting graphic, but it looks like a classic opinion shaping piece. It’s missing some important context like:

- How was excess death defined?

- What is the source of the data and was it gathered and measured in a consistent way across states and across time?

- Why was the 15% criteria chosen? Is there a significant difference if you cut that off at 10%, for example?

Did all of the states in each grouping enact the same type of lockdown measures? It seems to be the most logical grouping would not be red / blue states, but states that had similar lockdown / masking measures. The timing would also be a factor.

The most egregious error is Axios drew conclusions from this and then try to pass it off as fact. This is not how “the science” works.

If the creator set out to support a predetermined conclusion, this type of evidence is pretty easy to generate by selecting the parameters that produce the most compelling graphic. It’s not the science many of the readers probably believe it to be. It’s just opinion shaping.
 
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DC_Vol said:
It’s an interesting graphic, but it looks like a classic opinion shaping piece. It’s missing some important context like:

- How was excess death defined?

- What is the source of the data and was it gathered and measured in a consistent way across states and across time?

- Why was the 15% criteria chosen? Is there a significant difference if you cut that off at 10%, for example?

Did all of the states in each grouping enact the same type of lockdown measures? It seems to be the most logical grouping would not be red / blue states, but states that had similar lockdown / masking measures. The timing would also be a factor.

The most egregious error is Axios drew conclusions from this and then try to pass it off as fact. This is not how “the science” works.

If the creator set out to support a predetermined conclusion, this type of evidence is pretty easy to generate by selecting the parameters that produce the most compelling graphic. It’s not the science many of the readers probably believe it to be. It’s just opinion shaping.
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Covid killed the null hypothesis
 
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GAVol said:
You're reading it and analyzing it exactly right. I wish it would dawn on people that this type of tactic is exactly what turns people off.
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Observation #1. Graph title says "All Causes", meaning all these deaths on the chart were not due to Covid specifically.

Observation #2. Chart is mis-leading in that it doesn't differentiate in those deaths in red states how many are normal people and how many are libtards.

Observation #3. Someone needs to buy Evil a new set of batteries.
 
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That might seriously be the most piece-of-crap graphic produced for the entire CV pandemic. I love when charts zoom in like 1000% and then state singular hypotheses as explanations for the data.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
That might seriously be the most piece-of-crap graphic produced for the entire CV pandemic. I love when charts zoom in like 1000% and then state singular hypotheses as explanations for the data.
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@rjd970 touched on it earlier…At the greatest difference, the graph shows that 99.991% of people in red states didn’t die from Covid and 99.997% of people in blue states didn’t die from Covid
 
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If you look at the Axios headline blaming this on Red vax resistance then look at Mississippi or Louisiana not only do you have the obesity issues but the bulk of those deaths are among populations that vote Blue but are also vax resistant. For example both Mississippi and Louisiana when you compare the proportion of the population by race to deaths by race you see AAs being above the proportion and Caucasians being below.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Did anyone still care about Covid?
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I still see a few people wearing masks at the grocery store or church. I think to myself bless it, the poor creature is shell shocked at this point. We have 77 active cases in a county of 375k. What’s sad is some if the the kids helping with drop off outside school wearing them.
 
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