Les Miles' decision making in the closing minutes

#26
#26
oklavol said:
"Ballsy Les Miles" - Mandel CNNSI

I think that pretty much sums it up.
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did mandel really call him ballsy? I was calling him ballsy saturday night.. I want royalties! i even texted it to friends
 
#27
#27
"You play to win the game" miles has some huge gonads. I love the fact he gambled against meyer and they kept showing that smug face of urby's, great game might catch the replay.
 
#28
#28
you cant really call it a terrible decision since it worked can you? i mean i couldnt believe he was going for it, but i wasnt sure LSU's kicker could kick the broad side of a barn there for a while....he was rattled. Anyway..
 
#29
#29
I'd say it was a nutty move that he got away with. The fact that his kicker looked bad is the only thing that makes me think he isn't insane.
 
#30
#30
His kicker had not missed an extra point yet. That is basically what he was kicking. Like I said, if it would have been a 30+ yard FG then I would not have much of a problem with the decision. But, to not have confidence in your kicker to make an extra point is crazy. The fact that a decision works does not make it a good decision. It just means it worked. All that confidence in Hester to get the first down, yet he barely, and I mean barely, got it. He put the game in the hands of a spot by the ref. Spots can easily be off by a foot or so. If the refs spot on that play was off by less than a foot and they don't make it. Why would he not think he could stop UF's passing game in a 2:00 drill?
 
#32
#32
volfanbill said:
did mandel really call him ballsy? I was calling him ballsy saturday night.. I want royalties! i even texted it to friends
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yeah it was in his column after the game

"With all the opportunities not to come back, this team kept finding a way," said a proud and undeniably ballsy Les Miles. "I enjoyed the character of this football team. Down the road, that is what will sustain this team."
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SI.com - Writers - Stewart Mandel: LSU survives war with Florida to protect No. 1 ranking - Sunday October 7, 2007 3:14AM
 
#33
#33
therickbol said:
The fact that a decision works does not make it a good decision. It just means it worked.
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I agree. It worked, but if he keeps doing that long term it will probably cost him as many games as it wins.
 
#35
#35
therickbol said:
I have not seen this discussed. If I missed it in another thread then I appologize. LSU wins despite their coach once again. Down by 3, 4th down, chip shot FG for the tie with 2:00 remaining at home...GO FOR IT? I like being aggressive as a coach. I like going for it on 4th and short when its called for. UT's 4th down decision was a great decision. But this decision was in much different circumstances. That might be the worst decision I have seen made by the coach of a major college football team. Even super-aggressive Spurrier would have known to kick the FG there.
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You gotta go for the win.
 
#37
#37
therickbol said:
His kicker had not missed an extra point yet. That is basically what he was kicking. Like I said, if it would have been a 30+ yard FG then I would not have much of a problem with the decision. But, to not have confidence in your kicker to make an extra point is crazy. The fact that a decision works does not make it a good decision. It just means it worked. All that confidence in Hester to get the first down, yet he barely, and I mean barely, got it. He put the game in the hands of a spot by the ref. Spots can easily be off by a foot or so. If the refs spot on that play was off by less than a foot and they don't make it. Why would he not think he could stop UF's passing game in a 2:00 drill?
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Suppose they do stop them in under 2:00. Then they have to stop them again in overtime and would also be faced with making more plays (and tough decisions) in overtime also. If you have an opportunity to take the lead, you have to go for it. Too many coaches try to play it safe an end up losing games when they had a chance at victory.
 
#38
#38
GAVol said:
I agree. It worked, but if he keeps doing that long term it will probably cost him as many games as it wins.
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He may not have to make that many too many more decisions like that this year. That will most likely be the closest someone gets to them late in the 4th quarter.
 
#39
#39
You are at home and ranked 1....you supposedly have the best talent in the nation......go for it!
 
#40
#40
We complain that we don't have a coaching staff with any balls.

Les Miles continually gets dissed as a bone head coach. Put his bone head record since arriving at LSU against ours during that time with our coach who'd have played not to lose.

USC lost to Stanford. If LSU had lost on those calls, it'd have been to UF, and they wouldn't have dropped out of the top 5 or 6, and still would be in the hunt.

Miles sent a message to his team with those calls. To UF. To college football. The team responded and sent the message right back to him.

Miles is a bulldog. A bulldog may not always look intelligent, but you know where it's coming from. We have a pomeranian. I would rather take the field with the bulldog as a coach.
 
#41
#41
GVF said:
We complain that we don't have a coaching staff with any balls.

Les Miles continually gets dissed as a bone head coach. Put his bone head record since arriving at LSU against ours during that time with our coach who'd have played not to lose.

USC lost to Stanford. If LSU had lost on those calls, it'd have been to UF, and they wouldn't have dropped out of the top 5 or 6, and still would be in the hunt.

Miles sent a message to his team with those calls. To UF. To college football. The team responded and sent the message right back to him.

Miles is a bulldog. A bulldog may not always look intelligent, but you know where it's coming from. We have a pomeranian. I would rather take the field with the bulldog as a coach.
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Uhh... this is going to get pounded. Fulmer after this weekend is supposed to be untouchable and free of any criticism. :yes:
 
#42
#42
GVF said:
Miles is a bulldog. A bulldog may not always look intelligent, but you know where it's coming from. We have a pomeranian. I would rather take the field with the bulldog as a coach.
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Your analogy makes me laugh. CPF made the real bulldogs look like pomeranians on Sat.
 
#43
#43
GAVol said:
It's funny how a guy goes from a meathead to brilliance when a few calls turn out right.
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that's what i kept thinking......when he made the challenge, i was thinking what the hell? why does it matter? only 1 TO left etc....then with the 4th downs........good lord, i kept saying to myself...this guy is going to go down as a BIG TIME idiot or a hero.

fortunately for us, it was the latter.

but i think he broke about 14 rules in the Heac Coaching handbook.:eek:lol:
 
#44
#44
I told my wife some of his calls were crazy before seeing the results of each call. He got the results. Ballsy calls.
 
#45
#45
yeah, well Maverick got called out for his inverted G dive with the Mig. Ballsy yes, but was shown to be the wrong thing to do.
 
#46
#46
If even one of those calls does not succeed, they lose. I could not believe going for the TD instead of a chip shot FG down by 10 with about 10 minutes left to play.
 
#47
#47
jakez4ut said:
but i think he broke about 14 rules in the Heac Coaching handbook.:eek:lol:
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The challenge was a dumb move. But every call he made afterwards were definitely not in the handbook.

Not following the handbook is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure SOS, Tubby, and Meyer wouldn't do it. Pete Carroll wouldn't, either.
 
#49
#49
GAVol said:
. . . an epically dumb move. I'm glad it worked, but I still can't believe that they overturned the call based on the replays that I saw.
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Probably based on what the announcers were talking about. They (the people in the replay booth) probably realized that this was a big game with national championship implications. Taking away the last timeout would have affected the outcome of the game far more than spotting the ball 5-7 yards further back.

In other words, the replay guys gave Miles a mulligan.
 
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