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I’ve got a couple of questions and one statement .. Wow that’s a an over the top number for any trial . Ok the questions .. why on earth would anybody pregnant sign up for a damn trial to test a new vaccine ? Why would it take a FOIA. request to get these results released to the public ?

The Vandy women's clinic asked my wife about getting vaccinated every time she went to an appointment while pregnant. Towards the end she started getting pissed off after declining politely so many times. She told the nurse to put it in her file she would not be taking any experimental vaccines and to not ask her about them. They pushed it hard.
 
Another side to this:

Factually inaccurate
: The city of Waterloo, Ontario reported 16 stillbirths as of November 2021, not 86, which was within the average based on previous years. Large-scale scientific studies haven’t observed a higher than expected rate of negative pregnancy outcomes in vaccinated women.

Her claim that “86 babies were born dead between January and July of 2021” in the city of Waterloo, Ontario in Canada, can be traced back to Daniel Nagase, a Canadian family doctor, who claimed that there were 86 stillbirths in Waterloo in late 2021. Nagase went further to assert, without evidence, that all 86 were linked to COVID-19 vaccination. His claim was carried by other outlets known for publishing misinformation and conspiracy theories, like The Gateway Pundit and Trending Politics. Nagase’s claims were debunked by FactCheck.org in November 2021.

Indeed, hospital officials in the city of Waterloo contradicted Nagase’s claim. In a November 2021 City News report, Peter Potts, joint chief of staff at Grand River Hospital and St Mary’s Hospital said that “in reality, 12 had occurred in the last fiscal year between both [Grand River Hospital] and [Cambridge Memorial Hospital].”

Kristin Wadsworth, the chief of obstetrics and gynecology at Cambridge Memorial Hospital, told City News that “This year, we have had 982 deliveries in Cambridge and four still-births. That is a still-birth rate of 0.41 per cent, which is our average.”

Grand River Hospital, St. Mary’s Hospital, and Cambridge Memorial Hospital account for all three of the hospital systems in the city of Waterloo. This means that the number of stillbirths reported in the city as of November 2021 was 16, far below Nagase’s claim of 86, and well within the expected number based on historical trends.

Large-scale studies have found that COVID-19 vaccination doesn’t increase the risk of negative pregnancy outcomes, contrary to claim by Naomi Wolf

This needs further investigation. I'm not taking Naomi Wolf's word as Gospel
 
And why would Pfizer categorize a miscarriage as a "resolved adverse event"? That seems insane. If true, heads should be rolling.

If the article is true , I dont even know what to say about it . I don’t see how a 44% miscarriage rate could be acceptable in any trial , then to not release those numbers is beyond horrific.
 
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I think the thing here is are those results being read properly by Wolf?

I don’t know how they could be read but one way if we aren’t altering stats . X amount of women in study , X amount of miscarriages = result % .
 
Naomi Wolf is a "doctor" of philosophy. She also has a long history of peddling conspiracy theories and false facts. That doesn't mean I'm completely discounting this incident but we're going to need more to go on than this Dr of Philosophy's view
 
Naomi Wolf is a "doctor" of philosophy. She also has a long history of peddling conspiracy theories and false facts. That doesn't mean I'm completely discounting this incident but we're going to need more to go on than this Dr of Philosophy's view

Well, we had a medical doctor peddling his philosophy for 2 plus years and running. Maybe everyone should stay in their lane.
 
Naomi Wolf is a "doctor" of philosophy. She also has a long history of peddling conspiracy theories and false facts. That doesn't mean I'm completely discounting this incident but we're going to need more to go on than this Dr of Philosophy's view
She used numbers from someone without verifying the data. The actual hospitals dispute the numbers and it's doubtful she had any real source. Of course that doesn't matter once the myth has been released and she knows it
 
IDGAF what Fauci had to say then or now. I'm talking about the people screeching and guilt tripping others for over a year to get a vaccine that doesn't even work. Ya know the people who were acting like they were morally superior because they got a shot. There were a lot of them I encountered in the real world and on this board.
Been there too. Laughed out loud at MAD, EL and LG. I actually have a friend at work that said the vax was from Satan. I don't get wound up about it. I defended someone that a year ago was saying the same thing. However, she got jumped for simply saying that she got vaxed and was happy in the most recent conflict. My point was I understand feelerz got hurt by vaxers telling you that you were going on a vent, but at the same time, does that justify jumping on someone with both feet now since the prevailing OPINION is that the vax doesn't even work for the current strains? My opine is no, just let it go and do your thing.
 
I’ve got a couple of questions and one statement .. Wow that’s a an over the top number for any trial . Ok the questions .. why on earth would anybody pregnant sign up for a damn trial to test a new vaccine ? Why would it take a FOIA. request to get these results released to the public ?
One empirical point. My DIL is a PA and took the vaccine while pregnant. She and baby both are fine and she had no trouble. I am worried what could happen in the coming years though.
 
Been there too. Laughed out loud at MAD, EL and LG. I actually have a friend at work that said the vax was from Satan. I don't get wound up about it. I defended someone that a year ago was saying the same thing. However, she got jumped for simply saying that she got vaxed and was happy in the most recent conflict. My point was I understand feelerz got hurt by vaxers telling you that you were going on a vent, but at the same time, does that justify jumping on someone with both feet now since the prevailing OPINION is that the vax doesn't even work for the current strains? My opine is no, just let it go and do your thing.

My feelerz were never hurt, because I knew I was right. I haven't jumped on her at all, but no I'm not letting it go. It wasn't feelerz that almost got my wife fired for not getting an experimental vaccine while pregnant. It wasn't feelerz that destroyed my uncle's business. It was self-righteous ass-holes.
 
My feelerz were never hurt, because I knew I was right. I haven't jumped on her at all, but no I'm not letting it go. It wasn't feelerz that almost got my wife fired for not getting an experimental vaccine while pregnant. It wasn't feelerz that destroyed my uncle's business. It was self-righteous ass-holes.
I have to agree. I had to get jabbed due to family reasons at the time and also work. But I wasn't an anti-vaxxer nor was I a rabid go get the shot guy either. I got one boost but I'm done. Haven't had heart issues, had covid for what I am convinced was the second time and regained full taste and smell in about 6 weeks. Did it help me? Maybe, I don't know. One thing I did know, I was going to get it sooner or later.

Caught it from some ******* Boilermaker fan at the MCB! :p:p
 
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This is everyone's point thought. Instead of backing up your beliefs you've been dodging simple questions that would confirm or deny them.
There is nothing to back up over my statement, I am vaccinated and I have not had covid or missed work. There is nothing to back up. I lived it, I did it and now you
all can live with it or get over it......move on.
 

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