Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[allvol123]

Because the Chinese are not providing the whole truth. The death/infected numbers are most likely way higher than what is being reported.

Enough private citizens from around the world do business with China as well as other governments. They should know enough, yet economic markets do not seem to be reacting.

 

[LouderVol]

Replace elementary school with day care center, or grocery store.
Assume they have all of the symptoms.
Do you believe that people should be forcibly quarantined, like on the cruise ship, or the plane from China?

If a private company wants to ban them, do it. The government should not be telling which people can or can not walk down the street. Do we do this for other communicable diseases? If they are willing to make it a full time across the board policy I am less against this.

Are they going to come after people with the flu anytime they MIGHT come across an at risk population?

What happens when the government doesnt catch everyone? That's not a a what if, thata a "when".

How much are you going to forgive the government doing?

Maybe they are sick and on their way to the hospital? Can they not go care for sick relatives or friends? Do the sick not have the right to be fed and get food? Or should we just go ahead and board up their buildings comrade luther? Right them off for the greater good.

Btw, and slightly off topic, have you seen the movie Hot Fuzz?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Enough private citizens from around the world do business with China as well as other governments. They should know enough, yet economic markets do not seem to be reacting.

Those business deals are probably being done VIA skype or conference calls right now.

 

[Burhead]

There is a weird dynamic here. How outrageous the stories and actions are out of China. Versus the relative calm be displayed by the rest of the world. Does not seem to add up.

As far as the rest of the world we're still in the early days of this. China had a head start on all of this. Singapore may be a country to watch, they now have more domestic cases with non-Chinese links than imported ones suggesting that the virus now within the community.

 

[allvol123]

Those business deals are probably being done VIA skype or conference calls right now.

That is not what I mean. Tens of thousands of, probably more, do business in China, on site. From private business to government personnel. There are some that have contacts with legit info. If it is as bad as some suggest, seems markets would already be tanking.

 

[allvol123]

As far as the rest of the world we're still in the early days of this. China had a head start on all of this. Singapore may be a country to watch, they now have more domestic cases with non-Chinese links than imported ones suggesting that the virus now within the community.

If it is as bad as some of the rumors suggest, world markets will tank.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

That is not what I mean. Tens of thousands of, probably more, do business in China, on site. From private business to government personnel. There are some that have contacts with legit info. If it is as bad as some suggest, seems markets would already be tanking.

Fair point and market will be closely watched for sure. I am simply basing my opinion on the brutal footage that has been released. Apocalyptic sh!t is going down in WUHAN. It seems the death toll should be higher with a virus so deadly combined with a population that high. I do not trust the numbers.

 

[allvol123]

The numbers are being supplied by the chinese equivalent of Iowa Dems.

 

[luthervol]

If a private company wants to ban them, do it. The government should not be telling which people can or can not walk down the street. Do we do this for other communicable diseases? If they are willing to make it a full time across the board policy I am less against this.

Are they going to come after people with the flu anytime they MIGHT come across an at risk population?

What happens when the government doesnt catch everyone? That's not a a what if, thata a "when".

How much are you going to forgive the government doing?

Maybe they are sick and on their way to the hospital? Can they not go care for sick relatives or friends? Do the sick not have the right to be fed and get food? Or should we just go ahead and board up their buildings comrade luther? Right them off for the greater good.

Btw, and slightly off topic, have you seen the movie Hot Fuzz?

I have not seen the movie.
I can answer all of your questions with "society ultimately decides."

Did not quite get the answers to mine though.
Was it appropriate for the US to quarantined for 14 days everyone who flew in on the plane from China? yes, no, maybe
Is it appropriate for the people on the cruise ship off of the coast of Japan to be confined in quarantine? yes, no, maybe

 

[FLVOL69]

I have not seen the movie.
I can answer all of your questions with "society ultimately decides."

Did not quite get the answers to mine though.
Was it appropriate for the US to quarantined for 14 days everyone who flew in on the plane from China? yes, no, maybe
Is it appropriate for the people on the cruise ship off of the coast of Japan to be confined in quarantine? yes, no, maybe

You sound like Biden attempting to answer a question

 

[luthervol]

You sound like Biden attempting to answer a question

Go back to his post and count the question marks.

 

[VolStrom]

Go back to his post and count the question marks.

He said yes, no, maybe... your question was answered. lol

 

[luthervol]

He said yes, no, maybe... your question was answered. lol

Maybe you can answer for him.
There's an obvious conclusion that many desperately try to avoid.

 

[Burhead]

2,097 new cases in Hubei province and 103 deaths (the most in a single day). 1,013 have now died during the outbreak so far. Those in critical condition increased from 5,505 to 6,344.

 

[Burhead]

These are without the national numbers that come out soon.

 

[BigOrangeAl 1979]

This is only going to get worse could be Black Death level bad with 15 million dead.

 

[LouderVol]

I have not seen the movie.
I can answer all of your questions with "society ultimately decides."

Did not quite get the answers to mine though.
Was it appropriate for the US to quarantined for 14 days everyone who flew in on the plane from China? yes, no, maybe
Is it appropriate for the people on the cruise ship off of the coast of Japan to be confined in quarantine? yes, no, maybe

I have no problem with those engaging in an elective, private, business being quarantined. Especially if there are confirmed cases on board. But if no one had checked in on the boat as sick not as much.

Walking down a street is completely different.

 

[LouderVol]

This is only going to get worse could be Black Death level bad with 15 million dead.

Or communism in China levels of death. 50+ million. We dont quarantine that, unfortunately.

 

[luthervol]

I have no problem with those engaging in an elective, private, business being quarantined. Especially if there are confirmed cases on board. But if no one had checked in on the boat as sick not as much.

Walking down a street is completely different.

So passengers on a plane or a cruise ship are different than people in a hotel or apartment building?

 

[LouderVol]

So passengers on a plane or a cruise ship are different than people in a hotel or apartment building?

Hotel, no. Apartment yes.

You can use an apt address for the government. Not so much for a hotel.

Also I am against boarding up anyone. But that's just me. You do the greater good to your acceptable level of purity.

 

[luthervol]

Hotel, no. Apartment yes.

You can use an apt address for the government. Not so much for a hotel.

Also I am against boarding up anyone. But that's just me. You do the greater good to your acceptable level of purity.

Just trying to find the line.
So there is a confirmed case in a hotel or on a plane or ship, it's okay to quarantine those people?

 

[golfballs]

wow. I don’t know what is more amazing - the infrastructure of that apartment building, or how vigorous this virus is at spreading.

We all get the flu through our buildings pipes. No big deal

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[bluegrasser]

We all get the flu through our buildings pipes. No big deal

Well, yes of course. If by “flu” you mean “scientifically engineered bat/pangolin/HIV bioweapon designed to survive all existing treatments and also to infiltrate and permeate close quarters living conditions for maximum infection rates.”
Then yes, happens all the time.

 

[FLVOL69]

Well, yes of course. If by “flu” you mean “scientifically engineered bat/pangolin/HIV bioweapon designed to survive all existing treatments and also to infiltrate and permeate close quarters living conditions for maximum infection rates.”
Then yes, happens all the time.

I’ve heard similar accusations have you been able to substantiate any of said claims?